[HEAVY PROPOSAL] Another mode more like a MMO, best MP experience...with subscription
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54 Votes, 90% NO....
This is better than the last vote for the very same desire.....
Take a dollar, buy a clue....
NO.
This is better than the last vote for the very same desire.....
Take a dollar, buy a clue....
NO.
I can't believe I actually voted. I feel so dirty.
MorkFromOrk
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You mean apart from the ones that said yes? Also, there was a comment in there asking why the original thread hadn't been made into a poll in the first place. OP is just responding to that.
Note when you say "everyone (EVERYONE) pretty much said they wouldn't' then you might find that not everyone (EVERYONE) actually said no to it so you just doubled up on the everyone for no reason.
I voted yes providing it was optional and did not affect the ability to play in any other mode as per what the OP has said.
Allow me to correct this a little.
The game is currently designed so that you (the player) are the instance, not a region of space. Taking on that model then the hosting server would become the owner of the island groups and therefore you wouldn't need as many servers as you think. If a typical high end server could host 5K players simultaneously then perhaps you would load them up to 3K to allow friends / groups to migrate together. If the number of players online (via subscription model) was 100K players then you would need 20 servers to host them all with some spare for HA / player migration. That's considerably cheaper than £4 million / month
The main cost for running an MMO comes from staff costs, not the BW / Servers ... you can buy leased lines for not that much : 100Mb costs £390pm so a 1Gb line wouldn't be far off.
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Re the OP : If FD can nail the P2P model then the topic is moot, but if they couldn't and a subscription / netcode change was required I would have to speak to FD about a special arrangement for my wife and I. I did ask FD repeatedly during the KS campaign about this and was told no which was why I upped my pledge somewhat. (I estimated the cost for a 10 years subscription * 2 and added that to my pledge
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The total number of systems is not relevant.
There is no point to have servers containing billions of systems without any players in it.
The number of players and how they are spread out over systems are the variables on which the math should be based.
Well I did say 'pretty much' since there was a small minority (of which I quickly gathered you were one), the poll is pretty much confirming that. It ain't 50/50.
I didn't know it had all that ?
Elite has been, from the beginning, a single player game with co-operative game play. It has been raked over, pummeled, beaten, argued about, polled over, flamed about and the outcome is always the same. Elite is not other games.
This is to be a game about a single pilot (you) blazing your own way across space. No guilds, no player owned sections of space, no groups of people blocking of other players getting to where they want to go. That was Eve. If that is what you want, feel free to return there. If you want more control over massive capitol ships and their battles, first person combat, and super "bling" ships, Star Citizen may be your best bet.
If you want to play a Space sim where you don't have to play based on someone else's schedule, welcome to Elite and enjoy your stay.
I have been waiting for this game for 30 years. There was nothing like the original then, and there is nothing like the new one now. I get to do what I want, how I want, WHEN I want, and experience it exactly how I feel it should be.
**Hangs head in shame as I go off to find a bottle of JD**
Let's see how this poll goes when more people have voted. Up to now it's 65 vs. 11 vs. 1 (so 84% against subscription and MMO). And I think the result later may be more or less the same.
MorkFromOrk
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The game's appeal relies heavily on player-driven clans (called organisations or for short, orgs) and their alliances and rivalries. So exactly the opposite from Elite Dangerous.
Allow me to correct this a little.
The game is currently designed so that you (the player) are the instance, not a region of space. Taking on that model then the hosting server would become the owner of the island groups and therefore you wouldn't need as many servers as you think. If a typical high end server could host 5K players simultaneously then perhaps you would load them up to 3K to allow friends / groups to migrate together. If the number of players online (via subscription model) was 100K players then you would need 20 servers to host them all with some spare for HA / player migration. That's considerably cheaper than £4 million / month
The main cost for running an MMO comes from staff costs, not the BW / Servers ... you can buy leased lines for not that much : 100Mb costs £390pm so a 1Gb line wouldn't be far off.
Allow me to correct your correction
I was describing the imagined setup if the game had true MMO features and full realtime persistence everywhere at once like most MMOs. FD went for the p2p model for the reasons you list and it makes perfect sense logically and financially which is why I don't think we need a subscription class if FD are offering most of what OP wants already (and have not yet finished).
Let FD release the game first as they have their idea to deliver and we haven't seen their finished version yet. I just know they are keeping the best stuff back for the release, so patience Commanders. You can Pillory them if they fail and then we can all pay subs to keep the game alive if they need our help that badly
Please dear god no.
