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But CIG cashed in money in exchange of and thanks to those statements (among others). If he lied then this would be either a scam or just good old fraud, no?
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Interesting. So, regarding the quotes album, you agree that it has some value documenting CIG's lies and other shennanigans?
Regarding the faithful/cultist thing, i explained my perspective on this a good few pages ago. I don't like the term cultist because it only applies to a very small minority of people who are so far down the rabbit hole they really do come across like cultists. I use the term faithful to mean those who have faith in the vision of Roberts and wholeheartedly think he can deliver. But as i said in the same post, typing out "those people who have faith in the vision of Chris Roberts and wholeheartedly think he can deliver" every single time i want to refer to that group of people can get a bit tiring, so it gets condensed down to faithful. If you can think of something that means the same and is less offensive in your eyes, i'd be happy to hear it.
I lived in Edinburgh for 10 years but to be honest what with lockdown and some time having passed, I wouldn't be confident what is still there and what isn't, or what is good or bad now.
I imagine the popular places are still popular, the Grassmarket for some good (tourist) pubs, Royal Mile for tartan whisky and shortbread, The Queens Arms on Frederick street is just a right good place for food and drink. Avoid Lothian Road and Leith Walk if possible late at night.
National Museum of Scotland is great, and free, and so is the Scottish National Portrait Gallery, one at each end of the city centre which is quite useful. Right in the middle of the city centre is the Scottish National Gallery off Princes Street.
Pubs. Pubs everywhere. Go to Scotland, drink.
Narrative shifts are etched across headstones everywhere in the MMO graveyard. Star Citizen won't be any different.
Although I'd guess it'd be more in the small scale multiplayer game category, since 50 people a server does not an MMO make. The graveyard has a ton of those, too.
Although I'd guess it'd be more in the small scale multiplayer game category, since 50 people a server does not an MMO make. The graveyard has a ton of those, too.
He took in money based on the lies he told. For those of us who are skeptical, many of us believe the project would have died a long time ago if CIG (especially CR) hadn't lied.
They took money in bad faith by knowingly lying.
There is a word for this, can't quite remember it, its on the tip of my tongue...
Can CR deliver a decent game in the end thanks to the funding from backers? Maybe?
Does CR deserve to enrich himself and his family due to it? I'd say no way.
He's right though
He's right in that its not useful from the point of view of gameplay balance. But as I noted, that isn't the issue here. Its that they can, and have done, and will continue to change what they sold to backers, and where is the line drawn?
Could they, in theory, change the whole of SC into a strategy game? Would backers be ok if CIG responded to criticism with "Its ok, we said things were subject to change! No use bringing up statements from 6 years ago."
Rose street...I remember that place from doing the Tattoo back in 1978
I stepped in as a sidedrummer for the Scots DG's regimental pipe band for the duration of the Tattoo. My first (and only) experience of playing with the massed pipes and drums
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<<< Remembers the day when 50 people on a server was considered massive.
I can see your point...as much as I think you're labouring it a bit to inject non existent drama... but changing the flight model characteristics (a few numbers) of every ship in the game, not just the Ares rubbish, to reflect the current balancing isn't cheating anyone out of anything. Everyone wants their favourite new ship to be a good at everything god ship... which is what all the biatching from the Ares owners is all about...that's not how it works.
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That depends very much on how the crowd funding goes, but that's certainly one of our stretch goals.
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o7 - made me laugh!He's right though
And, indeed, let's please just forget everything we said
I can see your point...as much as I think you're labouring it a bit to inject non existent drama... but changing the flight model characteristics (a few numbers) of every ship in the game, not just the Ares rubbish, to reflect the current balancing isn't cheating anyone out of anything. Everyone wants their favourite new ship to be a good at everything god ship... which is what all the biatching from the Ares owners is all about...that's not how it works.
Then i misunderstood, i thought it was just the one ship, not all of them.
Nah, they change or adapt all the ship metrics...flight models, shield sizes, number of powerplants, coolers or shield gens, cargo capacity etc... to suit current game balance all the time. The changes are across the board although some ships need fine tuning or further adjustment to properly reflect their purpose in game. The Ares was always going to be a pig to fly...big capital ship killing weaponry, loads of ammunition? It wasn't ever going to be a dogfighter...which is what all the whining is about. The Ares owners wanted a god ship and they didn't get one...they got a ship that does exactly what it says on the tin.
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Just read this grumpy guy saying global changes nerfed stealth:
But I was never really clear how much it was in in the first place
But I was never really clear how much it was in in the first place
The first iteration of 'stealth mechanics' was to nerf everyones ship scanners to make the sneaky- beaky ship owners think they were suddenly all secret squirrel...unfortunately, the tactic of nerfing the scanners was quickly found out when folk mining in Prospectors could no longer find any rocks to mine, it was so bad that you could physically see the rocks out of the window before the scanner picked them up
Ci¬G have since un-nerfed the scanners and implemented some form of Tier 0 heat and EM signature masking stealth mechanic... but it's not that great or useful from what I can see.
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I played GemStone 3 on my parents Prodigy account -- you'd have more than 50 Empaths in the Square alone.
Oh man and when it opened up to AOL, the sheer amount of new players in the sewers fighting rats, all that combat info spam, all the crippled and downed players being dragged to safety, all the scrolling and lag...all for $6.99 an hour.
My parents had to have a very, very long conversation with me about my online gaming habits when they got their monthly bill.
Oh man and when it opened up to AOL, the sheer amount of new players in the sewers fighting rats, all that combat info spam, all the crippled and downed players being dragged to safety, all the scrolling and lag...all for $6.99 an hour.
My parents had to have a very, very long conversation with me about my online gaming habits when they got their monthly bill.
Thanks for the video, I now know why the bagpipes were regarded as a weapon of war rather than a musical instrumentRose street...I remember that place from doing the Tattoo back in 1978
I stepped in as a sidedrummer for the Scots DG's regimental pipe band for the duration of the Tattoo. My first (and only) experience of playing with the massed pipes and drums
At the risk of breaking forum rules, I am taking pre-orders for my ship being designed for when the modding toolset is delivered.
It boxes above it's weight...
Is that a Volvo?
Can't be, must be an Audi...I detected some four-spring-duck-technique in there
Can't be, must be an Audi...I detected some four-spring-duck-technique in there
ok........is it what happens when a daddy Volvo and mummy Audi love each other very much?