New ships

There has not been a new space ship added to a game about space ships (elite dangerous) since December 11th 2018.

That is nearly 3 years.

I’d like some insight from developers on their thought process here, because I don’t get it.
 
There has not been a new space ship added to a game about space ships (elite dangerous) since December 11th 2018.

That is nearly 3 years.

I’d like some insight from developers on their thought process here, because I don’t get it.
In theory if you were in the process of developing ship interiors, adding more ships to the game would greatly increase your already large workload.

In practice who knows why they haven't added any. They have some ships on the drawing board that never were released but we found them through leaks and data dumps.
 
In theory if you were in the process of developing ship interiors, adding more ships to the game would greatly increase your already large workload.

In practice who knows why they haven't added any. They have some ships on the drawing board that never were released but we found them through leaks and data dumps.
I feel like that isn’t a good enough answer to why a space game that literally starts you out in a space ship alone and unafraid doesn’t regularly pump out new space ships. The concept just blows my mind.

Space game

3 Years

no ships
 
I believe you are most likely never going to get the answer you seek, and in the unlikely event that you do, you will not like it once you have it. But that's just me.

EDIT: BTW not sarcasm, just straight up honesty. - I can see where that could be misconstrued by a reader...
No not at all, I’ve been here since GPP and I’ve seen and felt all the development blunders along the way. But this one perplexes me even more than adding an FPS that no significant majority asked for. Paid DLC and not a single new ship, who sat in that conference room and said, yeah sounds good let’s roll with it.
 
I feel like that isn’t a good enough answer to why a space game that literally starts you out in a space ship alone and unafraid doesn’t regularly pump out new space ships. The concept just blows my mind.

Space game

3 Years

no ships
Well I mean I'm not psychic. I have no idea what's going on behind the curtain. I used to play world of tanks and it seems like every other month they are/were pumping out new tanks. If FD added a new ship every month and they actually were hypothetically making ship interiors then they would have 36 additional spaces to both create and try to make unique looking. That amount of work would become overwhelming quickly and wed end up with cookie cutter interiors.

Believe me I want new ships too. I bring up DLC ship packs every time someone starts posting about how poor fdev needs money so we should all start simping for them by buying tons of arx. The fact is it doesn't make any sense at all why you would have a space game but refuse to add more ships unless there was something else like interiors at work in the background.
 
2021 Earth alone has more ships from recon-observation, trainers, light attack, light-heavy logistics, refueling, firefighting, rescue, anti-submarine, electronic warfare, multipurpose, fighters, superiority fighters, stealth fighters...than the entire Galaxy in 3307!

Clearly Bio-waste is more profitable than selling ships in 3307.
 
Someone watched Ant's latest video. :D

One possible reason for no new ships is FD just made a huge mess of their latest paid DLC and they're still scrabbling around trying to fix that. It's quite possible new ships were planned as part of that DLC but they're currently on hold because huge mess.

Another is just that the ships we already have have lost a lot of their original speciality due to the amount of customisation, engineering, new modules,etc now available. For example, pretty much any ship can be made into a perfectly usable explorer now. So, you could almost say what would be the point of even more ships?

Don't get me wrong, I'd like some new ships. I'd also like a version of Odyssey I can play.
 
I think it's probably quite difficult to make and balance new fsd ships but I'd love it if they made new slf and srv ......soon?
 
So, you could almost say what would be the point of even more ships?
Variety. Plain and simple. New ships keep the game fresh, it’s almost as good as- if not better than, new content. And in some cases it IS new content when they typically put it behind a grind wall. Balance I see as a non issue honestly for the exact reason you mentioned with engineers. Just make a few minor tweaks in one specific area to a template FDev no doubtedly already has and viola. Just make something aesthetically pleasing that a min-maxer can tool with. I still just can’t see any valid excuse as to why this wouldn’t be a thing

not even world of tanks style either, maybe 1 or 2 ships every 6 months? That’s too much to ask? I mean I spent the first almost 2 years of this game in an ASPx because it was a great all arounder, and people seriously defend FDev by saying that new ships would add too much variety or be pointless? I literally don’t see it. You have people play this entire game in only 1 or 2 ships.
 
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The reason that they’re not adding ships is because no one asked for them, and wouldn’t use them even if they were added. The reason none asked for them is because they probabky already have 25 ships in their shipyard and they only ever use three of them. There are a dozen different reasons for that, but it is what it is. If there were new ships, one of two things would happen, either they wouldn’t be a fit for any specific gameplay loop and they wouldn’t get used, or they would be almost a perfect fit for a particular gameplay loop and the ships the player were using for that gameplay loop would now not ever be used again.

This quite simply isn’t something the players want, and they demonstrate it by their playing habits now, their forum comments notwithstanding.
 
The reason that they’re not adding ships is because no one asked for them, and wouldn’t use them even if they were added. The reason none asked for them is because they probabky already have 25 ships in their shipyard and they only ever use three of them. There are a dozen different reasons for that, but it is what it is. If there were new ships, one of two things would happen, either they wouldn’t be a fit for any specific gameplay loop and they wouldn’t get used, or they would be almost a perfect fit for a particular gameplay loop and the ships the player were using for that gameplay loop would now not ever be used again.

This quite simply isn’t something the players want, and they demonstrate it by their playing habits now, their forum comments notwithstanding.

Yeah I think you’re WAY off the mark. Go check out ants latest video and read the comments. More active users in his YouTube comments than on this forum talking about exactly this. You’re lost in the sauce and drinking the koolaid man. Im glad you’re an ardent supporter but this forum represents a tiny fraction of the player base. Not to mention the exodus of long time players like myself for various reasons. This exact topic being one of them.
 
Someone watched Ant's latest video. :D

One possible reason for no new ships is FD just made a huge mess of their latest paid DLC and they're still scrabbling around trying to fix that. It's quite possible new ships were planned as part of that DLC but they're currently on hold because huge mess.

Another is just that the ships we already have have lost a lot of their original speciality due to the amount of customisation, engineering, new modules,etc now available. For example, pretty much any ship can be made into a perfectly usable explorer now. So, you could almost say what would be the point of even more ships?

Don't get me wrong, I'd like some new ships. I'd also like a version of Odyssey I can play.
I did watch the video and it just struck a cord, because I have brought this topic up on this forum countless times at this point. 3 years and 1 paid DLC later it just blows my mind.
 
I did watch the video and it just struck a cord, because I have brought this topic up on this forum countless times at this point. 3 years and 1 paid DLC later it just blows my mind.
Yeah, I watched it too. Getting ED content from Ant feels like a rare treat lately.

I'm not really disagreeing with you, I'd like new ships too. Playing on console currently it feels ships are the only new content I may get in the foreseeable future.

I think it's a safe bet FD were planning new ships before the Odyssey alpha & launch saga radically changed their focus. They initially said 'no new ships or SRVs' when Odyssey launched, but there were already leaks and we know now there's at least one new SRV coming (still unclear if it will be available to Horizons players though) and I bet there are at least two ships waiting in the background that have been put on hold until Odyssey is fixed to where they want it to be.

BTW that new SRV was named by Bruce on a recent stream as the 'Scorpion' which is the same name the SRV had in the leaks earlier in the year.
 

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Yeah I think you’re WAY off the mark. Go check out ants latest video and read the comments. More active users in his YouTube comments than on this forum talking about exactly this. You’re lost in the sauce and drinking the koolaid man. Im glad you’re an ardent supporter but this forum represents a tiny fraction of the player base. Not to mention the exodus of long time players like myself for various reasons. This exact topic being one of them.
You’re correct, but obviously not in the way you‘re intending. People who take the time to register an account on a company run public forum are the minority of players. Those who choose to comment with any frequency after making that account are even fewer. Public forums have always given an outsized voice to the complainers. People don’t make accounts to comment on public forums to say “well done, keep up the good work.” They make accounts to complain. Please don’t let the echo chamber these forums, and the comment sections below a YouTube video make actually convince you that you speak for the majority of the player base. That’s happening way to frequently in our society today as it is. The vocal minority is just that, nothing more.
 
You’re correct, but obviously not in the way you‘re intending. People who take the time to register an account on a company run public forum are the minority of players. Those who choose to comment with any frequency after making that account are even fewer. Public forums have always given an outsized voice to the complainers. People don’t make accounts to comment on public forums to say “well done, keep up the good work.” They make accounts to complain. Please don’t let the echo chamber these forums, and the comment sections below a YouTube video make actually convince you that you speak for the majority of the player base. That’s happening way to frequently in our society today as it is. The vocal minority is just that, nothing more.
Cognitive dissonance.
 
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