Essential Exhibit Animals Meta-Wishlist 3: And Possibly Final
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It's already in the top 5, and actually ranks as 4th when you split up the Top 3. That's already quite high in the listing
So, here's my list:
Nothing new for the list as far as I can see, but since I don't really care about many of the exhibit animals too much, I chose the ones that would honestly excite me the most, which happens to be reptiles over amphibians or invertebrates.
- Red-Footed Tortoise
- Alligator Snapping Turtle
- Frill-Necked Lizard
- King Cobra
- Reticulated Python
- Panther Chameleon
- Emerald Tree Boa
- Plumed Basilisk
- Leopard Gecko
- Black Mamba
Nothing new for the list as far as I can see, but since I don't really care about many of the exhibit animals too much, I chose the ones that would honestly excite me the most, which happens to be reptiles over amphibians or invertebrates.
1. Elephant Shrew
2. Gaboon Viper
3. Aesculapian Snake
4. Tuatara
5. Bearded Dragon
6. Axolotl
7. Alpine Newt
8. Lord Howe Island Stick Insect
9. Hercules Beetle
10. Coconut Crab
2. Gaboon Viper
3. Aesculapian Snake
4. Tuatara
5. Bearded Dragon
6. Axolotl
7. Alpine Newt
8. Lord Howe Island Stick Insect
9. Hercules Beetle
10. Coconut Crab
Hi there!
Thank you for the invitation @ReptoMin . Here's my list:
1. Giant Girdled Lizard
2. Thorny Devil/Moloch
3. Northern caiman lizard
4. Frilled/Frill Necked Lizard
5. Tokay Gecko
6. Argentine Black-and-White Tegu
7. Mexican alligator lizard
8. Plumed Basilisk
9. Red-eyed crocodile skink
10. Emerald Tree Boa
Thank you for the invitation @ReptoMin . Here's my list:
1. Giant Girdled Lizard
2. Thorny Devil/Moloch
3. Northern caiman lizard
4. Frilled/Frill Necked Lizard
5. Tokay Gecko
6. Argentine Black-and-White Tegu
7. Mexican alligator lizard
8. Plumed Basilisk
9. Red-eyed crocodile skink
10. Emerald Tree Boa
1. Panther Chameleon
2. Surinam Toad
3. Leachie Gecko
4. False Map Turtle
5. Death-feigning Beetle
6. Giant Weta(or any weta to be honest)
7. Oriental Fire Bellied Toad
8. Reticulated Python
9. Rhinoceros Beetle
10. Thorny Devil
2. Surinam Toad
3. Leachie Gecko
4. False Map Turtle
5. Death-feigning Beetle
6. Giant Weta(or any weta to be honest)
7. Oriental Fire Bellied Toad
8. Reticulated Python
9. Rhinoceros Beetle
10. Thorny Devil
- King Cobra
- Panther Chameleon
- Reticulated Python
- Philippine Sailfin Lizard
- Grand Cayman Blue Iguana
- Inland Taipan
- Pig Nosed Turtle
- Green Anaconda
- Plumed Basilisk
- Frilled Neck Lizard
Now that we have a new exhibit mammal request, I would like to talk about exhibit mammals and how I approach each case as they are submitted.
The requirement for an exhibit mammal to be accepted on this thread is if they meet all the following conditions:
1) Does The Game's Current Exhibits Meet The Minimum Space Requirement?
Couldn’t find anything on Elephant Shrew minimum space requirements on the Internet, but judging by pictures of real zoo enclosures, they can be kept in displays much smaller than the ones in the game, therefore suitable. Even the so-called Giant Elephant Shrews can be kept in exhibits around the size or smaller than 16 m^2.
https://www.zoochat.com/community/m...d-eared-elephant-shrew-exhibit-011218.431049/
https://www.zoochat.com/community/m...-b-r-elephant-shrew-and-harvest-mouse.561604/
https://zooinstitutes.com/exhibits/450.html
2) Can They Be Housed In Glass Exhibits In Real Life?
Yes, they can.
https://www.zoochat.com/community/media/small-mammal-house-elephant-shrew.116387/
https://www.zoochat.com/community/media/bronx-mouse-house-black-rufous-elephant-shrew.561605/
https://www.zoochat.com/community/m...xhibit-at-wilhelma-stuttgart-02-09-10.124437/
https://www.zoochat.com/community/media/black-and-rufous-elephant-shrew-exhibit-2021-06-12.535946/
3) Are Closed Top Glass Exhibits A Requirement In Most Cases?
There are many examples of closed top glass exhibits, but not an absolute necessity.
https://www.zoochat.com/community/m...e-forest-giant-elephant-shrew-exhibit.231620/
https://zooinstitutes.com/exhibits/2542.html
4) Is The Animal Too Active Animation and Behaviourwise For The Current Exhibit System Or Is There A Possible Workaround?
Somewhat of a problem. Elephant Shrews are very active animals overall and spend a lot of time outside burrows, foraging actively. This might pose a problem with looped animations, as the nature of activity in this case is different to the repetitive nature of Turtles swimming against glass or Scarab Beetles rolling dung. Is there a workaround like the cross-section type glass exhibits possible for Naked Mole Rats and Etruscan Shrews? Not really.
Since the Elephant Shrews appear to fail the 4th question, as well as the 3rd question to an extent, I am leaning towards not including them in this iteration of the list, however I’m not entirely against the idea, particularly because I am not an expert on animating and programming, therefore would love to hear what the community has to say on the matter, especially ones that are experienced and knowledgeable on the subject. Flexibility in this case is important, as @random goat's Habitat Animals Meta-Wishlist also doesn’t accept these animals. If both threads exclude Small Mammals, then that leaves no destination for forum users to ask for such an iconic category of animals in zoos. Perhaps these questions will soon be irrelevant as Frontier might reveal where and how these animals can be added to the game, maybe as a third category other than habitat and glass exhibits. However, for now we need to decide as a community on where to include them, so that the real demand for these animals can be properly communicated.
From what was officially stated about mammals and birds as exhibit animals, it seems like they're simply out of luck and won't really be addable to the game. I think that's fine, not everything's going to be in this game and there's only a few mammals and birds that are stationary enough to fit as exhibit animals anyways.
And besides, the mammals most people care about are ones that are longer than half a meter anyways. Elephants are always going to get more attention than elephant shrews.
I don't think that response is very definitive. It is simply stated that there are reptiles and invertebrates in the exhibit roster at launch. As for the question itself, that reddit user asking for exhibit elephants is either only acquainted with the exhibit and mini exhibit definitions from the 3rd Zoo Tycoon game by Frontier and unaware of the new names for large and small enclosures in the new game, which are habitat and exhibit, or they are simply trolling.
That is obviously the case for megafauna. Therefore the more relevant question would be how would small mammals compare with glass exhibit invertebrates, amphibians and reptiles in terms of appeal? The answer to that question would give us a better perspective.
Personally I think small mammals and small mammal houses are an important component of zoos and the game would definitely benefit from having them one way or another.
I have created a new thread to move this discussion there and keep the Meta-Wishlist thread cleaner:
Small Mammals As Exhibit Animals: Do You Think It's Possible?
Wanted to move this discussion over here to keep the Exhibit Animals Meta-Wishlist cleaner. My main question for the community is: Do you think behaviourally active small mammals are technically possible for exhibits from an animation standpoint, even with the new non-stationary looped...
All added except for the Golden Toad and Elephant Shrew.
@Inoceramus addition of the Elephant Shrew is delayed, waiting for the result of the discussion.
@Kolea the Golden Toad (Incilius periglenes) is classified as Extinct (EX) by the IUCN, not Extinct in the Wild (EW). Therefore I couldn't add it, unless the species you are asking for is the Kihansi Spray Toad (Nectophrynoides asperginis).
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My list
1. Coral snake
2. Green anaconda
3. Frizzled lizard
4. Japanese giant salamander
5. King cobra
6. Panther chameleon
7. Hercules beetle
8. New Zealand giant wetta
9. Morpho butterfly
10. Reticulares python
Butterflies would fit very well in a flying pack with birds. It would be nice a butterfly Green House where visitors could get in and see a bunch of species.
Another thing are bigger and customizable terrariums for Big snakes
1. Coral snake
2. Green anaconda
3. Frizzled lizard
4. Japanese giant salamander
5. King cobra
6. Panther chameleon
7. Hercules beetle
8. New Zealand giant wetta
9. Morpho butterfly
10. Reticulares python
Butterflies would fit very well in a flying pack with birds. It would be nice a butterfly Green House where visitors could get in and see a bunch of species.
Another thing are bigger and customizable terrariums for Big snakes
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1. Southern Grasshopper Mouse
2. Pygmy Marmosets
3. Rubber Boa
4. Tremblay's salamander (Considered putting Silvery Salamander here, since both are triploid hybrids of the same species' and the differences are driven by where the thirs chromosome set came from)
5. Bombardier Beetle
6. Gooty Sapphire Ornmental Tarantuala. (This is an arboreal species, so a whole 'nother ball game compared to other tarantualas.)
7. Giant Camel Spider (Not actually a spider, and 3 inch/ 7.62 cm at the most)
8. Rough Skinned Newt
9. Ant or termite
10. Naked Mole Rat
2. Pygmy Marmosets
3. Rubber Boa
4. Tremblay's salamander (Considered putting Silvery Salamander here, since both are triploid hybrids of the same species' and the differences are driven by where the thirs chromosome set came from)
5. Bombardier Beetle
6. Gooty Sapphire Ornmental Tarantuala. (This is an arboreal species, so a whole 'nother ball game compared to other tarantualas.)
7. Giant Camel Spider (Not actually a spider, and 3 inch/ 7.62 cm at the most)
8. Rough Skinned Newt
9. Ant or termite
10. Naked Mole Rat
Nice list! But you might want to replace the first two with other animals, as the 1st one, Southern Grasshopper Mouse is likely going to be rejected depending on the discussion going on here. The 2nd one, Pygmy Marmoset is already accepted as a Habitat Animal by random goat, and you can post it there.
No problem with Naked Mole Rat, as the unique cross-section type exhibits are accepted.
6. Frilled Neck Lizard
7. Panther Chameleon
8. San Francisco Garter Snake
9. Atlas Moth
10. Plumed Basilisk
All added except for the Southern Grasshopper Mouse and Pygmy Marmoset. The 1st one is too active for the current Exhibit System and will probably be off-category for this thread depending on the discussion on the other thread. I'll give it a few days for possible counter arguments on that discussion thread. The 2nd one is a Habitat Animal accepted by random goat. I would recommend you to definitely swap the 2nd one with something else, but you can wait on the 1st one's decision if you wish.
@Faramburu I added the "Frizzled Lizard" to the Frilled Lizard row, thinking this was the species you were referring to. If I'm wrong please let me know.
@Ounze I added your "Ant or Termite" choice to the Mound-Building Termite row, if you think they should be added to the Leafcutter Ant row instead, please let me know.
I think there are several species, but you can consider it to be that one.