Frontier, let us use Nublar 2015 as Nublar 1993!!! JW's futuristic entry does not allow JP!

Camargo

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The 2015 map is MUCH MORE OPEN, it's bigger and nicer. We want to build Jurassic Park parks (1993) here, but THIS DETAIL gets in the way a little: The map entry is from the JW monorail (2015). Can you give us the ability to delete this entry in Sandbox please? I've seen other people complain about the same thing on reddit.

What I want is a complete and freer sandbox. I want to have the freedom to create my parks however I want. These details fill the patience. Let me enjoy this grand map in whatever theme I like! Let us delete this f.. entry!

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Entrance of the biggest Nublar map in the game. If you want to play it in the JP theme, you'll currently have to put up with this futuristic Monorail 2015 entry.​
 
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Albur87

Albur87
I completely agree. The map of Nublar 2015 is much more open, allows for more creations. I also want to do it in the Jurassic Park theme, but this monorail bothers me. I would like to use the helicopter for the arrival of visitors. This JW monorail hinders not only the immersion, but also the way in which guests arrive. I wish there could be an edit to this map, even if it was an ability to delete this entry. There should be a way to make this more free.

Jens Erik, could you advise the team of this detail? it doesn't seem like a very difficult thing to do.
 

PCMR4Life

PCMR4Life
I have said this from the start. The JW Nublar map is bigger than the JP era map. We should have access to this map and be able to use it in a JP themed build. When you go into sandbox you can pick a map and you have a choice between Jurassic World, Jurassic Park or both. If you choose JP with this map it should remove the monorail from the map.

The only issue is if you choose to use both JP and JW buildings you get stuck with the transportation rating and if want to build a legitimate park and operate it efficiently the transportation rating is going to hurt your JP themed build. In a JP only park there is no transportation rating. But if you build a JP only park you can't have aviaries or lagoons. The only way to get access to the aviaries and lagoons with a JP themed park build is to choose both building types at the start of your sandbox build.

So if you want to build a JP themed park only you basically get locked out of half the new content. There really isn't much in the game that's really new. Most of the Dinosaurs are from the first game and that's fine, some buildings have design changes and there is the new AI and animations. The flying reptiles and marine reptiles are really the biggest new additions to the game and if you choose to build a JP themed park only you can't use them. Frontier didn't put a JP themed aviary in the game. They didn't add a JP theme to the lagoons. You can't even use the JW themed glass dome aviary unless you choose both building types and then you get punished with a transport rating.

I am not that far into the game. I have only completed the campaign and I had to restart over in the JP chaos theory scenario. If anyone has advanced in the game further and has all the maps unlocked in sandbox then choose the JW nublar map for a sandbox build and choose JP only and see if the monorail is still there.
 

Mjmannella

Mjmannella
There's a good chance that removing this from the Sandbox map could impact user saves, I imagine Frontier wouldn't want to risk player parks to corrupt.
 

Mjmannella

Mjmannella
Well when the choice is between possible save corruption and a minor aesthetic clash, I think Frontier will go with the latter consequence.
 

Camargo

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Mjmannella said:
There's a good chance that removing this from the Sandbox map could impact user saves, I imagine Frontier wouldn't want to risk player parks to corrupt.
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So here we go again having to put up with Frontier's stupid decisions forever... Again, are we going to have to put up with something like that just because they didn't think straight?

Was it so hard to think at first that this would be a "Problem" for fans? It's disappointing. I hope that despite any problems they fix it.
 

Camargo

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Dark_Ansem said:
I still think it would be worth to risk it. There can't be that many people having built wondrous sandboxes.
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Knowing Frontier, I would venture to say that they will keep this disgrace that way with the excuse of "saved games". I hope I'm wrong. Hope that Jens Erik shows up there and writes something about it so the team can see the detail.

Honestly, just change one detail if JP is chosen. Frontier really likes to annoy their fans.
 
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Dark_Ansem

Dark_Ansem
Camargo said:
Knowing Frontier, I would venture to say that they will keep this disgrace that way with the excuse of "saved games". I hope I'm wrong. Hope that Jens Erik shows up there and writes something about it so the team can see the detail.

Honestly, just change one detail if JP is chosen. Frontier really likes to off their fans.
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Or make it toggleable - maybe in line with more sandbox options as right now they are a bit limited.
 

Albur87

Albur87
I think this:

As dark_ansem said, at the moment our sandbox is limited. I believe Frontier will improve it as much of the community is currently complaining about this feature. Their chance to change is there. Is it possible to modify this? It's possible. They will do? I don't know, but if we ask and explain maybe it's more likely. I don't particularly want to play JP on that squished 1993 Nublar map. I want to take this opportunity to create my Jurassic Park in the largest map available. Is it such an absurd request?
 

Camargo

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Teclisrex said:
How can i build the 1993 aviary in sandbox?? Only see the jurasic world aviary
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Not currently. But I assume that will be fixed. Don't worry, THIS they'll still put.

Mjmannella said:
Well when the choice is between possible save corruption and a minor aesthetic clash, I think Frontier will go with the latter consequence.
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The current sandbox mode has not received due attention. If Frontier decides to think, it will realize that what everyone wants is a functional, complete, and editable sandbox. I assume they will mess with the Sandbox. Not improving it is a mistake.

It is at this time that Frontier SHOULD modify the entry to this map (Since Isle of Sorna is another bizarre and small map, Nublar 2015 is currently our only chance to play a decent Costa Rican island. But i want this for JP models too!).
 

Camargo

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Mjmannella said:
Methinks you glossed over the part about map changes possibly corrupting save files
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Man, that's not our problem (players). It's the developers who didn't quite think about making something really customizable, about making something that fans would like to play the way they want to. I haven't omitted anything, I'm just saying how it should be, and that it needs to be "fixed" for better style alternation. YOU decide what you want to play on the map you want. I see two ways to resolve the situation:

- Give us the opportunity to delete the entry at the start of the match. Or if you choose JP, she doesn't exist. (do you really find this so impossible to do?)

- Create another ing map for Nublar island that is BIG. We asked for large maps three years ago and when JWE2 arrives we get a 1993 mountain range interfering with everything.

I can't accept that saved games is such a problem. It's ridiculous actually.
 
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