Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Decided to go posh whilst doing the boxes...even if you're penniless, you can at least pretend to be rich. It's like taking a Ferrari to Tesco to pick up some milk and bread 🥳

5qMMMdg.png
Do posh ships have posh running costs. I mean say in Elite taking something like Imperial Cutter for some noob mission is not going to pay even fuel costs and paint scratches.
 
If CIG aimed to release anything, they would not be scaling up their staff numbers and buying buildings to house them in in two separate countries.

Those ship sales better scale as much as their staffing does. 1700 people supposedly working on a game is not cheap. And by game I mean stuff to sell on the cash shop.
 
Last edited:
Was just thinking back to the time LittleAnt tried to imply critics who had stopped posting here had seen the light and were now fans of SC.

Having thought about this, I wouldn't particularly be happy if, for some reason, eg: I die before SC releases or collapses (which isn't beyond the realms of possibility), if LA tried to claim my absence was due to me seeing the light.

Therefore i'd like to state clearly, that if i do stop posting, for any reason, be it death, in jail for scamming people out of hundreds of millions, or just get bored of laughing at CIG, it most definitely isn't because i've started playing SC.

Should that unlikely event ever occur, which i've stated i'll only consider if CR is removed, but let us assume i say forget it, i'll play anyway, then i'll be man enough to come here and post it, and will of course talk at length about how many Idrisii i've bought.
 

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
SC is only a game. If CIG fail, we'll just have a game disappearing, nothing more. If children´s education fail, it makes broken adults.
You talk about it like it's something important for humankind or society. It's not, it's a leasure.
Gaming companies can have no consequences and zero accountability, education cannot.
Well, it was you who originally equated Rockstar with CIG when it comes to hosting thousands of devs, and it was you who stated CIG is not wasting money, and it was you who dismissed the salaries and compensation of CIG directors as normal. Etc, etc.

My response simply highlighted how in fact CIG is far from comparable to Rockstar. And how the fundamental differences between them can in fact often lead to significan waste, non delivery and subpar quality and including the completely disproportional compensation packages for leadership teams that are still crowdfunded and haven’t yet even released a single product for 10+ years.

But hey, if now it turns out you don’t care about waste, or sub par quality, or leadership teams using your money to give themselves dividends, or non delivery… All that for a meager 400 millions of backers money, then please you do you.
 
Last edited:
Those dividends make me wonder. Either CIG sells products and gets some income, preferably profits from where they pay dividends. OR they insist that their "sales" are in fact pledges, then it is not sale income, does not give profits, and there is nothing from where you should pay out dividends. It is like company taking a loan, and then paying "dividends" to owners from that "income". Crime in many legislations.
 

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Those dividends make me wonder. Either CIG sells products and gets some income, preferably profits from where they pay dividends. OR they insist that their "sales" are in fact pledges, then it is not sale income, does not give profits, and there is nothing from where you should pay out dividends. It is like company taking a loan, and then paying "dividends" to owners from that "income". Crime in many legislations.
Indeed. Unless you consider that you have in fact released your actual product. Sales in exchange of an actual released product, not pledges or crowdfund anymore. But we have gone through this before.
 
Last edited:

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Just another disclaimer. I mean, great in a way they do say "maybe", "hopefully", but at this point it seems more like they put the disclaimers to ensure they can't be done legally rather than an actual belief they can actually deliver on any of it.

And its not like they haven't for years hyped and led people to believe they will one day get those hundreds or even thousands of player battles. I'm sure there have been a few statements from Erin and Chris over the years about thousands of player battles. That's one of the things people gave them money for.

Turns out, it doesn't look likely its going to happen, ever.

This is the cycle CIG have got themselves into.

Hype features they don't know they can deliver on
Keep hyping it
Eventually start to deliver
Actual implementation is limited but "Tier 0"
CIG walk back on their earlier hype
Backers absolve CIG and retcon history to say CIG never promised it, it was just something they hoped to achieve.

Turns out you can be as ambitious as you want and hype things as much as you want even if you have no clue how to do it. Backers will absolve you anyway if you fail to deliver on it.
You forgot in that cycle the part where CIG gets backers cash especially during the hyping part, but doesn’t return it when walking back.
 
Do posh ships have posh running costs. I mean say in Elite taking something like Imperial Cutter for some noob mission is not going to pay even fuel costs and paint scratches.
For running costs...not really. Bigger QT drives use more fuel...or upgraded components have a trade off by using more power etc. The only real differential cost of posh ships is in your wallet when you buy them :D
 
Those dividends make me wonder. Either CIG sells products and gets some income, preferably profits from where they pay dividends. OR they insist that their "sales" are in fact pledges, then it is not sale income, does not give profits, and there is nothing from where you should pay out dividends. It is like company taking a loan, and then paying "dividends" to owners from that "income". Crime in many legislations.

CIG provides the Jump Point magazine to subscribers. Completed product delivered ;)
 
Those dividends make me wonder. Either CIG sells products and gets some income, preferably profits from where they pay dividends. OR they insist that their "sales" are in fact pledges, then it is not sale income, does not give profits, and there is nothing from where you should pay out dividends. It is like company taking a loan, and then paying "dividends" to owners from that "income". Crime in many legislations.
Star Citizen is Schrodinger's Game.

It can be thought of as live and not live at the same time.

So, they can just make it up as they go. And who'd have thought that they might do that...?

(e. Agreed, the dividends also made me 'wonder'.)
 
Last edited:
Those dividends make me wonder. Either CIG sells products and gets some income, preferably profits from where they pay dividends. OR they insist that their "sales" are in fact pledges, then it is not sale income, does not give profits, and there is nothing from where you should pay out dividends. It is like company taking a loan, and then paying "dividends" to owners from that "income". Crime in many legislations.
You don't understand shell company development...
 
Back
Top Bottom