It involves honesty, which is a quality lacking with SC and it's 'fans'.
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Daily code commit logs for x hundreds of devs ? What will you do with this daily huge mass of information ?
Sounds like more video production to me, the way he framed it there:
Yeah quite the list of fans-to-staff these days
VR / Gen 12 guy is about the techiest one I know of. From student to engine programmer:
I guess the ones that end up in Lando / Jake slots are just more visible.
EDIT: Tyler reckons there are at least 'dozens and dozens and dozens' of 'superfans' as devs now.
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For example, not communicating obvious lies. Or, telling backers in simple terms how much is yet to be done to finish SQ42. Or, being open about this entire byzantine corporate structure that is being funded by people.
ToW anyone?
Let's not mistake marketing obfuscation for transparency, really.
Fans being employed is very common in startups and companies without a long term strategy. They are often emotionally invested in whatever the company does which means they will gloss over the glaring red flags, low pay and long hours and the fact that having "CIG" on their CV is not exactly a good thing.
The ones that have been around a while can always move to another company, see all the old heads that left within 1-2 years of CIG being alive, and Ben Parry.
The fresh out of Uni types with a CV that literally says "Student", then "CIG" cannot move anywhere and CIG knows it. An employee that is both emotionally invested in your company and cannot move to another one because no other company wants them is going to be pretty cheap. And CIG is nothing if not cheap when it comes to developer pay.
The ones that have been around a while can always move to another company, see all the old heads that left within 1-2 years of CIG being alive, and Ben Parry.
The fresh out of Uni types with a CV that literally says "Student", then "CIG" cannot move anywhere and CIG knows it. An employee that is both emotionally invested in your company and cannot move to another one because no other company wants them is going to be pretty cheap. And CIG is nothing if not cheap when it comes to developer pay.
Give it to the community that funded the company.
Do you really think somebody enterprising won't have the data knocked into a readable online progress tracker within a week?...oh my sweet summer child
Don't think your skipping the Management Accounts part went unnoticed either...
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I just would not do it. All CIG roadmap incarnations, and there have been quite a few, imo have all been grossly inaccurate and have grossly misrepresented the state of the development in order to get funds. After 10+ years and 450 millions wasted I think it is high time CIG acknowledged they are simply incapable of releasing what they have pre sold, stop soliciting good money after bad, and close shop.
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Ant look at this for transparency. Regular honest updates.
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Not watching that. Did he just get employed by CIG? That's what the first few comments suggest. (edit should have read rest of the posts lol)
Can imagine the meetings they have. When someone raises an issue and is critical of something, all the superfans jumping in and telling them they are just haters, Derek Smart, and how they don't understand fidelity development.
Sounds like Senior Dev material to me!
Yeah
How about the incarnation we have now? With a singular quarter out it's literally impossible to use it as a marketing tool. On top of that, nothing has been pulled from 3.17 since the change.
To be fair, it will be a new grind for the player and not the same again. Although if it were me, I'd wait until they said the game will receive no further wipes before buying it
I'm just suggesting a reason why some console players might migrate to Star Citizen
Aye, if yer trying to avoid repeating the same grind then moving to Star Citizen at this point in time would be a case of out of the frying pan into the fryer
How often are they wiping games at the moment? I remember the Elite Beta. We were told there'd be a wipe before the game released, and so I thought the best way to gain an advantage over the non-beta backers would be to learn the best way to make money from my initial position as fast as I could. I reset the game even more times than FDev themselves did, and tried different methods to make money
When they released they decided not to wipe after all <sad grin>
The wipes during the Elite beta did affect my attitude to the game, after all, why bother trying to make progress when you know that progress will be lost. At least the Elite Beta didn't last that long. It must feel a long slog for the Star Citizen players who have been at it for years and years, knowing that any progress is transitory
Today's Blast from the Past:
The 'weeks not months' post [July 2015]
Some Finely Aged Quotes:
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The Star Marine debacle:
Context on Star Marine:
The 'weeks not months' post [July 2015]
Some Finely Aged Quotes:
Ben 'Superfan' Lesnick said:
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The Star Marine debacle:
Context on Star Marine:
- Star Marine was first hyped as the 'FPS Demo' in November 2014
- It was supposed to come out around April 2015
- Development went badly, for some familiar reasons. (Scope creep, performance issues due to asset load, inefficiency due to asset share across multiple titles, etc).
- Star Marine was officially released in January 2017. Minus previously planned aspects such as arrival on site by ship and scripted missions etc.
Star Citizen: Gotta revive it with some non relevant stuff from 8 years ago!
