Ozric
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Why are we left in the dark?
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They did let us know. They said they don't know when they will be able to work on console release because they have to sort out the PC issues.
It's done when it can run without problems on a PC with similiar specs to what can run Horizons. Or just run without problems period.
Odyssey on PC hase some serious issues right now. There are weird FPS drops for one. For example, in settlements, I can have around 30 FPS when running around (max settings - supersampling 2.0), or I can get single digit FPS without moving, or even looking around, when staring into space (so no heavy geometry to be generated). At the same time my CPU and GPU usage isn't changing, remaining below normal, and changing my graphic settings don't make any difference. So, there's something weird going on, even after 7 updates.
In concourse my FPS is dropping rapidly below 30 no matter what settings I use. And I'm sure there are more problems like that, that would make the game run poorly (if at all) on consoles.
Odyssey is still in Beta. PC is just Early Access. Seriously.
And this is why there will probably never be a console version of Odyssey. They are already in the process of expanding content (new SRV, new interiors etc), so it's not just about fixing the technical issues anymore. They're putting more focus on creating content for Odyssey. The technical aspects are what they are, there will be no sudden revolution in framerate and optimisation. Lighting is fixed, most of the glaring bugs are fixed and Frontier are turning towards actual development now. However, it can't be properly done on consoles, for the exact reason that it can't run as well as Horizons did. Hence why there's no console version even mentioned. This ship slowly sails away as they say.
Sorry I seem to be going round in circles .
What constitutes pc being fixed FPS ? lighting ? Something else ? A mix of all above ?
So is that when DB can play on his old pc ?
Or when various PC players say it's working ?
When Yamiks is happy ?
No dates no timelines just officially from Fdev .
This is what Fdev are working towards before looking at console .
So take for an instance ( basics ) 25 FPS is the level ,
PC get 10 now
Update 8 it jumps to 20 ( I'm getting excited )
Update 9 it drops to 15 ( disappointed but hey is programming magic stuff)
Update 10 back up to 20
Update 11 up to 22( I'm nearly peeing)
Update 12 it hits 25 wohooo Fdev start looking at console . ( This is all a basic insight for me )
As it stands I see no light at the end of the tunnel . Just when PC is fixed .
Pc has to be fixed yes definitely I'm not disagreeing
Yes the CM's will tell us after PC is fixed ( whatever that means )
@Florenus has come the closest to answering ( and I appreciate that ) without the "Duh when PC is fixed
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What constitutes pc being fixed FPS ? lighting ? Something else ? A mix of all above ?
So is that when DB can play on his old pc ?
Or when various PC players say it's working ?
When Yamiks is happy ?
No dates no timelines just officially from Fdev .
This is what Fdev are working towards before looking at console .
So take for an instance ( basics ) 25 FPS is the level ,
PC get 10 now
Update 8 it jumps to 20 ( I'm getting excited )
Update 9 it drops to 15 ( disappointed but hey is programming magic stuff)
Update 10 back up to 20
Update 11 up to 22( I'm nearly peeing)
Update 12 it hits 25 wohooo Fdev start looking at console . ( This is all a basic insight for me )
As it stands I see no light at the end of the tunnel . Just when PC is fixed .
Pc has to be fixed yes definitely I'm not disagreeing
Yes the CM's will tell us after PC is fixed ( whatever that means )
@Florenus has come the closest to answering ( and I appreciate that ) without the "Duh when PC is fixed
"
well, that's because the tunnel is not straight, but has a lot of bends and twists...
I wouldn't go that far.
I think they have lots of people working on Odyssey and not all of them are working on optimisation, so it makes sense to add some more stuff with updates, if only to make it look like progress. I mean - 7 updates and we still have serious issues with the game running as intended. Without additional things like that SRV coming, it would be bleak as hell.
As far as that stuff goes (SRV, emotes, Horizon clothing adapted for Odyssey) - that's why I treat Odyssey as EA. I believe a lot of this stuff was supposed to be in Odyssey from the beginning, but they were unable to do it in time. Everything in Odyssey seems to be implemented in rather basic, bare bones version. Not to mention complete lack of optimisation at the launch. Like none.
I mean, I watched one of recent streams, with one of the programmers as a guest. The way he talked about interacting with NPC's during missions - it sounds like they only just now, in update 8, implemented some really basic mechanics that will allow for some more NPC interactions in form of branching dialogues, while up to that point only interaction you can have with NPC is mission giver that's basically a mission terminal that looks like a human.
The best thing console cmdrs can do at this point is to enjoy Horizons as much as you're able, or scrap your FC (if you have one), park your ships, and play something else until FDEV has the content we want.
Another update and again no news for us.....It's becoming blatantly obvious that we don't matter anymore.....If we even mattered in the first place. :/
Shhh we will get the enlightened few with their words of wisdom . It's not fixed yet for PC yet , so be thankful we the superior gamers are beta testing ...
Wouldn't want them to sound off again ..
Wouldn't want them to sound off again ..
I'm hoping that some of the comments from the console bases gets acknowledged majority has been diplomatic in voicing concerns, in the main thread about update discussion (Which does include horizons therefore consoles) am strongly getting concerned console comments won't even get an acknowledgement being drowned out by the pc crowd. I know it's their moment right now but that doesn't seem to have changed from even a communication aspect for a considerable period now possibly the beginning of the year sigh.......
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I think we just have to wait now Daze. Clearly Sally cannot tell us anything and while it's pretty annoying, disappointing and all that jazz. I want news as much as you.
Pinging her constantly in new threads won't lead to anything useful and as rule 2 points out. No harassment.
Will we get EDO ?
I don't really think so . I think they dropped their profits by a third for this year ? So to me that's no console EDO till next financial year .
I had thought before Starfield drops but I think Fdev will wait til August and say consoles ? Who ?? Didn't we say we aren't going to support ohhh silly us we forgot . Lol
My own opinion only
I don't really think so . I think they dropped their profits by a third for this year ? So to me that's no console EDO till next financial year .
I had thought before Starfield drops but I think Fdev will wait til August and say consoles ? Who ?? Didn't we say we aren't going to support ohhh silly us we forgot . Lol
My own opinion only
No worries boss I will behave myself and channel my frustrations into other male internet based entertainment lol
Even if we do get EDO I don't think it's going to go over very well. After the disastrous launch we are witnessing with PC and subsequent "indefinite" delay I think any console release is going to be met with disappointment. For example, "Really FDEV, after 16 months (being generous) of waiting this is all we get?" I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think that we're going to see or feel the excitement of a new expansion. After all of this, I think it's going to feel like a disappointment. Sure, we'll play and hopefully enjoy it, but it's not going to be the same level of excitement as it would have been without the issues and delay.
I have concerns.
but I can’t change anything. and I don’t want to pi** off Sally and the CM’s as that won’t help my cause.
- I’m concerned that Frontier do not have the skills necessary to optimise the game to work on the legacy console estate.
- I’m concerned that Frontier think that acknowledging this will be share price affecting so are deliberately saying nothing.
- I’m concerned that current Gen consoles will get an EDO-lite offering due to a couple of historic design decisions / constraints such as no Keyboard support or fixed controller selection on boot (how will HOTAS users work on planets?)
- I’m concerned that the cost of fixing PC is so extortionate that it’ll take up all the appetite and budget for console development this year - meaning console will be the latter half of next financial year at the earliest.
- i’m concerned that once the PC commanders get performance to the fictional stable state, that they’ll demand via forum spamming, YouTube, influencers, etc that Frontier dedicate more and more time developing new content for them, at the expense of console because they are bored. (Queue post regarding dying game - steam stats etc)
but I can’t change anything. and I don’t want to pi** off Sally and the CM’s as that won’t help my cause.
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Oh we're still here. It's just that as comments like that show, you don't need me to make a fool of you when you're doing such a sterling job on your own.
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That's pretty cringe bro.
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