Update 11 - Finishing Touches (Are you sitting comfortably?)

my main issue however is how heavily it was marketed to vr enthusiasts back in the day even selling on a vr only store. with the tag build for vr used in the marketing....

Yes like i said, companies wanted to 'create' a product (for their profits) so spent quite a lot of money on marketing/shilling VR (and 3D TV back in the day). That process is still going on (cough) ;)
 
Yes like i said, companies wanted to 'create' a product (for their profits) so spent quite a lot of money on marketing/shilling VR (and 3D TV back in the day). That process is still going on (cough) ;)
Not sure if the cough is aimed at me... but i assure you i have no motivation to "shill" VR other than being a gaming / tech enthusiast who loves cool stuff.... and VR to me is incredibly cool and transforms many games it is used in...... i certainly dont profit for anything vr wise, quite the opposite, having shelled out for 4 headsets over the years (i only have 2 now)
 
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FDev have dedicated VR developers, whom won't be assigned to developing the huge aspirations (if they exist); but needless; right now VR is definitely at the bottom of the list until EDO is where it needs to be.
They do, btw, want VR to be done right, with legs, and in time hope to do so (I asked!)
Does it really take lots of resources to make a game that was "made for VR" in less than a weekend by one guy?
 
please dont use the we term... know you used the " " but even so..... I absolutely no longer enjoy elite without VR and indeed even if i had not ever played it in VR would have moved on long ago without it. VR is the very thing which transforms the game for me and allows me to ignore many of the issues i would otherwise have with it.

without VR there is a very real chance i would go back to oolite and all the oxps i had installed for that.

my main issue however is how heavily it was marketed to vr enthusiasts back in the day even selling on a vr only store. with the tag build for vr used in the marketing..... i know some of the people basically saying cry me a river when the oculus store version got told no more updates are now feeling what it is like now console has been ended. IF FD didnt want to make a VR supported game they really should not have promoted and sold one. Maybe you did not see this marketing - quite possible if you dont hang out in vr circles - and why would you if you dont want VR..... VR is as important to me as a wheel is in a racing sim, or HOTAS in a flight sim.....

Mind you i also disagree with you about 3DTV and it all being about shills for that as well...... clearly it failed........ but i am currently stuck with my 1080p TV in the lounge unable to upgrade precisely because it is 3D.

at some point i will run out of 3D films to watch (or worse still the telly pack up - its 9 years old now so possible) and will then get rid. I think personally it came just a little too soon.

active 3D (which is what i have btw) is spoiled with having to have really expensive glasses which need batteries recharging and in the wrong light you see flicker. they are also rather bulky.

passive 3D - which ultimately is the tech which would have won imo if it could have survived just 1 more tv generation, the glasses cost pennies and they are light and more comfy..................... but passive 3D halved the resolution... this is a problem with large 1080p sets of 60inch+ (which is what you need really to benefit from 3D) as its essentially lowering the resolution of your set to 540p.

4K passive 3D tvs just hit the market as it imploded in on ittself. a crying shame imo. i do not know how much it cost to add in passive 3D functionality.... but i know i would happily pay a few 100 quid extra to get it on my new set if i was getting one. sadly i have no option now.
I agree very much with this post. Once you play ED in VR there is no way you can play it without. I do not like playing it without it. I will not play it without it. I agree with the statement that if FD was not going to follow through with it they never should have started it. It's like buying a car and going to pick it up and the dealer tells you we discontinued wheels.
 
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I play ED (and other games) in VR, it is a nice implementation, I'll not disagree. But, in truth, I play much more of ED in pancake, even when we only had Horizons, than in VR. It is good to play in VR, but not, for me, of paramount importance. Not that I'd say no to EDO wholly supporting VR, but I don't honestly expect this to come about.
 
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FDev have dedicated VR developers, whom won't be assigned to developing the huge aspirations (if they exist); but needless; right now VR is definitely at the bottom of the list until EDO is where it needs to be.
They do, btw, want VR to be done right, with legs, and in time hope to do so (I asked!)
That's fine all it would take is a simple announcement that they will get back to VR when EDO is squared away.
 
Does it really take lots of resources to make a game that was "made for VR" in less than a weekend by one guy?
I wouldn't know, and nor is the game "made for VR" anymore (those logos are gone), and I've also no idea how many people are involved in the VR side of things (I suspect that information isn't public). So I'm going to go with "Yes" because I doubt anything is trivial in EDO now. :)
 
That's fine all it would take is a simple announcement that they will get back to VR when EDO is squared away.
FDev have burnt their bridges with that stuff; officially there's nothing going on with further VR development beyond bug fixes. That's a good line to maintain until they're happy we're happy with EDO as a game. In their position I wouldn't say any more, especially in a quotable fashion.
 
I play ED (and other games) in VR, it is a nice implementation, I'll not disagree. But, in truth, I play much more of ED in pancake, even when we only had Horizons, than in VR. It is good to play in VR, but not, for me, of paramount importance. Not that I'd say no to EDO wholly supporting VR, but I don't honestly expect this to come about.
To each his own. I played EDO during the Alpha phase (no VR then) I simply can't stand the game that way . For now I don't play the on foot stuff.
 
I wouldn't know, and nor is the game "made for VR" anymore (those logos are gone), and I've also no idea how many people are involved in the VR side of things (I suspect that information isn't public). So I'm going to go with "Yes" because I doubt anything is trivial in EDO now. :)
I think that VR has been dropped because the framerate that we have now on foot would be halved. Unacceptable in VR.
 
To each his own. I played EDO during the Alpha phase (no VR then) I simply can't stand the game that way . For now I don't play the on foot stuff.
Indeed, to each their own.

I also played EDO alpha, and had a ball doing do.

My comment was illustrating that, while I enjoy VR (after playing on early kit in the Trocadero Centre in London in the early 1990's) it doesn't dictate what, or how, I play, possibly as I just enjoy PC gaming, and VR is still very much a niche genre.
 
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I've always found that very worrying about VR. Once you really get into it, you can never go back. I've heard that too many times, and that alone is a big warning sign for me to treat VR like a dangerous drug. My only experience with VR and ED is a low level first generation device, but I already saw the potential for severe addiction.
You may have a point some people have highly addictive personalities, others do not. It boils down to "Know thy self".
 
FDev have burnt their bridges with that stuff; officially there's nothing going on with further VR development beyond bug fixes. That's a good line to maintain until they're happy we're happy with EDO as a game. In their position I wouldn't say any more, especially in a quotable fashion.
Very wise in the latter case; just look at how people kept hitting them over the head with the space-legs stuff from the speculative pre-Kickstarter musings. Conveniently forgetting any blue-sky elements they aren't personally interested in like Big Game Hunting.
 
I've always found that very worrying about VR. Once you really get into it, you can never go back. I've heard that too many times, and that alone is a big warning sign for me to treat VR like a dangerous drug. My only experience with VR and ED is a low level first generation device, but I already saw the potential for severe addiction.
sorry but that is nonsense....... well no more than gaming ittself is addictive, or using a wheel or any device, and if you think ALL these things are potentially addictive then that should make the whole thing worrying to you. why single out VR?......
i dont get cold sweats having to go into VR and i do not know anyone who does...... if games stop supporting vr then i will stop playing them but that has nothing to do with addiction and if you have seen anyone struggle with addiction you would understand what a fake comparison you are making is.
 
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