Unique? I'm not so sure about that. Idiocy has deep roots and it isnt just Star Citisnt that nourishes it. Just glancing at the crypto MMO salvation projects.
Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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Some people put a lot of time and effort in to detracting Star Citizen, an unhealthy amount, that is also a cult.
I rather describe it as allergic reaction to nonsense.
Yes with our charismatic leader, paywalled tiers for followers, and endless revisionism about when the promised land will arrive, we are exactly like…
Oh wait a minute
Yes with our charismatic leader, paywalled tiers for followers, and endless revisionism about when the promised land will arrive, we are exactly like…
Oh wait a minute
Ixnay on the Derekay.
For me it's all about the elephant in the room, sunk cost fallacy and fallacies.
On a conscious and subconscious level, and whether people like to admit it or not it is a perfectly natural human nature response to any kind of emotional and/or financial investment. We are all guilty of it at one time or another, it's quite natural to know within oneself when something is crap and taking the urine and equally as natural to be offended should - heaven forbid - someone else have the audacity to point that fact out to you. Of course it's not always the case, sometimes you can agree and laugh it off, or agree and be angry or upset about whatever said investment is or was but for whatever reason we just get protective of purchases and investments as soon as we've clicked 'Confirm and Pay' or whatever.
I'm not saying this applies to everyone who backs or has backed Star Citizen, in fact far from it but with increased 'cost' comes increased emotional investment and increased defensiveness. So yeah, with all Star Citizen's bling barges, the pressure to 'keep up with the Jones', (another real thing whether you like it or not), and frankly silly costs for ships etc, (imo), the backers of SC are more invested in general terms than other gamers with the vast majority of other games because their wallets are considerably lighter.
None of this is a problem, perfectly natural human response as I said but the inability to admit it from some is what makes some SC backers 'cult-like' for sure. If any of them are reading this I hate to break it to you but a decade long alpha is taking the urine - there are zero if's or but's about that. The litany of broken promises, outright lies and pathetic smoke and mirrors campaigns need to be held to account and the only ones that can do that is you, the backers. One of the reasons SC is at best stagnant is because Spectrum is far too dominated by the 'done when its done' and 'Roberts is the next coming of Trump' crowd, there is no accountability, it's like frakking North Korea.
SC backers - of which I was once one - pull your finger out of your proverbial backsides and start holding CIG, Roberts and the rest of the clown show to bloody account to a much stronger level than you are now. Because if you don't in another 5-10 years we're still gonna be waiting for that next god patch or it's all gonna be vapourware, either way you are gonna be looking more and more like the clowns yourselves and the cost really will have sunk.
On a conscious and subconscious level, and whether people like to admit it or not it is a perfectly natural human nature response to any kind of emotional and/or financial investment. We are all guilty of it at one time or another, it's quite natural to know within oneself when something is crap and taking the urine and equally as natural to be offended should - heaven forbid - someone else have the audacity to point that fact out to you. Of course it's not always the case, sometimes you can agree and laugh it off, or agree and be angry or upset about whatever said investment is or was but for whatever reason we just get protective of purchases and investments as soon as we've clicked 'Confirm and Pay' or whatever.
I'm not saying this applies to everyone who backs or has backed Star Citizen, in fact far from it but with increased 'cost' comes increased emotional investment and increased defensiveness. So yeah, with all Star Citizen's bling barges, the pressure to 'keep up with the Jones', (another real thing whether you like it or not), and frankly silly costs for ships etc, (imo), the backers of SC are more invested in general terms than other gamers with the vast majority of other games because their wallets are considerably lighter.
None of this is a problem, perfectly natural human response as I said but the inability to admit it from some is what makes some SC backers 'cult-like' for sure. If any of them are reading this I hate to break it to you but a decade long alpha is taking the urine - there are zero if's or but's about that. The litany of broken promises, outright lies and pathetic smoke and mirrors campaigns need to be held to account and the only ones that can do that is you, the backers. One of the reasons SC is at best stagnant is because Spectrum is far too dominated by the 'done when its done' and 'Roberts is the next coming of Trump' crowd, there is no accountability, it's like frakking North Korea.
SC backers - of which I was once one - pull your finger out of your proverbial backsides and start holding CIG, Roberts and the rest of the clown show to bloody account to a much stronger level than you are now. Because if you don't in another 5-10 years we're still gonna be waiting for that next god patch or it's all gonna be vapourware, either way you are gonna be looking more and more like the clowns yourselves and the cost really will have sunk.
Oh wow, apparently Chris and family have already moved to the UK.
It explains some of the recent guff coming out of CIG talking about SQ42.
So, i guess progress on SQ42 is now boned.
It explains some of the recent guff coming out of CIG talking about SQ42.
So, i guess progress on SQ42 is now boned.
Spectrum seems pretty perpetually salty these days to be honest. (And the shimmering insanity of reddit is running at a much lower simmer)
Background sarcasm about delivery is probably at an all time sustained high. If not in pole position by any means.
Ultimately though, none of that salt or sarcasm makes any meaningful difference. They can’t review bomb. They often can’t refund in a way which touches CIG’s bottom line.
As long as the ship sales keep flowing, CIG can keep on going as they have to date…
(The Calders writing them poison pen letters might be a different matter though
)While the ship sale cash keeps rolling in, nothing will change. Backers holding them accountable is a pipe dream. The new TOS took care of that. Only a sudden stop of hands going into pockets will change anything.
Enjoy the ride while it lasts - it is if nothing else somewhat entertaining, if gone very deep into self parody at this point.
Speaking of which, funds looking a little low. But The Con is around the corner to fix that, just after the latest skin selling guff.
Enjoy the ride while it lasts - it is if nothing else somewhat entertaining, if gone very deep into self parody at this point.
Speaking of which, funds looking a little low. But The Con is around the corner to fix that, just after the latest skin selling guff.
Viajero
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Harsh, but true. Accountability is another key difference between Elite and SC and their respective communities by the way. The moment EDO was released, reviews and share price went straight south. Which is forcing FDEV into a long period of fixes.
As for SC... well, we will always have volumetric clouds though.
Viajero
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What is "there" anyways?
Did you just pull a Roberts on me?
Now?
Are you saying it was fine before?
Apologies. Bonederer.
Spectrum seems pretty perpetually salty these days to be honest. (And the shimmering insanity of reddit is running at a much lower simmer)
Background sarcasm about delivery is probably at an all time sustained high. If not in pole position by any means.
Ultimately though, none of that salt or sarcasm makes any meaningful difference. They can’t review bomb. They often can’t refund in a way which touches CIG’s bottom line.
As long as the ship sales keep flowing, CIG can keep on going as they have to date…
(The Calders writing them poison pen letters might be a different matter though
Its just the pre-con blues. Happens every year.
At the con CIG will announce a new ship for sale and promise lots of new stuff coming soon, and the faithful will wet their pants once again, forget everything that has happened this year to date, and memory hole anything bad.
Its the same every year.
Expect a massive boost in funding following the con.
Yes! SC is already the BDSSE! You should buy an Idris or two. And remember, any performance issues or bugs, or you just not enjoying it, its all your fault. You probably didn't install it on a SSD anyway.
Nah the whole last few years feel different to me. Like the relative numbers of absolutely crazy zealots have dropped. And the number of regulars in perpetual grumble mode hold more daily sway (without being shouted down perpetually for their pernicious FUDding)
You can kinda see it in the memes that have bedded in without contest. Chris as meddling boob, feature cuts and rolling delays as the norm, old age as the destination. They’ve always been around, but they’re just part of the furniture now…
Oh yeah that bit ain’t changed
. Kinda what I was saying before. The grumbling doesn’t alter CIG’s trajectory. But a change in the above would (If I had to guess, I’d say they attract enough new whales annually to easily cover the veterans who’ve closed their wallets. And the sentiments of that active whale minority could be distinct from the broader war of words that we see.)
If the freeform griping were to snowball over the years, then maybe that’d impact new guys over time. But it’s not really at that stage.
It’s just not as smothered by ardent BDSSE as it used to be