DLC Theme's Probable for PZ Year 3

[Bearcat9948]

Spoiler: Old Predictions

Greater Asia Animals Pack
This dlc would combine three regions: Central Asia, East Asia and North Asia. I think that it's highly unlikely we would get an individual pack for all three of these, but combining all of them under this moniker means there is a great chunk of animals to choose from, whereas restricting the theme to just one or two of these regions would make it too niche.

• Przewalski's wild horse (Flagship animal, 166 meta-wishlist votes, based off of zebra rig)
  • Grassland, temperate forest, desert (?)
• Amur leopard (139 meta-wishlist votes, based off of big cat rig)
  • Taiga, temperate forest
• Wolverine (110 meta-wishlist votes, based off of binturong rig, or new rig)
  • Taiga
• Sichuan takin (Takin overall has 70 meta-wishlist votes, new unique rig)
  • Taiga, temperate forest
• Golden snub-nosed monkey (Few meta-wishlist votes, but Frontier knows we want more monkeys and it's gained huge popularity online in recent years, like the capybara, based off of macaque rig)
  • Taiga, temperate forest
• Himalayan monal (Few meta-wishlist votes, but Frontier knows we want more birds, and it fits well with other Himalayan animals, based off of peafowl rig)
  • Taiga
• Red-crowned crane (Few meta-wishlist votes, but Frontier knows we want more birds, and it is endangered plus a new type of bird, new unique rig)
  • Taiga, temperate forest, aquatic
• (Exhibit) Chinese giant salamander (More popular option for exhibit animals, would be very unique. New rig, not that it matters much)
  • Aquatic

Review: I really felt like the first 6 animal choices were pretty obvious. The top 4 are highly requested by the community, and while the next 2 are not highly requested specifically on their own, they represent two groups animals that are highly requested. The Chinese giant salamander, for the theme, I would also say is a pretty obvious choice. The last slot is hard to pick. I stayed away from the red fox, raccoon dog and Pallas's cat because I think people would be pretty upset to have a dlc with both a feline and a canine seeing as how we get them so dang frequently, and I doubt they would skip the Amur leopard for one of those 3. The golden pheasant and markhor are both good alternatives to the Himalayan monal and Sichuan takin respectively, but I don't think we would get both in the same pack because they start to cannibalize the same niche, certainly most casual players won't see much distinction between the two. Ultimately I chose the red-crowned crane because it does fit the theme perfectly, and gives us another bird, which again, the community is desperate for. The only animal that could've beaten it out was the saiga, which would be a good animal to pair with the Przewalski's wild horse. All in all this pack gives us some great fleshed out animals to make way better Himalayan, Chinese and Siberian themed areas.

Central American Animals Pack
We have a small amount of animals from Central America (glares at South America Pack), but I absolutely can see this region getting it's own dedicated dlc pack to help flesh out the Americas. Mexico is not part of Central America, just as an fyi. However this dlc would certainly include animals that at least partially inhabit Mexico as well as Central America.

• Brown-throated (three-toed) sloth (Flagship animal, 97 meta-wishlist votes so it is the most requested species of sloth, and sloths themselves are highly requested, new unique rig)
  • Tropical forest, grassland (?)
• White-nosed coati (South American coati has 92 meta-wishlist votes, but does not live in Central America, so this replaces it, new unique rig)
  • Desert, tropical forest, grassland
• Yucatan/Mexican howler monkey (Similar to the coati, the black howler monkey has the 85 meta-wishlist votes, but only lives in South America, based off of mandrill or macaque rig)
  • Tropical forest
• Geoffroy’s spider monkey (32 meta-wishlist votes, new unique rig)
  • Tropical forest
• Collared peccary (33 meta-wishlist votes, based off of babirusa rig)
  • Desert, tropical forest, grassland
• Brown pelican (Not the most commonly voted for pelican, but this is a prime pack to introduce one, new unique rig)
  • Tropical forest, temperate forest, aquatic
• Ocelot (63 meta-wishlist votes, based off of clouded leopard rig)
  • Tropical forest, grassland, desert
• (Exhibit) Eyelash pit viper (Decently popular choice)
  • Tropical forest

Review: Phew, this was a tough one. I decided to go all in on the arboreal aspect of this pack, it would be a good time for Frontier to drop this with a climbing rework update. All but two of these animals spend at least some time climbing trees. I wanted so badly to include the manatee, but we just have no idea if that will ever actually happen, and so I felt it should be excluded, same as aviary birds. There were no less than 6 other animals I felt could have been easily put into that last slot (Northern tamandua, ocellated turkey, roseate spoonbill, nine-banded armadillo, kinkajou or raccoon), but let's be honest....it's Frontier. They would give us a cat, with the ocelot being most likely. This pack finally makes it easy to make a great Central American themed section of your zoo, and even fleshes out the American Southwest with a few of these animals. The pelican can also be used in Californian coast or Everglades areas. I went with the eyelash pit viper because we have not yet gotten a snake as a dlc exhibit animal, and I think it's a good choice because of it's bright coloration and is commonly held in zoos.

Middle East and North Africa Animal Pack
We currently only have two animals from this region, the fennec fox and the domesticated form of the Bactrian camel. This pack would include areas such as North Africa, the Arabian peninsula, the Levant, Anatolia, Euphrates River valley and Hindu Kush mountains.

• Scimitar oryx (Flagship animal, 57 meta-wishlist votes, based off of gemsbok rig)
  • Desert
• Crested porcupine (145 meta-wishlist votes, new unique rig)
  • Grassland, desert
• Dromedary (lol)
  • Desert
• Hamadryas baboon (97 meta-wishlist votes, baboons generally popular, based off of mandrill rig)
  • Desert
• Striped hyena (34 meta-wishlist votes, but usually included in packs of this theme and would be popular, based off of striped hyena rig)
  • Desert, grassland
• Great bustard (Not highly requested but it gives us another bird that is unique looking and spread across 3 continents, based off of peafowl rig)
  • Grassland, desert, temperate forest
• Caracal (70 meta-wishlist votes, yes it's another cat but it's highly requested, based off of small cat rig)
  • Desert
• (Exhibit) Veiled chameleon
  • Desert

Review: This was the easiest pack of the 3 to make, but there are still alternative animals you could add such as the Pallas's cat, Arabian leopard, golden jackal, harlequin quail, addax etc. You could also use the Indian crested porcupine rather than the African one, but the African crested porcupine gives us another European animal, and is the higher requested one anyways. The great bustard can also be used as a European animal too.

South American Animals Pack
It's no secret that we need a lot more South America animals than what we have right now. Assuming we get some kind of Central American Animals pack, like the one I detailed above for example, I think it makes more sense to go for a generalized South American pack rather than an Amazonia pack, or a Cerrado pack, or an Andean pack etc. Again, ideally, we'd have birds in this pack given how diverse this part of the world is for birds, but we don't have that option here.

• Capybara (Flagship, 247 meta-wishlist votes, new unique rig)
  • Tropical forest, grassland, aquatic
• Maned wolf (154 meta-wishlist votes, canine rig)
  • Grassland
• Golden lion tamarin (65 meta-wishlist votes, new unique rig)
  • Tropical forest
• Greater rhea (40 meta-wishlist votes, ratite rig)
  • Grassland
• Patagonian mara (37 meta-wishlist votes, new rig ?)
  • Grassland, desert
• Great curassow (Again, no aviary birds, so they would be wise to give us 2, peafowl rig)
  • Tropical forest
• Spectacled bear (59 meta-wishlist votes, bear rig)
  • Taiga, temperate forest
• (Exhibit)Northern caiman lizard
  • Tropical forest

Review: South America is interesting because you can mix and match a lot of animals pretty easily and you'd be hard pressed to make a bad dlc. This pack is somewhat influenced by what I think we could see in the Central America pack, keep that in mind. You could make the case for another caiman species, maybe a tegu. Giant armadillo and agouti were the two that it was difficult to leave out, unfortunately they just don't have the votes on the wishlist. I know getting a bear and a dog might not be great for the memes, but the reality is they are both voted on quite respectably. I thought the curassow was a nice choice to get in a non-flighted bird, but there are many other options.

Australian Animals Pack
This honestly might be the most needed pack out of any of the ones I've come up with here. The Australia pack was not nearly sufficient given that we had a grand total of ONE Australian animal before AND NONE SINCE THE PACK. Allow me to try and rectify that.

• Tasmanian devil (Flagship, 146 meta-wishlist votes, new unique rig)
  • Temperate forest, grassland
• Common wombat (107 meta-wishlist votes, new unique rig)
  • Grassland, topical forest)
• Emu (124 meta-wishlist votes, ratite rig)
  • Desert, grassland, temperate forest
• Platypus (122 meta-wishlist votes, new unique rig)
  • Temperate forest, aquatic
• Bennet's wallaby (57 meta-wishlist votes, kangaroo rig)
  • Grassland, temperate forest
• Short-beaked echidna (37 meta-wishlist votes, new rig ?)
  • Temperate forest, tropical forest, grassland, desert
• Goodfellow's tree kangaroo (92 meta-wishlist votes, new unique rig)
  • Tropical forest
• (Exhibit) Frilled lizard
  • Desert

Review: You may notice I made the heartbreaking decision to exclude New Zealand. It was rough, but there are just so many important and unique species that are missing from Australia that I think this is the route that Frontier would take. The kiwi has more votes than the wallaby and echidna, but I think it would be odd if the made this an Oceania pack and only added in the kiwi, but I could be wrong. Heck, personally I want the kiwi and the takahe, I just don't know if they would do it. Besides that, I think this would be a very popular pack. A lot of these animals go together and you can see them frequently in zoos around the world. Except for the platypus of course, those are really only in Australia, however Australian friends deserve to be able to make a zoo that represents their homeland.

New predictions as of 3/3/0/2022 given the Wetlands theme switching everything up:

Islands Pack (Summer, Scenery)

• Tasmanian devil (Flagship, 177 votes)
• Tree kangaroo (142 between all species)
• Fossa (115 votes)
• Kiwi (68 votes between all species)
• Lord Howe Island stick insect (leaked)

Drylands (Fall/Late Summer, Animal)

• Przewalski's horse (Flagship,180 votes)
• Maned wolf (161 votes)
• African crested porcupine (154 votes)
• Emu (136 votes)
• Common wombat (113 votes)
• Hamadryas baboon (106) votes
• Bighorn sheep (26 votes)
• Veiled chameleon as the exhibit animal

Asia (Winter, Scenery)

• Amur leopard (Flagship, 219 votes)
• Gibbon (161 votes for any species)
• Takin (79 votes for any species)
• Golden pheasant (8 votes)
• Chinese or Japanese giant salamander for exhibit.

 

[avietar]

The lists aren't complete, I think you started with the MENA pack but posted too soon? I love your theme choices so far, and am curious to see your last one.

I'd replace the brown pelican with the West Indian manatee in your Central America pack and then it would be perfect.
I would definitely get the Saiga antelope in the Great Asia pack (instead of the Golden snub nosed monkey. Sorry, I really dislike them! Blame His Darker Materials), and I'd also put the Pallas cat and Tanuki in. There's a reason there are so many canines and felines in the game--they are popular, people love them. I certainly would, too. I would very much love it if the birds went to a bird-dedicated DLC. I could also picture replacing the Tanuki with a Siberian musk deer or Japanese serow. The Pallas cat is such a cool little cat I would definitely keep it in.

 

[Bearcat9948]

The lists aren't complete, I think you started with the MENA pack but posted too soon? I love your theme choices so far, and am curious to see your last one.

I'd replace the brown pelican with the West Indian manatee in your Central America pack and then it would be perfect.
I would definitely get the Saiga antelope in the Great Asia pack (instead of the Golden snub nosed monkey. Sorry, I really dislike them! Blam His Darker Materials), and I'd also put the Pallas cat and Tanuki in. There's a reason there are so many canines and felines in the game--they are popular, people love them. I certainly would, too. I would very much love it if the birds went to a bird-dedicated DLC. I could also picture replacing the Tanuki with a Siberian musk deer or Japanese serow. The Pallas cat is such a cool little cat I would definitely keep it in.

Shhh.... I accidently hotkey posted the list early hehe

 

[Mjmannella]

Honestly? Those packs are super reasonable. Nothing too extreme and some animals that would sell well.

The only suggestion I'd make is swapping out the wolverine for something else like Golden pheasant or a Chinese alligator. That way it could alternatively function as just a Far East Pack.

 

[jcp011c]

I think these are overall good packs, good choices and as mentioned certainly nothing unreasonable. The only point I'd bring up, I think there's some notable animals that don't fit into any of those themes, that would still be missing, that I'm at this point not believing that Frontier will overlook. That and, the entire region of Oceania would still be shorted, and I still strongly believe they'll bring in more animals with that, either through an entire themed pack, or mixed in with other themes

But as far as the packs presented themselves, I like them. But I would caution against saying it's probable. It's a wishlist. A good wishlist in fact. But nothing more than that.

Edit - adding in, I know that the above sounded harsh, and apologies, not my intention. In fact, my own statements might skew to my own sense of probabilities. Truth is, given the areas that are lacking in animals you've got logical reasons for choosing what you did. I just don't know if it makes it any more or less probable than more missing Oceania animals or highly requested animals from the meta list that could be fit in with non -regional themed packs. I guess we won't know until we know

 

[SalamAnders]

Golden snub-nosed monkey (Few meta-wishlist votes, but Frontier knows we want more monkeys and it's gained huge popularity online in recent years, like the capybara, based off of macaque rig)

If the game had a better monkey representation, I would be okay with this choice. But since we are really lacking monkeys, I wouldn't like to see another large orange Asian monkey with an odd nose, which is only found in a few zoos from around its region.

 

[Bearcat9948]

If the game had a better monkey representation, I would be okay with this choice. But since we are really lacking monkeys, I wouldn't like to see another large orange Asian monkey with an odd nose, which is only found in a few zoos from around its region.

Haha! Ok, fair enough. I think there may be some langur species that would be good substitutes

 

[Antimony96]

Two of these are actually similar to pack ideas I've thought of. For Greater Asia, my only differences were the golden pheasant over the Himalayan monal (same idea), the Asian small-clawed otter over the wolverine, and for a weirder one, the Chinese muntjac over the golden snub-nosed monkey--a common zoo animal and a representative for smaller ungulates, though not something that would excite more people. If we want to stick to primates, I'd suggest the Francois's langur or, of course, the lar gibbon. My exhibit animal pick would be the Chinese crocodile lizard, which is pure personal bias. For the Middle East/North Africa Pack, that's pretty much what I thought of, except the bustard swapped for a waldrapp ibis (conservation value) and a rock hyrax in place of one of the carnivores, probably the hyena.

The one I'm not a fan of is the Central American animal pack, because it entire skips over what IMO is more needed representation from South America (which could get a redux in the form of a Neotropical Pack, or an inaccurate but more easily marketable Amazon Pack). I'd keep the coati, and maybe the sloth if it can be properly implemented (as an animal which essentially never goes on the ground, and we know that Frontier has not quite figured out arboreal animals, much less as committed an arboreal animal as the sloth), while adding the capybara and maned wolf as givens, and then picking among a few others like the Patagonian mara, greater rhea, spectacled bear, Chacoan peccary, and some kind of New World monkey. I am, however, a big fan of the eyelash viper.

 

[Bearcat9948]

I didn't have time earlier to make the South American and Australian packs but I just sat down and made them, edits above^^^

 

[Bearcat9948]

Two of these are actually similar to pack ideas I've thought of. For Greater Asia, my only differences were the golden pheasant over the Himalayan monal (same idea), the Asian small-clawed otter over the wolverine, and for a weirder one, the Chinese muntjac over the golden snub-nosed monkey--a common zoo animal and a representative for smaller ungulates, though not something that would excite more people. If we want to stick to primates, I'd suggest the Francois's langur or, of course, the lar gibbon. My exhibit animal pick would be the Chinese crocodile lizard, which is pure personal bias. For the Middle East/North Africa Pack, that's pretty much what I thought of, except the bustard swapped for a waldrapp ibis (conservation value) and a rock hyrax in place of one of the carnivores, probably the hyena.

The one I'm not a fan of is the Central American animal pack, because it entire skips over what IMO is more needed representation from South America (which could get a redux in the form of a Neotropical Pack, or an inaccurate but more easily marketable Amazon Pack). I'd keep the coati, and maybe the sloth if it can be properly implemented (as an animal which essentially never goes on the ground, and we know that Frontier has not quite figured out arboreal animals, much less as committed an arboreal animal as the sloth), while adding the capybara and maned wolf as givens, and then picking among a few others like the Patagonian mara, greater rhea, spectacled bear, Chacoan peccary, and some kind of New World monkey. I am, however, a big fan of the eyelash viper.

The Asian small-clawed otter doesn't fit with the pack unfortunately, they are a South/Southeast Asian animal. The François's langur is the same deal. This pack only covers North China, because Southern China is considered Southeast Asia afaik.

I went back and forth on the bald ibis, but I don't know if they would do that without aviary capabilities. Could see it going either way to be honest. I don't think they would do the hyrax, I think they are probably done with tiny mammals aside from a specific few in Australia. Definitely not at the expense of the hyena. Remember I'm trying to be realistic in these choices, these aren't necessarily what I want to see myself.

Also, you made your post while I was editing in the South America pack haha

 

[jcp011c]

Thank you for the new pack ideas! I think these are all very strong packs, and glad that you put in an Australian pack. It IMO is the area of the world needing more animals the most which is why I was a little defensive towards your first edit. I think that as long as we got the Emu, Tasmanian Devil, Platypus and at least one more marsupial (ideally a Wombat but there are others out there ), that it would go a long way towards making up for the deficiency. 4-5 animals Frontier, please, it's not that difficult. They were shorted in the initial release and remain shorted still, even with one pack.

I'd miss the a second otter species terribly, as well as the red river hog, but those are personal wants, and I do think your packs are entirely reasonable.

 

[Doran]

Greater Asia Animals Pack
This dlc would combine three regions: Central Asia, East Asia and North Asia. I think that it's highly unlikely we would get an individual pack for all three of these, but combining all of them under this moniker means there is a great chunk of animals to choose from, whereas restricting the theme to just one or two of these regions would make it too niche.

• Przewalski's wild horse (Flagship animal, 166 meta-wishlist votes, based off of zebra rig)
  • Grassland, temperate forest, desert (?)
• Amur leopard (139 meta-wishlist votes, based off of big cat rig)
  • Taiga, temperate forest
• Wolverine (110 meta-wishlist votes, based off of binturong rig, or new rig)
  • Taiga
• Sichuan takin (Takin overall has 70 meta-wishlist votes, new unique rig)
  • Taiga, temperate forest
• Golden snub-nosed monkey (Few meta-wishlist votes, but Frontier knows we want more monkeys and it's gained huge popularity online in recent years, like the capybara, based off of macaque rig)
  • Taiga, temperate forest
• Himalayan monal (Few meta-wishlist votes, but Frontier knows we want more birds, and it fits well with other Himalayan animals, based off of peafowl rig)
  • Taiga
• Red-crowned crane (Few meta-wishlist votes, but Frontier knows we want more birds, and it is endangered plus a new type of bird, new unique rig)
  • Taiga, temperate forest, aquatic
• (Exhibit) Chinese giant salamander (More popular option for exhibit animals, would be very unique. New rig, not that it matters much)
  • Aquatic

Review: I really felt like the first 6 animal choices were pretty obvious. The top 4 are highly requested by the community, and while the next 2 are not highly requested specifically on their own, they represent two groups animals that are highly requested. The Chinese giant salamander, for the theme, I would also say is a pretty obvious choice. The last slot is hard to pick. I stayed away from the red fox, raccoon dog and Pallas's cat because I think people would be pretty upset to have a dlc with both a feline and a canine seeing as how we get them so dang frequently, and I doubt they would skip the Amur leopard for one of those 3. The golden pheasant and markhor are both good alternatives to the Himalayan monal and Sichuan takin respectively, but I don't think we would get both in the same pack because they start to cannibalize the same niche, certainly most casual players won't see much distinction between the two. Ultimately I chose the red-crowned crane because it does fit the theme perfectly, and gives us another bird, which again, the community is desperate for. The only animal that could've beaten it out was the saiga, which would be a good animal to pair with the Przewalski's wild horse. All in all this pack gives us some great fleshed out animals to make way better Himalayan, Chinese and Siberian themed areas.

Fact: this is just East Asia pack. All of them can be found in China, which automatically qualify them as East Asian animals. No reason to call it Greater Asia, which isnt even properly specified area.

 

[Bearcat9948]

Fact: this is just East Asia pack. All of them can be found in China, which automatically qualify them as East Asian animals. No reason to call it Greater Asia, which isnt even properly specified area.

Yeah, I suppose so. But not all of their ranges are majority in China, so that's why I didn't do that.

 

[Leaf Productions]

I really like the ideas in here! It really just goes to show that Planet Zoo can keep going for a while and still stay sustained, I hope it bodes well for the future of this game

 

[Bearcat9948]

I really like the ideas in here! It really just goes to show that Planet Zoo can keep going for a while and still stay sustained, I hope it bodes well for the future of this game

I feel decently confident about both the themes and the animals picked for them. Some are a bit harder to nail down, like South America for instance, there's a huge number of birds they could choose from.

But I was something like 20/26 over the last year on what animals would be picked. So I think that if we end up with these themes most of these picks will come to pass.

 

[NachoB]

I totally agree with your ideas for animal packs and i think all of them are possible, the only exception maybe being the central america animal pack (i'm an advocate for a Mexico Pack with props that would include several of the animals you listed: collared peccary, ocelot, mexican spider monkey, axolotl (ex) and either the ringtail, bighorn sheep, coati or armadillo, with the sheep beign the less likely of the three).

We'll get animal packs for SA and Oceania for sure. I do agree that it should be SA animal pack instead of a region based pack such as an amazonian pack since we need a lot of popular southamerican animals from all over. My pics for the SA pack: capybara, maned wolf, howler monkey, greater rhea, spectacled bear, yacare caiman, sloth and some exhibit animal (emerald tree boa maybe). The giant armadillo, coati mundi, patagonian mara and brazilian tapir are all also possible candidates for this roster. I can also see (or want) the green anaconda as the first habitat snake and the red footed tortoise is also an option instead of the caiman (but frontier loves their crocs)

I would love more birds but all the ones that are popular enough are flying birds: andean condor, harpy eagle, macaws, toucans (and i think all of them should be included in a future aviary pack lol). If they do add other "non-aviary bird" to the roster i think it is most likely going to be the scarlet ibis, roseatte spoonbill or jabiru, since they are similar to flamingos in the sense that even though they fly they could be added to game even without flying mecanichs. There are other cool options such as the curassow, seriema or southern screamers but i don't think they are popular enough.

As for Australia, i actually do think that is possible to make kind of an Oceania pack that could include: tasmanian devil, emu, platypus, wallaby, tree kangaroo, kiwi, wombat and tuatara (although i'd prefer a thorny devil, bearded dragon or frilled lizard). This pack will likely focus mostly on australian fauna which is fine but that leaves new guinea and other islands under represented (if not just completly ignored), but i don't see likely that we'll get paradise birds anytime soon or more monitor lizards. An excception to this could be the perentie though.

As for Africa this is a tough one. The best way to do this is to make a whole-Africa animal pack separate from a "Middle eastern pack". I imagine (and hope) that the African animal pack will include: black rhino, african leopard, nile crocodile, greater kudu, secretary bird, grey crowned crane and a primate (either another baboon such as hamadryas or gelada or an arboreal monkey most likely the mantled guereza). As for the exhibit animal probably a snake: black or green mamba, gaboon viper, rock python or egyptian cobra (or a chameleon). The secretary bird and the crowned crane are highly requested but there are lots of choices for "non-aviary" birds for africa that would be welcome as well such as the marabou stork, shoebill, ground hornbills, helmeted or vulturine guineafowls, and even i can see them doing some kind of vulture that stays mostly ground based (although i think is more likely that vultures would be introduce in an aviary pack).

The middle eastern pack could add great animal variety and highly requested animals as well. I think with the props from the africa dlc the architecture of the middle east was partially covered but honestly i think this pack could be either another regular dlc (if so with dromedary camel, scimitar horned oryx, striped hyena, caracal and cobra) or an animal pack (expanding on those animals i would add the ratel, crested porcupine (don't care much about it but is highly requested) and hamadryas baboon (if not included in an african pack).

As for Asia i think your prediction of it focusing on greater east asia is accurate and your choices are perfect, but as much as i would love an himalayan monal i can see the golden pheasant winning over it for the spot or even the mandarin duck instead of any of them as the first waterfowl. Wolverine, przewaslky horse and amur leopard are a given (and a must). I really really hope they give us a golden snub nosed monkey and takin and i think they are a good guess.

All of this leaves India very underrepresented though. An india animal pack is also posible including: indian leopard (i don't think we'll get leopards in all packs so this will depend on the other packs and if they include leopards or not), blackbuck, chital deer (we gotta use that deer rig again), gaur, sloth bear, a langur or lion tailed macaque and another smaller carnivore (again depending on what is included in other packs the striped hyena, ratel and caracal could all of them be part of this pack as well since they are also found in india but if they want to go with a more "representative" animal then the indian mongoose). As for the exhibit animal the indian cobra is the most likely option (if this pack exists at all then another reptile should be the exhibit animal in the middle eastern pack). As for flying birds the indian hornbill is the big one that we won't get until the aviary pack.

And i think with that i end my disertation lol

 

[jcp011c]

Those are some great ideas. I agree with out about the Leopard. One "true" leopard is a must. I'm fine with two. Three's unlikely and probably a bit much.

 

[Antimony96]

Those are some great ideas. I agree with out about the Leopard. One "true" leopard is a must. I'm fine with two. Three's unlikely and probably a bit much.

At this point I don't want any double-up species taking up slots. There are only so many DLC left. I'd definitely opt for an Amur leopard over an African leopard (the latter is very rare in zoos, especially as a pure-breed), so swap it for either a second monkey or a third bird, or the red river hog.

 

[premierfong]

I totally agree with your ideas for animal packs and i think all of them are possible, the only exception maybe being the central america animal pack (i'm an advocate for a Mexico Pack with props that would include several of the animals you listed: collared peccary, ocelot, mexican spider monkey, axolotl (ex) and either the ringtail, bighorn sheep, coati or armadillo, with the sheep beign the less likely of the three).

We'll get animal packs for SA and Oceania for sure. I do agree that it should be SA animal pack instead of a region based pack such as an amazonian pack since we need a lot of popular southamerican animals from all over. My pics for the SA pack: capybara, maned wolf, howler monkey, greater rhea, spectacled bear, yacare caiman, sloth and some exhibit animal (emerald tree boa maybe). The giant armadillo, coati mundi, patagonian mara and brazilian tapir are all also possible candidates for this roster. I can also see (or want) the green anaconda as the first habitat snake and the red footed tortoise is also an option instead of the caiman (but frontier loves their crocs)

I would love more birds but all the ones that are popular enough are flying birds: andean condor, harpy eagle, macaws, toucans (and i think all of them should be included in a future aviary pack lol). If they do add other "non-aviary bird" to the roster i think it is most likely going to be the scarlet ibis, roseatte spoonbill or jabiru, since they are similar to flamingos in the sense that even though they fly they could be added to game even without flying mecanichs. There are other cool options such as the curassow, seriema or southern screamers but i don't think they are popular enough.

As for Australia, i actually do think that is possible to make kind of an Oceania pack that could include: tasmanian devil, emu, platypus, wallaby, tree kangaroo, kiwi, wombat and tuatara (although i'd prefer a thorny devil, bearded dragon or frilled lizard). This pack will likely focus mostly on australian fauna which is fine but that leaves new guinea and other islands under represented (if not just completly ignored), but i don't see likely that we'll get paradise birds anytime soon or more monitor lizards. An excception to this could be the perentie though.

As for Africa this is a tough one. The best way to do this is to make a whole-Africa animal pack separate from a "Middle eastern pack". I imagine (and hope) that the African animal pack will include: black rhino, african leopard, nile crocodile, greater kudu, secretary bird, grey crowned crane and a primate (either another baboon such as hamadryas or gelada or an arboreal monkey most likely the mantled guereza). As for the exhibit animal probably a snake: black or green mamba, gaboon viper, rock python or egyptian cobra (or a chameleon). The secretary bird and the crowned crane are highly requested but there are lots of choices for "non-aviary" birds for africa that would be welcome as well such as the marabou stork, shoebill, ground hornbills, helmeted or vulturine guineafowls, and even i can see them doing some kind of vulture that stays mostly ground based (although i think is more likely that vultures would be introduce in an aviary pack).

The middle eastern pack could add great animal variety and highly requested animals as well. I think with the props from the africa dlc the architecture of the middle east was partially covered but honestly i think this pack could be either another regular dlc (if so with dromedary camel, scimitar horned oryx, striped hyena, caracal and cobra) or an animal pack (expanding on those animals i would add the ratel, crested porcupine (don't care much about it but is highly requested) and hamadryas baboon (if not included in an african pack).

As for Asia i think your prediction of it focusing on greater east asia is accurate and your choices are perfect, but as much as i would love an himalayan monal i can see the golden pheasant winning over it for the spot or even the mandarin duck instead of any of them as the first waterfowl. Wolverine, przewaslky horse and amur leopard are a given (and a must). I really really hope they give us a golden snub nosed monkey and takin and i think they are a good guess.

All of this leaves India very underrepresented though. An india animal pack is also posible including: indian leopard (i don't think we'll get leopards in all packs so this will depend on the other packs and if they include leopards or not), blackbuck, chital deer (we gotta use that deer rig again), gaur, sloth bear, a langur or lion tailed macaque and another smaller carnivore (again depending on what is included in other packs the striped hyena, ratel and caracal could all of them be part of this pack as well since they are also found in india but if they want to go with a more "representative" animal then the indian mongoose). As for the exhibit animal the indian cobra is the most likely option (if this pack exists at all then another reptile should be the exhibit animal in the middle eastern pack). As for flying birds the indian hornbill is the big one that we won't get until the aviary pack.

And i think with that i end my disertation lol

This fan has HEART!!!!

 

[Evolution]

I totally agree with your ideas for animal packs and i think all of them are possible, the only exception maybe being the central america animal pack (i'm an advocate for a Mexico Pack with props that would include several of the animals you listed: collared peccary, ocelot, mexican spider monkey, axolotl (ex) and either the ringtail, bighorn sheep, coati or armadillo, with the sheep beign the less likely of the three).

We'll get animal packs for SA and Oceania for sure. I do agree that it should be SA animal pack instead of a region based pack such as an amazonian pack since we need a lot of popular southamerican animals from all over. My pics for the SA pack: capybara, maned wolf, howler monkey, greater rhea, spectacled bear, yacare caiman, sloth and some exhibit animal (emerald tree boa maybe). The giant armadillo, coati mundi, patagonian mara and brazilian tapir are all also possible candidates for this roster. I can also see (or want) the green anaconda as the first habitat snake and the red footed tortoise is also an option instead of the caiman (but frontier loves their crocs)

I would love more birds but all the ones that are popular enough are flying birds: andean condor, harpy eagle, macaws, toucans (and i think all of them should be included in a future aviary pack lol). If they do add other "non-aviary bird" to the roster i think it is most likely going to be the scarlet ibis, roseatte spoonbill or jabiru, since they are similar to flamingos in the sense that even though they fly they could be added to game even without flying mecanichs. There are other cool options such as the curassow, seriema or southern screamers but i don't think they are popular enough.

As for Australia, i actually do think that is possible to make kind of an Oceania pack that could include: tasmanian devil, emu, platypus, wallaby, tree kangaroo, kiwi, wombat and tuatara (although i'd prefer a thorny devil, bearded dragon or frilled lizard). This pack will likely focus mostly on australian fauna which is fine but that leaves new guinea and other islands under represented (if not just completly ignored), but i don't see likely that we'll get paradise birds anytime soon or more monitor lizards. An excception to this could be the perentie though.

As for Africa this is a tough one. The best way to do this is to make a whole-Africa animal pack separate from a "Middle eastern pack". I imagine (and hope) that the African animal pack will include: black rhino, african leopard, nile crocodile, greater kudu, secretary bird, grey crowned crane and a primate (either another baboon such as hamadryas or gelada or an arboreal monkey most likely the mantled guereza). As for the exhibit animal probably a snake: black or green mamba, gaboon viper, rock python or egyptian cobra (or a chameleon). The secretary bird and the crowned crane are highly requested but there are lots of choices for "non-aviary" birds for africa that would be welcome as well such as the marabou stork, shoebill, ground hornbills, helmeted or vulturine guineafowls, and even i can see them doing some kind of vulture that stays mostly ground based (although i think is more likely that vultures would be introduce in an aviary pack).

The middle eastern pack could add great animal variety and highly requested animals as well. I think with the props from the africa dlc the architecture of the middle east was partially covered but honestly i think this pack could be either another regular dlc (if so with dromedary camel, scimitar horned oryx, striped hyena, caracal and cobra) or an animal pack (expanding on those animals i would add the ratel, crested porcupine (don't care much about it but is highly requested) and hamadryas baboon (if not included in an african pack).

As for Asia i think your prediction of it focusing on greater east asia is accurate and your choices are perfect, but as much as i would love an himalayan monal i can see the golden pheasant winning over it for the spot or even the mandarin duck instead of any of them as the first waterfowl. Wolverine, przewaslky horse and amur leopard are a given (and a must). I really really hope they give us a golden snub nosed monkey and takin and i think they are a good guess.

All of this leaves India very underrepresented though. An india animal pack is also posible including: indian leopard (i don't think we'll get leopards in all packs so this will depend on the other packs and if they include leopards or not), blackbuck, chital deer (we gotta use that deer rig again), gaur, sloth bear, a langur or lion tailed macaque and another smaller carnivore (again depending on what is included in other packs the striped hyena, ratel and caracal could all of them be part of this pack as well since they are also found in india but if they want to go with a more "representative" animal then the indian mongoose). As for the exhibit animal the indian cobra is the most likely option (if this pack exists at all then another reptile should be the exhibit animal in the middle eastern pack). As for flying birds the indian hornbill is the big one that we won't get until the aviary pack.

And i think with that i end my disertation lol

I pretty much on board with all of the dlc's, except for Asia or India. You need to add a Gibbon species in there. Gibbons would bring something different to PZ besides another monkey. Like new animations "Brachiation for example" and they make these unique sounds that no other primate makes. Don't get me wrong though, I really do want more primates in PZ "Spider Monkey,Squirrel Monkey,Howler Monkey,Hamadryas Babboon, and etc", but the Gibbon is a #1 priority for me. I feel like it's really needed and missing in PZ to fill in that Primate species gap. That's my personal thought though.