A second White Rhino (Helium Gas Giant)

JJGoldberg

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This system was first found by CMDR MatthewDread. CMDR Marxanthius noticed the corresponding Codex change. There was no EDSM entry, so I set up to reach and scan it. Planet A6 is the one. That one...

Norma Arm, BOETHS MM-S B22-31 A6

Hats off for MatthewDread, who discovered it!

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Zieman

Zieman
Common confusion. :)
Easy to get confused because the Helium Giants are so extremely rare.
 
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Erimus Kamzel

Erimus Kamzel
JJGoldberg said:
This system was first found by CMDR MatthewDread. CMDR Marxanthius noticed the corresponding Codex change. There was no EDSM entry, so I set up to reach and scan it. Planet A6 is the one. That one...

Norma Arm, BOETHS MM-S B22-31 A6

Hats off for MatthewDread, who discovered it!

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Nice find!

Its been added to EDSM via the GMP now, with the placeholder name 'Boeths'. If you want to submit a new name and descriptive write up of the POI, please do :)
 

Arcane26

Arcane26
Just arrived now! Here are some pictures:

and I tell you what... this thing is eerie. Like, it glows blue. I've never seen anything like it besides for the green gas giants. Perhaps the B in RGB on the colour palette went all the way to 255 eh? or perhaps all blue class Is are like that lol. I also took some videos for the youtube video Im making on it soon.

P.S the view from the moon is kinda disappointing
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Sapyx

Sapyx
Arcane26 said:
Curious how the atmospheric compositions determine what is labelled a helium giant and what isn't... perhaps it's just the lack of hydrogen rather than the majority of helium in an atmosphere?
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I'd concur; that chart clearly shows that a "helium giant" doesn't necessarily have helium as the primary or majority component (though logically, it ought to). But it will certainly have more helium than hydrogen - which seems to be true in all four known examples.

Making helium giants by using statistical variation from the mean galactic composition is statistically unlikely; the "average" composition of everthing in the real-world universe (with stars and gas giants severely weighting the average) is about 75% hydrogen, 25% helium. I think a "helium-rich" planet needs to be over 30% helium.

Of course, there'd be a lot more "helium giants" and "helium rich giants" around if the game had the capacity to switch planet types. There are plenty of "ice worlds" with million-atm-pressure helium-rich atmospheres; in practice, such a world would be functionally identical to a helium giant, but the Stellar Forge can't change a planet type from ice world to gas giant once it's locked in.
 

Noobqueen

Noobqueen
Cant wait for Glowing Green Helium Giants

😜

One is bound to exist somewhere right? Only a very small amount of the galaxy has been surveyed.

Must be about as rare as the 2nd Supermassive black hole though.
 

MattG

MattG
Noobqueen said:
One is bound to exist somewhere right? Only a very small amount of the galaxy has been surveyed.
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Statistically extremely unlikely. As of last reports, the galaxy was 0.05% explored; or 1/2000th. We've found exactly 2 proc-gen HGGs. Let's say we've been extremely unlucky, and actually we should've hit double that rate (possible, but equally possible we found quadruple the normal rate too) - this'll give 4 per 0.05%, or 8000 in the entire galaxy. Semi-optimistic numbers for GGGs suggest we're looking around 1 in 2 million (I think it's actually more like 1 in 4 million, but we're being optimistic), which gives us a 0.4% chance of it occurring in the entire galaxy. If we use the more likely numbers, it comes down to 0.1%.

It's not 0. But it definitely isn't "bound to exist".

(I like your thinking though, my immediate thought was "GGHGG when?", and then I worked out the odds :))
 

Arcane26

Arcane26
MattG said:
Statistically extremely unlikely. As of last reports, the galaxy was 0.05% explored; or 1/2000th. We've found exactly 2 proc-gen HGGs. Let's say we've been extremely unlucky, and actually we should've hit double that rate (possible, but equally possible we found quadruple the normal rate too) - this'll give 4 per 0.05%, or 8000 in the entire galaxy. Semi-optimistic numbers for GGGs suggest we're looking around 1 in 2 million (I think it's actually more like 1 in 4 million, but we're being optimistic), which gives us a 0.4% chance of it occurring in the entire galaxy. If we use the more likely numbers, it comes down to 0.1%.

It's not 0. But it definitely isn't "bound to exist".

(I like your thinking though, my immediate thought was "GGHGG when?", and then I worked out the odds :))
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after that, might as well quit the game because you literally cannot discover something more statistically unlikely to happen than that LOL
 

Noobqueen

Noobqueen
MattG said:
Statistically extremely unlikely. As of last reports, the galaxy was 0.05% explored; or 1/2000th. We've found exactly 2 proc-gen HGGs. Let's say we've been extremely unlucky, and actually we should've hit double that rate (possible, but equally possible we found quadruple the normal rate too) - this'll give 4 per 0.05%, or 8000 in the entire galaxy. Semi-optimistic numbers for GGGs suggest we're looking around 1 in 2 million (I think it's actually more like 1 in 4 million, but we're being optimistic), which gives us a 0.4% chance of it occurring in the entire galaxy. If we use the more likely numbers, it comes down to 0.1%.

It's not 0. But it definitely isn't "bound to exist".

(I like your thinking though, my immediate thought was "GGHGG when?", and then I worked out the odds :))
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I did say "As rare as the 2nd supermassive black hole" 😉
 
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