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Probably the biggest ED streamer that moved mainly over to SC.

He did go back to ED for Odyssey and streamed that for a little while.
You sure? I've never heard of this guy.
Bog didn't move "from" Elite "mainly over" to SC, he moved from Elite to NMS. He's since added more games, including back to Elite (which he didn't stream in 2020), to his playing and streaming list.

His stats can be seen on Sullygnome.

Why do people invent scenarios that don't exist to satisfy their tribalism?
 
A Star Citizen 2022 prediction:

  • Ci¬G will go radio silent until April after 3 months of company restructuring and departmental development budget cuts disguised under the heading of 'Planning week'
  • 3.16.1 release will be delayed until at least February or March with more planned 3.16 and further planned gameplay content being removed or delayed until 3.18 or later
  • A much depleted 3.17 patch will be delayed until Q3, 3.18 won't appear until late Q4 at the earliest or realistically, Q1/Q2 next year
  • Server meshing won't appear this year in any substantial form due to 'technical reasons'
  • Pyro won't appear this year for 'technical' reasons
  • Ship sales and marketing strategies will ramp up accordingly with game development slowing down even more
  • Sqn 42 won't appear in any form, whether it be a vertical slice or any firm announcement of further progress in it's development this year


Call it a hunch :)

Aww man, the Prediction Awards are gonna be great this year 😁

(I've got a hunch you're gonna be alright ;))
 
Of course I'm sure.

Who would you say is the biggest streamer that used to only stream ED that now mainly streams SC?

Maybe enderprise? Havent seen him stream elite at all lately, but have not paid that much attention.
Looking at Sullygnome's stats, Malic_VR is Elite's biggest streamer and has been for the past three years.
 
The biggest regular content creator for both Elite and Star Citizen would be Scott Manley, so let's see what he has to say...

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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e76qJGzbiI0&lc=Ugw0oCCTNysf6jzSAtd4AaABAg


Welp.
 
Looking at Sullygnome's stats, Malic_VR is Elite's biggest streamer and has been for the past three years.

That would have been my guess.

But I am talking about the biggest mainly ED streamer that is now a mainly an SC streamer.

I look forward to you spending your free time scouring sullygnome to prove me wrong!

Would most likely be someone I havent heard of!
 
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Bog didn't move "from" Elite "mainly over" to SC, he moved from Elite to NMS. He's since added more games, including back to Elite (which he didn't stream in 2020), to his playing and streaming list.

His stats can be seen on Sullygnome.

Why do people invent scenarios that don't exist to satisfy their tribalism?

lol

Bog streamed elite (for the most part) and does not anymore.

Bog streams star citizen now (for the most part).

He also played a bunch of Dual Universe, has been playing Final Fantasy.

I dont need to look up his stats on anything, I have been watching him for years.

Remember when he used to be in the Sovereignty with DJ Truthsayer?

Slow your roll cowboy, jeez.
 
But the guys who stop playing (like the above fella), the big spenders who flip within months and start calling SC a scam, the regular trail of concierge-types traipsing into the refund sub (like this guy just today).

Was just reading that thread

I can help you find a buyer, depending whats on it you might be able to get at least some of your cash back.
Generally under 1K is considered a small account. A few 20k+ accounts just sold so buyers might be tapped out.

A few 20k accounts just sold???

Ok, this doesn't hurt CIG, at least directly, since they already got their money. I'm also not sure its old players offloading, new players buying ships to get into SC or older players filling out their hangars via the grey market.

Really, this sort of thing looks quite shady to me.
 
CIG raising half a billion, via what is universally agreed to be a buggy and incomplete alpha, is a striking story my friend. You don't need to be into the niche accountancy stuff. It's just a great big brassy tale ;)

We've had enough hints now that whale purchases, rather than sheer volume of new backers, are the primary driver of that cash.

So whales are part of the story. New whales are part of the story. (And if you're gonna raise your eyebrows every time I mention the latest rapid demi-concierge, then you're gonna need a weekly round of botox just to lower them again ;))

Because flagging those guys isn't about shaming them. It's about tracing a second part of SC's mystique: Are its mammoth sales driven primarily by current pleasure with the alpha, or by future dreams of a more finished product?

It can be a mixture of the two. But the guys who stop playing (like the above fella), the big spenders who flip within months and start calling SC a scam, the regular trail of concierge-types traipsing into the refund sub (like this guy just today). They all lend some weight towards the second scenario.

And if SC never makes it to its various promised lands, that's kinda important. That's a lotta guys (doubtless unwisely), throwing money at an alpha because its pretty, or because it's garlanded in dev talk of future advances. Or because gamer's are just really bad at judging game dev ;)

Bottom line is though: That would be a lot of guys who essentially got conned. And that does feel kinda important. (Not terrorism tier important, I'll grant you. But there are other tiers of importance out there ;))
Discussing Ci¬G's finances...fine. All the other private spending is none of your business (nor mine), full stop. I'm here to discuss the game, or lack of it, poke ridicule at Chris Roberts and have a rant at the insane development and mismanagement continually evident in the project.
Poking fun or making a deliberate point on what any private individual likes to spend on pixel spaceships...I can't see the public interest factor at all outside of creating or perpetuating a witch hunting 'them and us' mentality. Am I therefore one of 'them'? ...Since having spent a fair bit on the project, I can't possibly be one of the us's 🤷‍♂️
 
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Discussing Ci¬G's finances...fine. All the other private spending is none of your business (nor mine), full stop. I'm here to discuss the game, or lack of it, poke ridicule at Chris Roberts and have a rant at the insane develoment and mismanagement continually evident in the project.
Poking fun or making a deliberate point on what any private individual likes to spend on pixel spaceships...I can't see the public interest factor at all outside of creating or perpetuating a witch hunting 'them and us' mentality. Am I therefore one of 'them'? ...Since having spent a fair bit on the project, I can't possibly be one of the us's 🤷‍♂️

Sorry Mole, i'll disagree. People who spend a few hundred.. well, their life. People who spend thousands? Well, if it was a released product, i'd raise an eyebrow or two, but ok... for an alpha... i need a third eyebrow. Those who are in for tens of thousands, i'm going to damn well laugh long and hard at them, even if it was a released game. Not just SC, but WoT or WoW or whatever.
 

Viajero

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I think having an insight of backer spending habits and motivations is crucial to well understand CIG’s abuse. Especially when said backers willingly make that information widely shared and public in Spectrum, Reddit etc even writing long posts themselves about it, be it praising CIG, ranting or refunding.
 
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I think having an insight of backer spending habits is crucial to well understand CIG’s abuse. Especially when said backers willingly make that information widely shared and public even writing long posts themselves about it be it praising CIG, ranting or refunding.
No...it isn't. It's curtain twitching at it's very worst.

Let me ask you this. Considering how much I've spent on the project overall, not ignoring that I refunded my first account and how vehemently I criticise the project, it's marketing and it's mismanagement and always have done despite still having a fair sized financial stake in the project... do you class me as a 'Them' or an 'Us'? ;)
 
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Viajero

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No...it isn't. It's curtain twitching at it's very worst.

Let me ask you this. Considering how much I've spent on the project overall, and how vehemently I criticise the project, it's marketing and it's mismanagement... do you class me as being of one group or t'other? ;)
I don’t class you as anything. Much like those other posts your SC spending habits and motivations are also widely available and public and are also a crucial contribution to better understand CIG abuse.
 
I don’t class you as anything. Much like those other posts your SC spending habits and motivations are also widely available and public and are also a crucial contribution to better understand CIG abuse.
I don't feel abused in the slightest, for you to assume of anyone buying onto the project as being 'abused' is staggeringly arrogant 🤷‍♂️
 
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Viajero

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I don't feel abused in the slightest, for you to assume that for anyone buying onto the project as being 'abused' is staggeringly arrogant 🤷‍♂️
I didn’t suggest people spending money with CIG have to feel abused. I suspect some do, and some don’t 🤷‍♂️ . I do think SC is abusing the market though, to the point where discussing the potential of fraud can be relevant.
 
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