Hmm... yeah, There's nothing like that currently. Would be nice. Could be a bit OP though. The NPC AI isn't exactly the brightest tool in the shed. Could also be nasty for that running around bases experience, shooting enemies, then out of nowhere you're dead, thanks to an NPC sniper. As I understand, in high CZ, the NPC snipers can be nasty enough as it is. Giving them a single shot high powered weapon might be too much.
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Hmm... yeah, There's nothing like that currently. Would be nice. Could be a bit OP though. The NPC AI isn't exactly the brightest tool in the shed. Could also be nasty for that running around bases experience, shooting enemies, then out of nowhere you're dead, thanks to an NPC sniper. As I understand, in high CZ, the NPC snipers can be nasty enough as it is. Giving them a single shot high powered weapon might be too much.
Yeah, i get the feeling fully upgrading is overkill for the current level of challenge. But if you don't, then you are limited in how much engineering you can do.
Strafing left or right is your friend, the NPCs never lead their shots. Even from fairly close range, the only NPCs that can hit you reliably are those with laser weapons, but those seem to be the rarest NPC loadouts anyway.
There are various ways to bring the community together.
Offer them freebies, that usually works
They already did that by necro'ing the Winking Cat character. I'm sorry to say I wonder if that would've come along if Odyssey had received a warmer welcome.Offer them freebies, that usually works
Hmm... i didn't even know it was an older character or that they were dead.
Someone posted the Galnet post history in another thread, there were a few stories on the Winking Cat a few years ago and he/she didn't resurface until late last year.
Edit: The last mention before October 2021 was August 31st, 2019.
It wouldn't take that many changes to be a lot better than it is.
I also want a good FPS...that is simultaneously a good fantasy space flight simulator, that is simultaneously a good mercantile game, that is simultaneously a passable 1:1 scale replica of the galaxy. What's less work, adding the all of that stuff to a dedicated tactical shooter, or tweaking a few mechanisms of EDO? Knowing Frontier, probably the former, but I can dream!
Colonia unlock is easier. My alt CMDR is there now. The material requirements are
10 digital designs
10 manufacturing instructions
10 cocktail/culinary recipes
10 faction associates.
Jump on one of the carriers heading out that way, engineer and travel back. Advisable to take as many materials to upgrade and modify the suits and weapons as finding the materials in the bubble is easier.
I have given away all the spare recipes but still have 23 digital designs and 24 faction associates to donate to CMDRs that need them. My alt also has 15 opinion polls and 21 smear campaign plans, and even if I save for unlocking Kit and Oden, still leaves 5 + 13 to donate. Whenever I find the really useful materials I pick them up as they can be passed on.
Steve 07.
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That does look more reasonable thanks - but I have to say... out of all the useless rubbish we're collecting in terms of mats, could FDev not have picked a different unlock than.... Manufacturing Instructions? And everything in batches of 10. What an explosion of creativity.
And just logged in to my main:
12 Recipes*
49 digital designs
6 Faction associates*
3 opinion polls
38 smear campaign plans
* Any I had when my alt headed to Colonia a couple of months ago I passed over. These have acquired in two months. I pass on opinion polls before I manage to get too many.
My understanding of the Colonia engineer unlock was that they wanted it to be different to the bubble. The materials are easier, getting there is the big unlock requirement. All in all, the materials required are not that bad, even the manufacturing instructions. So, you have to collect modestly hard to find items or a modestly valuable one. I am not going to complain, especially regarding settlement defence plans.
Steve 07
12 Recipes*
49 digital designs
6 Faction associates*
3 opinion polls
38 smear campaign plans
* Any I had when my alt headed to Colonia a couple of months ago I passed over. These have acquired in two months. I pass on opinion polls before I manage to get too many.
My understanding of the Colonia engineer unlock was that they wanted it to be different to the bubble. The materials are easier, getting there is the big unlock requirement. All in all, the materials required are not that bad, even the manufacturing instructions. So, you have to collect modestly hard to find items or a modestly valuable one. I am not going to complain, especially regarding settlement defence plans.
Steve 07
I found quite a few in my travels around the periphery of the bubble. Maybe give that a try?
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You mean a buffed one?
But yeah as I said I'll go on another tour after tomorrow maybe to see what I can find. I'm only going to pick guns now that are G3'd with any mods attached. As I otherwise already have what I really need for now.Deleted member 182079
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Oh my snide remark wasn't about the MI being difficult to obtain (although right now I need just one more to G4 my Aphelion, and of course the game now isn't spawning any missions with one as a reward, never mind coming across them in the wild), just that they're already required for so many other recipes it just feels like a weird choice to use as an unlock requirement as well now. It's not as if the game wasn't flush with completely useless items already.And just logged in to my main:
12 Recipes*
49 digital designs
6 Faction associates*
3 opinion polls
38 smear campaign plans
* Any I had when my alt headed to Colonia a couple of months ago I passed over. These have acquired in two months. I pass on opinion polls before I manage to get too many.
My understanding of the Colonia engineer unlock was that they wanted it to be different to the bubble. The materials are easier, getting there is the big unlock requirement. All in all, the materials required are not that bad, even the manufacturing instructions. So, you have to collect modestly hard to find items or a modestly valuable one. I am not going to complain, especially regarding settlement defence plans.
Steve 07
Can I ask you though (and please don't take this the wrong way) - how much did you have to play/grind to get those items, say in terms of hours and time spent in-game solely on gathering these? I admit I haven't actively seeked out OP/SC etc but 38... that's a lot and apparently surplus to requirement so you would've gotten a lot more already? I spend a fair bit of time on ship stuff still so if you're a full time on-foot player then I can understand at least.
I've been calling for an Oppressor buff since I got my hands on it shortly after Odyssey launched:
What is the Point of Manticore’s Oppressor?
Edit 4.22.2022 For those of you just arriving in this thread, I created an interactive spreadsheet calculator that compares the Oppressor to all of the other weapons in Odyssey for a better visual representation for why it needs a buff (Shoutouts to De_Toqueville and the folks behind the...
TLDR: Increase projectile velocity, maybe slight damage buff (or headshot multiplier increase) if we're feeling generous. The Oppressor's primary issue is applying damage - you have to aim a good 30-45 degrees off a sidestepping target from ten paces away just to hit them and track them long enough to secure the kill, assuming they don't change direction before then (which they will do).
I don't think it's massively OP - probably more regular OP - but the Executioner is definitely in need of a rework for it to fill a "designated marksman rifle" role. A 45 mph neon grapefruit isn't that useful for hitting distant targets.
Frankly, weapon ranges in general need to be increased...
I feel like EDO could learn a few things from Halo Infinite regarding TTK - not too long, not too short. It's decent when you get accustomed to it (and you don't experience desync - it's a major problem over there).
And with the right combination of mods and the Power of Relogski
you can collapse the Intimidator's pellet spread into a single bolt and oneshot distant enemies - making the Intimidator a better Executioner than the Executioner!...I should probably make a bug report about that.
One of my largest concerns about the current sandbox - the L-6 makes EDO play more like Elite Dangerous: Rocket Launcher Simulator. I'd like to see its magazine reduced to 1 and have a longer firing delay between shots when upgraded with the Magazine Size mod.
Id argue the majority of people playing Elite play it because they enjoy space sims as its a fairly niche game. Therefore that remainder of people that are not in either group is fairly small. If the primary feature of a brand new expansion is only really catering towards a small proportion of the community, then surely the priorities are not straight. If they made a decent shooter then it would cater to a much wider audience, but they didn't.
So, those who do enjoy the expansion are unimportant in your reckoning? OK.
i think the shield/armor idea is not bad, but the execution is.
the "wrong" weapon should be a little less useful compared to the "correct", not outright useless like it is now.
maybe something like 25-50% damage reduction
until that changes, it´s 2 executioners with increased mag and stowed reload.
not fun to play, but gets the job done
the "wrong" weapon should be a little less useful compared to the "correct", not outright useless like it is now.
maybe something like 25-50% damage reduction
until that changes, it´s 2 executioners with increased mag and stowed reload.
not fun to play, but gets the job done
Well, Frontier no doubt know what players are doing in their game and adjust their priorities to match.
But surely FD know what they are doing, or else it wouldn't be successful as an expansion, bugs aside - for example the console players are incredibly upset at not knowing when they are getting it. Maybe they are a niche group though by your description?