Great run a cg mining event when 2/3 of minig tools are totaly bugt^

RedBaron111

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Today after a long wile i used my "boss miner" (full rolld t 10 look inara ) and went mining.

1. Mining is insane bugt (dos no 1 test the tash if u run an update) i dont even know whare 2 start (best @ dudes in charge make a 1:1 kopy of my ship and go mining) it is so fun that after 1h u realy want 2 go kill coders^^ or swimm with sharks i youst go buy list stile coz i dont have all day.

Limpets self destruct wile u fire them on astroids (prospect)

Limpets freeze in mid air ore flie with loot around the ship not getting loot in the ship (and yes i have door open)

same with getting loot from killd ships (mats often go away faster then the dam things bring them 2 u)

the rocket 2 split astroids (break them up) dont realy work on the t 10 no matter what slot u have them in ! On some slots they explode if u fire them instand

loot from astroids dos not sporn propper example using the minglazer loot sporns often behind other astroid so it kills ur lipit going 2 them

movement of ur ship is not propper next 2 astroid example lifting ship with game pad or Hotas One Joystick

i give up test it with x box s (so manny more)

I start 2 understand now the reason game is dead on xbox the fun of game play in mining atm = ripping out ur nails ^^

I realy dont understand that u guys dont test stuff like that and then run an cg event and suprise have slats like this :

FORTSCHRITT
Stufe 1/5
MITWIRKENDE
1,012
BEITRÄGE
237,547/1,600,000 (14.85%)
ZEIT ÜBRIG
3D 5H 2M

@Quote inara

This if like killing ur own game ^^

Hope dies last plz fix it
 

Horse372

Horse372
I run a mining beluga set up for all mining types and i would offer the following on some of the issues you seem to be having op:

- Prospector limpets not deploying- try slowing down. If you're going too fast when you launch them your ship will hit and destroy them on launch

- Limpets suiciding and fragments stuck on the asteroid (laser mining) - watch where you mine from relative to the spin of the asteroid. Bottoms and tops seem to work best for me and try to stay in one spot while laser mining. If you do this all the fragments will be thrown away from the mother asteroid, stay relatively together, and your limpets will be safer. Limpets also seem to have a tendency to get stuck/ lost/ confused at the edge of their range so try to keep them close by staying in the cloud of fragments. Surface and subsurface deposits are sometime in a bad spots so you have to decide whether it's worth possibly losing a limpet (or 3) to get at those fragments.

- loot materials from ship kills are on a timer but it you should have time to deploy a collector you just need to stick around which can be a problem if you have another ship on you.

- i cant speak to how the t-10 handles or hardpoint placement on them as I haven't flown one but just make sure you're using seismic charges for cores and displacement missiles for subsurface deposits. i would think that if you couldn't place a seismic charger launcher on a t-10 it would have been mentioned by someone.

and finally yes slow cg with limited rewards is slow (if I translated that correctly).

Hope that helps some o7
 

RedBaron111

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thx 4 the hints

2 i guess if u look up game stats on pc (steam like 5000-6000 players) on x-box 200-250 players totaly dead even posts 4 the game on xbox (group search) that will explayn no 1 postes bugs like that and wizh the new cheat (mod) out on x-box most ppl dont realy farm so no 1 takes stuf like that 2 forums anymore.

if i see videos of pc players the game looks like it is mostly working on xbox it feels like 2/3 are broke 2 years ago example i posted a list what is broken (@support) and most of it is broken the same way so it never realy got fixt example (oarange sidewiper error) or balance breaking all the time in some missions u cant kill a ship coz it restors shields faster then u can take them down and realy retardet stuff what gos on in the game so no 1 realy cares anymore i guess they let consols die so the can say well we only fokus on pc now

at least that is the way they behave atm + more ppl leaf coz they get sick of the trash coding (bugs) i guess mining will work better with the ships all use on idiot tube but test it with t 10 on xbox u be suprised^^

the way i see it is buy in game stuff 2 give us $$ and dont play if u dont like it we dont care ^
 

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Well, we're sorry to see you go. Best of luck to you in the other games you play. Have a good day.
 

CaptKarel

CaptKarel
@Red Baron I am sorry to hear about you misfortune while playing ED on xbox.

Some background and baselines:
I have been playing ED for almost two years now and have two accounts on xbox. Consider me a noob.
I play almost every evening at least an hour or two, on weekends I will play at lot more, some times 6 to 8 hours total for the weekend.
I belong to a medium size squadron and we have a good sized BGS, which is constantly expanding and need attention most of the time to keep our faction on top.

Regarding bugs, I hardly experience bugs and very rarely game braking issues. We parttake in a very wide spectrum of activities, from combat to trading, CG, and mining. We also work together doing wing missions, with very very few problems. Occasionally I experience a crash or loss of connection, but this only happens at most once or twice a month. Even instancing is rarely a problem. I have friends in the UK, Canada, and the US, never had a problem getting together for group activities, wars, BGS or wing missions. We also play mostly in open.

I agree there is not a lot of players visible on xbox, but that may not be a bad thing.
I also agree there are issues, but none that I know that make me not want to play the game.
I also agree it is one of the most complicated games I have played, and I have been playing computer games for more that 35 to 40 years. In my experience, without a mentor or a lot of research (youtube, help guides, etc.) this game will cause most people to get disillusioned and find it too difficult. It is one of the things we do in our squadron, help and mentor new guys.

If you want, you can join me ingame and I will help as far as I can. We probably share a similar time zone UTC+2.
P.S. My German is not great but I can follow most of it and put together a few sentences with bad grammar, I live in a former German colony and we still have a lot of German speaking people around and also tourists every year. I also need the practice, getting rusty since Covid.

O7 Cmdr.

Edit: I use a dedicated Python Mining Ship for all my mining sessions. It can do any kind if mining but can carry only up to 192t of cargo, which I find is my limit for one session. I also have an Anaconda similarly equipped and more cargo but don’t like it as much as the Python.
 
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GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
CMDR Jorval said:
if you think the latest CGs only making it to Tier 1 and Tier 2 is because of mining bugs on Xbox…well…heh.
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Confirmd 9026 ton mined by a single player on fed side confirmed no restriction at all on scoring high..
For empire it was only 2697 tons confirmed top 10 player as those player focused on single item collection not credits...
Lack of interest from day zero untill Feds flipped the leader boards in USA timezone is why Fdev set target so low...
 

RedBaron111

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well i uploadet a video example how limpits dont work proper i will make some game videos of stuff that dos not work propper on x-box (will take wile) so manny. Releast on xbn under gamertag : TradeBoardorg

we can upload them on idiot tube 2 (if a streamer has intrest fell free 2 post me a mail)

then it will be better 4 pc players 2 understand the probs we have on xbn

thx@all
 

CaptKarel

CaptKarel
I did some mining last night on xbox with my multi miner Python and all was working as intended. Unfortunately did not find a core to split in the time I had available. The only time I lost limpets due to collisions, was if my angle to the rock was wrong or the rock was spinning too fast with big lumps. The trick I found is to point the ship’s nose downward relative too the centre of the rock and cause the fragments to be pushed below the nose. If it is a spinning rock I would try to find the axis around which the rock spins and aim at that, failing that, for those rocks that rotate along 2 or more axis, I prefer that the rock face to go upwards in front of my nose.
 

Darrack

Darrack
At the risk of upsetting you this is clearly a learn to mine issue.
My main laser miner is a T10, its advantages are sometimes its downfall.
Make sure you fly with the cargo hatch open it will help to keep the speed down.
Dont release a prospector over 50ms it will fail.
Dont get to close to the rock and make sure your collector limpets have a clear path.

The medium slots have good placement for SSDMs or Charges with the two small hardpoints awesome for Blasters, BUT, its a terrible core miner!
Its way to big and although it handles better than a T9 your better off using a Krait MK2, Python or in my experience the king of Core - the Beluga.

Mining = Easy to learn but hard to master

O7
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
Darrack said:
At the risk of upsetting you this is clearly a learn to mine issue.
My main laser miner is a T10, its advantages are sometimes its downfall.
Make sure you fly with the cargo hatch open it will help to keep the speed down.
Dont release a prospector over 50ms it will fail.
Dont get to close to the rock and make sure your collector limpets have a clear path.

The medium slots have good placement for SSDMs or Charges with the two small hardpoints awesome for Blasters, BUT, its a terrible core miner!
Its way to big and although it handles better than a T9 your better off using a Krait MK2, Python or in my experience the king of Core - the Beluga.

Mining = Easy to learn but hard to master

O7
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If your dumping max cargo size from t9/cutter and going for laser mining speed you want anaconda or corvette and the new MLC and size 1 Tech broker mining lasers as a bonus along with the mediums on weapon focused size 8 PD...
the Size 8 PD rules when not doing max cargo rack size...
This is what ruled the CG... With a system 20Ly from the CG station with Bromelite hotspot it was one jump away...

Other ships were less efficient, so are good builds for money not CG units...
 

graflex22

graflex22
Darrack said:
Dont release a prospector over 50ms it will fail.


Mining = Easy to learn but hard to master

O7
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in my T-10 i found that any speeds between 50ms and 80ms will kill the Prospector on launch. from 80ms up to 110ms the Prospectors are fine. haven't been able to figure out why but it works for me.
 

Darrack

Darrack
graflex22 said:
in my T-10 i found that any speeds between 50ms and 80ms will kill the Prospector on launch. from 80ms up to 110ms the Prospectors are fine. haven't been able to figure out why but it works for me.
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Lol that's a weird one, im omw out to Colonia atm but will test that out when im back in the bubble, could speed things up.

O7
 

Deleted member 254248

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I watched the 30 second video he put up of him mining in a Corvette, and it doesn't tell you anything. His view is of empty space and his radar shows him sitting above a bunch of targets and shows the limpets hitting something and being destroyed. Since you can't see what they're trying to collect or what they're hitting, it's pointless to watch.

As has been said before, this is clearly a case of "there are a bunch of ways to improve your mining that minimize limpet deaths, learn them."
 

RedBaron111

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Quote

I watched the 30 second video he put up of him mining in a Corvette, and it doesn't tell you anything. His view is of empty space and his radar shows him sitting above a bunch of targets and shows the limpets hitting something and being destroyed. Since you can't see what they're trying to collect or what they're hitting, it's pointless to watch.

As has been said before, this is clearly a case of "there are a bunch of ways to improve your mining that minimize limpet deaths, learn them."


lol video shows loot from killd ships read text on it lol ^^
 
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RedBaron111

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So after spending 800.000.000 4 a new miner (cutter) it turns out mining is still totaly bugt only ting what realy works on the cutter are the limpets (old and new) ons.

Lazermining is no prob on cutter or t 10 (exept limpets dont work propper on t 10) when it comms 2 deep mining (SUB-SURFACE DISPLACEMENT MISSILE) boy u realy want 2 throw the trash box outa your home or burn it^^

On the t 10 it is totaly bugt (explods by lounch most of the time) on cutter it works but aiming is below hell ^^ (i realy feel sad 4 ppl that need the 50 4 the gs)

Astroids with deepmining depos roll so fast some times u cand even hold a fire position with a hot cas even if u turnd off fighlt asisst (makes no sence at all)

So in general deep mining on xbn (lag sys ur signal gos 2x around the globe example germany /na xbox / uk server/na xbox/germany ping beond counter^^)

So my opinion deep mining will work a lot better on pc on xbn get the gs and forget about it ^^

It will help if u add a propper aiming so u can lock on depo but it will be unfair 4 those that got the gs on it (0.56% on xbn)
 
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