Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

I think also that SQ42 can be a huge success if they have a quality similar to Bethesda and use the same model.

Thank god i wasn't drinking coffee.

You know the nickname for Bethesda is Bugthesda right? Its the community who fix most of the bugs in their games, thankfully when they are moddable, which most are.

Ok, i know, almost every dev gets stick over quality, but boy, you could have picked a less low hanging fruit!

Don't get me wrong, i love their Elder Scrolls games, they do make good games.
 

Actually seems like they're quite far along with it.
On the contrary. Server meshing is cancelled and i-cache was just a dream of a guy whose head suffered a bottle falling on.
 

Actually seems like they're quite far along with it.
Depends how you read it :)

They say the basic meshing is end of next year, and no date for the advanced dynamic meshing. Though they do count the start from 2017, so yes they are 4 years into it :) (Any project I had been working on for 4 years I wouldn't want to say 'we've barely started')
 

Actually seems like they're quite far along with it.

Oh no they’re definitely quite far behind ;)

And damn, just replication layer for Q1/Q2. Static servers coming more like the end of 2022. Just lol.

This should be a good read though, ta ;)
 

Actually seems like they're quite far along with it.

Ugh...
  1. Static version end of 2022, meaning maybe sometime in 2023. Pyro Q4 2023?
  2. Not clear they even know how to implement the dynamic version. Given that the dynamic version is vastly more complex, I estimate 2026, unironically.
  3. @WotGTheAgent 's leak about restarting the work in 2020 confirmed.
  4. "Dense situations" strike back! They already know even a hundred players seeing each other will be a challenge, but they blame it solely on the rendering overhead. Which is disingenuous, since it is also a networking issue. This really cannot be mitigated with any kind of server smashing. They clearly are aware of it: "This is where we will need to start implementing game mechanics that prevent these scenarios from happening too frequently.". In other words, it is still not clear what will happen if a Javelin enters a battle with an already significant number of characters.
  5. Remember - player limit is actually player+NPC limit. They are not touching on it here, nobody asked I think.
  6. I guess - no capital ship battles, no epic situations with hundreds of NPCs zipping over a spaceport in their space limos.
 
That's not behaviour exclusive of just Aunt though, there was plenty here acting that way who still have trouble admitting they're being "haters" because that would bring some introspection that might make them selfawarewolves like you said before.

Seems like there's a huge emotional bias fuelled by a great Elite fanboyism that makes them feel good to attack SC for things that also happen in Elite and with Frontier, and many other companies by that matter, but they make a blind eye because their not emotionally invested in hating those games and companies. It's like SC is all they know and think about. Which is why they think having a playable alpha advertised and sold as such is a demonic offence while having no qualms with Frontier releasing Odyssey in such a sorry state that even Braben had to come out of exile to pretend he still cares about it's "baby".

I've said it before though. If these seemingly "mega Elite fans" showed as much care and thought for Elite as they show for everything about SC, Frontier wouldn't have dared to release Odyssey in that state. Doing so many have opened their eyes and gone refugee and even rogue while others have no other option than doubling down on their antics.

One thing is certain, as time goes by these antics and intentions became more apparently emotionally biased and deceitful. It hasn't been about gaming for them for a long time now, but about saving face.

And, just like getting Elite in worthy enough shape for refugees to come back, it's not getting any easier.

Just like D2E hasn't had it easy trying to carry boxes in SC:
What mega Elite fans? Average content on these forums is kind of stuff that would get you banned from SC forums for good, if directed against SC. Basically it is sort of Odyssey/newest patch/game in general/Fdev is that not very appealable smelling brown stuff...And if someone says that maybe things are not so bad, that one is accused of being fanboi/white knight and so on.
 
Well, quite far along in reference to what we heard at citcon. Thought they didnt even have a basic version of it working.

Funny though, because go back a year or so and you'd see people proclaiming things like "Actually seems like they're quite far along with it."

That's the funny thing about CIG/SC, always seems like things are close, only for them to keep kicking the can down the road.

The scary thing is how some backers wipe their memories repeatedly to avoid remembering these things have happened time and again or they remember but "this time its different"
 
Q1 2023 at the latest is my guess, but its probably gonna be Q4 2022. If they release it its probably gonna be along with Nyx, honestly. Its a tiny system, they got the landing zone and its just a bunch of barren rocks.

Predictions are a slippery beast, and you might want to avoid making them. Golgot periodically pulls out predictions made in the past by faithful backers, which gives us all a good chuckle.

As for

Nyx, honestly. Its a tiny system

You really don't understand who is running the show do you?

Chris: "Ok, so Nyx is an incredibly important system lore wise. Its very central so we have to consider its wider role and the sort of traffic we might see going through it. First i want unique fashion for every NPC at the starport to highlight the diversity there. And i want aliens! Banu, the turtle ninja guys, and perhaps some horse headed aliens there..."

Dev: "Chris, this is the first thing we've heard about horse headed aliens"

Chris: "Security! Remove that man! So, as i was saying, horse headed aliens! Very important lorewise. I've got a document that i wrote last night on them. And we need a trailer to go along with the launch! I want a living breathing scene on the planet with... hehehe... let's do Enemy Mine this time, i saw it just last week. So, lone guy, citizen, on the planet, crashed, alien, let it be a Vanduul. Hostile at first. But they are remote. No help is coming. They must cooperate to survive. Throw in a giant crab there that will be their nemesis! Show the bond they forge as they learn to cooperate and work together to kill the giant crab!"

Other dev (nervously): "I'm concerned that we might be trying to present an impression of the game that doesn't exist"

Chris: "You don't understand, we aren't trying to mislead people, we are just wanting to show the idea of what could be"

New dev: "How many missiles should the crab carry?"

Chris: "CRAB WAS NOT A JOKE!"
 
Those 1000 jobs over the next 5 years .... seems like a lot to me.

It is. I've no idea how the job market in Manchester is these days for tech. One of my clients never gets to 1000 people in the same city. It usually caps out at around 500 despite them being a good, respected, and well paying employer on the market. They simply suck up most of the real talent in the area and can't grow any more. So they have to keep opening new offices in different cities around the world.

But maybe it could be possible, at least, if things were how they were a few years ago.

The WFH culture is really taking off now. After decades of being told that companies can't let people work from home as the rule, that it would hurt productivity, that managers wouldn't be able to control projects, it appears it was all a load of bull, and that WFH tends to increase productivity. No more sitting in traffic jams. No more spending time commuting so get more time in bed or relaxing. Its good for people's mental health and reduces stress, which in turn makes people more productive. No more going outside for 10 minute smoke breaks every hour, the smokers can just smoke at their computers while working. No more extended coffee breaks as people gather and natter about office gossip.

And of course, for the companies, it also means they get to reduce their utilities costs, their office rent cost (as well as decoration and provision of amenities), and even their hardware costs can be reduced by offering employees options to upgrade their home computers on a sort of shared cost basis with the company.

Sure, there are negatives as well with WFH, and its not suited for everyone, and for many its not possible, but if there is one industry perfectly suited to WFH its the programming industry.

Once again, i really can't fathom what CIG are thinking here investing so heavily in 2 major new offices in the current global situation. Its madness.
 
Back
Top Bottom