Can FDEV advise? Affects immediate plans --- thanks
Elite Dangerous: FSD Reward Issues [reModifications & Experimentals] Follow Up.
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Can still do it.. checked as of this morningCan FDEV advise? Affects immediate plans --- thanks
Yeah, I mean it's not like we are the customers who pay for the product they are selling or anything like that...
But as long as they can keep making money by selling ARX for paint jobs, why bother making sure the actual game works properly?
So all is good!
Now I didn't say that!! Your question is still very valid going forward. Who actually knows if they plan to stop that happening.
My advice is quickly try and get mass manager on the modules you own before someone decides they're gonna take that functionality away too. The way things are going I wouldn't put it past them. See the danger coming and take action even if it doesn't come you'll be safe.
If I'd known such a limitation was going to be placed on this CG's FSDs, I doubt I would have put the hours into contributing to the goal. And considering how rapidly the Alcor CG finished, the number of replies on the issue tracker and the number of replies here, it seems like many other CMDRs feel the same way.
Intended or otherwise, it feels like a bait and switch considering the zero communication that occurred. When you add that to the bugs that still plague the game, how much of a grind engineering is, it's just compounded disappointment.
Intended or otherwise, it feels like a bait and switch considering the zero communication that occurred. When you add that to the bugs that still plague the game, how much of a grind engineering is, it's just compounded disappointment.
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You're doing it wrong to begin with!
If this simile is accurate, then down with experimentals! Double engineering is more than enough!
Pizza with dips?
You're doing it wrong to begin with!
If this simile is accurate, then down with experimentals! Double engineering is more than enough!
There is a certain YouTuber whose videos express very well - if very rudely - the disappointment of many players with the way this game is handled, the way bugs are handled, the way the players' time is disrespected with tedious, repetitive, grinding "gameplay", the constant release of useless cosmetics to milk cash from, the community instead of fixing problems or adding value with new ships, guns, modules - then when they do try to release a new module through a CG they screw it up and further alienate the players...
I won't post the YouTuber's name or link, but it starts with Y and I'm sure everyone knows of whom I speak.
Yes, he exaggerates for comedic effect, but many of his points are valid and FDev would do well to swallow their pride, watch his videos and address the issues raised.
I won't post the YouTuber's name or link, but it starts with Y and I'm sure everyone knows of whom I speak.
Yes, he exaggerates for comedic effect, but many of his points are valid and FDev would do well to swallow their pride, watch his videos and address the issues raised.
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I know I'm risking a ban here right now but I have to confess.... I am a notorious double dipper.The ke
Pizza with dips?
You're doing it wrong to begin with!
If this simile is accurate, then down with experimentals! Double engineering is more than enough!
I think you've hit the nail on the head
I'm sure that if combat with missiles was even half as ubiquitous as making FSD jumps is, then that CG weapon module would have provoked the same reaction - it only flew under the radar because it was less salient overall. But it was still almost certainly a bug (intended changes aren't communicated via error messages).
I can understand that the dev team has been feeling a lot of pressure since Odyssey release, so I get the temptation to brush it off as an intentional change when that explanation makes no sense.
For my part, this bug itself is irritating, but not game breaking - it's the seemingly dishonest manner in which they tried to handle it, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Should they drop everything else to prioritize fixing this one? Absolutely not - we've already seen the complaints from players who don't realize that the art team can't help with the coding, when emotes were added, so taking the actual programmers off of the actual game-breaking issues would be a poor decision.
If I were in their shoes, I would have acknowledged that something isn't working as expected, explain that it is overshadowed by higher priority issues at the moment, and commit to fixing it when possible.
I don't know why they didn't follow the precedent set by the first double-engineered module, Liz Ryder's missile rack. That was double-engineered plus a pre-assigned experimental, which most of us probably assumed was unalterable. It turned out to be moddable after all, but nobody would have been surprised if Frontier had said "oops, sorry, we'll reset those and refund your mats".
But the 5A FSD's came without an experimental, inviting us to apply one. As did the new ones.
This could have been avoided by ensuring that every pre-engineered modue capable of taking an experimental should actually HAVE a locked-in one. And preferably not the "meta" for modules of that type.
In this case, maybe Deep Charge? Similar to Mass Manager in performance, but with more significant downsides. Or Thermal Spread, given how much heat these things can generate. Something moderately useful, and (the important bit) clearly stated from the outset.
But the 5A FSD's came without an experimental, inviting us to apply one. As did the new ones.
This could have been avoided by ensuring that every pre-engineered modue capable of taking an experimental should actually HAVE a locked-in one. And preferably not the "meta" for modules of that type.
In this case, maybe Deep Charge? Similar to Mass Manager in performance, but with more significant downsides. Or Thermal Spread, given how much heat these things can generate. Something moderately useful, and (the important bit) clearly stated from the outset.
I think you're a bit confused here. The server error is not true; it's a false error being thrown because there's no flavor text or UI in place to communicate that you can't apply experimentals to this new module.
Was thinking it's the item definition caused the error. Server try to apply the effect to a var but somehow these new FSD got only a constant int there then rejected with the error.
but anyway
Such diversity here.
I usually not dip my pizza. I'd rather have it neat, like my whiskey
I'd rather see a forum of people clamoring for a new update they want to play than a forum of people saying the game needs to be put back in the oven while questioning the chefs ability to cook.
What you're suggesting would take even more effort than implementing an actual message stating that the module cannot be modified - what motivation would FDev have to put in that extra effort to do it the wrong way?
It is, in fact, a real error
On the positive side, it looks like PC and console commanders are reunited. For a short time at least.
I never felt in opposition to PC CMDRs
Not everyone, but the whole Odyssey thing has PC and Console commanders arguing back and forth for days.
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