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What are brownfields?
General / Off-Topic Hunting season starts on Oct 1
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Only paper targets with my Colt King Cobra and Sig 226. Lots of pellet rifle rabbit and squirrel shooting to keep them away from our chickens and garden. My next purchase will be a hunting rifle for mule deer. Unfortunately, it is a "moving target" on what the specs for rifles are permitted in our crazy state.I'm looking hard at the Mossberg Patriot Synthetic.
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I live in an area of western NY where there has been a lot of industrial pollution. Most of it has been cleaned up at this point, but there are still Superfund sites that haven't been completely remediated and plenty of questionable Brownfields. Some of the tributaries of the Niagara river near me are quite contaminated; immediately local fish shouldn't be eaten, and what game exists is questionable enough that I'm not going to eat it even if risks are ostensibly low.
Between places like the Tonawanda Coke Plant, Love Canal, (both within walking distance) and the pipes in this 70 year old house, I'm sure I get plenty enough lead and mercury already.
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I recall Mad Magazine made a lot of jokes about Love Canal when I was a kid.Types of Contaminated Sites | Enforcement | US EPA
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I live in an area of western NY where there has been a lot of industrial pollution. Most of it has been cleaned up at this point, but there are still Superfund sites that haven't been completely remediated and plenty of questionable Brownfields. Some of the tributaries of the Niagara river near me are quite contaminated; immediately local fish shouldn't be eaten, and what game exists is questionable enough that I'm not going to eat it even if risks are ostensibly low.
Between places like the Tonawanda Coke Plant, Love Canal, (both within walking distance) and the pipes in this 70 year old house, I'm sure I get plenty enough lead and mercury already.
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Dude, I almost bought a King Cobra a couple weeks back, but instead I bought the Chiappa 30DS that can be seen in my original photo.
Unfortauntely I haven't been able to shoot it yet because all I can find in .357 are self defense and hunting loads.
Zeroed my 10/22 at 50m today, and bought an over-under 410 on the way home. Ready for squirrels on October 1st
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Lots of people "need" bacon and chicken thighs, but virtually nobody complains about that.
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I know a lot of people don't understand it.
From hunting rifles, to battle rifles, to plinkers and hand-cannons, guns are some really beautifully manufactured tools. And beautiful manufacturing costs money. And people should be proud of the quality tools that they have acquired with the money that they have earned from their hard work.
The alternative to my .308 is me trapping an animal and then stabbing it repeatedly with a sharp stick, I guess. That sounds like an absolutely horrid fate. I am proud to own that quality rifle and will be proud to humanely dispatch an animal or two with it this season. It's a lot better than a cow having its head chainsawed off at the local meat packing plant.
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Not interested. Your ignorant prejudices are your own cross to bear.
It’s an interesting sport where the odds are all stacked on one side.
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Are they? How so?
I think quite many who are following this thread would find it surprising how stacked the odds often are, on the wildlife's side.
At least when I go alone (or with a friend or two) without dogs (I don't have any dogs that would be helpful to me while hunting
) tryig to harvest some 'organic chicken'. Organised big (or small) game 'hunt' in big groups and with a bunch of dogs is something else. I'd call that "sporting" instead of hunting, even if the resulting monetary and/or nutritional value of success may be higher for the participants. Just not my cup of tea.
It is not about the killing. Providing for oneself is satisfying. Developing the skills to be independent and self-reliant are satisfying.
Denigrating people wanting to develop survival skills is the squealing whine of a person saying "depend on mommy, just like me".
Developing and maintaining the skills to care for yourself ensures the survival of your offspring. There is a very thin veil of societal functioning and not functioning. When covid broke out in my city, the grocery stores were wiped out in 72 hours. I was very grateful for my gardens and chickens, and prickly pear and yucca stands. I applaud any person's efforts to develop and maintain survival skills.
Good on you Vin, and good hunting.
I don't really agree. The goal can be something less than an absolute necessity and still not be engaged in for the purpose of entertainment. Indeed, it may be outright distasteful, just less so than the alternatives.
Personally, I'm not a big fan of hunting...it's something I find both tedious and messy (I don't like handling even precut meat from the grocer, though I can dress a carcass, if I must), but if circumstances made it the most practical way for me to stay comfortably fed, I would not hesitate to hunt. It's really no different than, say, doing laundry. I don't like doing laundry and I sure won't die if I refuse to do laundry. I still strongly prefer wearing clean clothes, so I wash mine, regularly.
That said, I usually do try to make anything I do as enjoyable as possible. Most every act I take can be distilled into a cost/benefit assessment and turning an otherwise distasteful act into a game or sport might make that assessment more favorable.
Virtually no one with Vin's hardware is destitute enough to starve without hunting, but there are people who are, even in States.
Subsistence hunting is a thing. It's most common among indigenous groups, but there are quite a few other rural poor who would actually starve without the ability to hunt, or at the very least be forced into crime, often with the goal of being incarcerated, which is the only form of social welfare that may realistically be available to them.
Regardless, I try not to judge anyone for liking what they like, only for the harm they actually cause...tempered by any extenuating circumstances.
By and large the idea of the 'ordinary American' can only be an over generalization, but fewer than one-in-three Americans owns a firearm and only about one-in-twenty hunt with any regularity.
Both. One rarely learns or reinforces prejudices without examples that support them--and a prejudiced assumption that turns out to be correct doesn't make it any less prejudicial. It is perfectly possible to arrive at a sound conclusion via very unsound means.
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Gave me a chuckle
I'm kitting out my AK for hog hunting. Will share a photo when it's ready in a week or so.
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It's estimated that the number of owners is somewhere in the 30-40% range.Wonder where you got your sources from. My first random google search brought this to me:
This is from 2018 and there were 120.5 guns per 100 people. These numbers have hardly shrunk since then.
Daily Bulletin: Just How Many Guns Do Americans Own? (And Why Do Estimates Vary So Widely?)
A June 2018 report from the Small Arms Survey estimates that American civilians own 393 million guns.www.thetrace.org
It is impossible to know for certain, because there is little to no registration upon first purchase, and private sales thereafter are virtually unregulated.
Key facts about Americans and guns
About six-in-ten U.S. adults (58%) favor stricter gun laws. Another 26% say that U.S. gun laws are about right, while 15% favor less strict gun laws.
www.pewresearch.org
Most Americans don't own firearms, but many firearm owners own more than one, some own a lot more than one.
Vin has mentioned owning at least three. Most of my in-laws own at least one, including my minor siblings in-law. I know some people who own dozens. However, I and most of the people I know, own none.
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I'm pretty close to the 3% mentioned in that article. I've owned a couple more that I either gifted or sold to others.
Most everyone else I know owns either one or two, or none at all (the majority).
What can I say, I like the pew.
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Thanks much. Yeah, I'm really excited to zero her this weekend.
I already have the 22 zeroed for when squirrel season starts on the 1st.
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