I still like Horizons!

CMDR Karrde Sun

CMDR Karrde Sun
It seems like the right time to be going through the accounts, pruning excess carriers and culling fleets down from enthusiast level collection to smaller more meaningful collections.

Been wanting to get back into just one space ship again as well, instead of carrier logout life. Turns out the trusty and long abandoned cutter is the one after all. Its the only multipurpose that can do trading. For sustained pve class 6 biweave and a fighter is totally fine. In 2022, i've also been lowering the priority of fuel scoops.. it was a long running mistake from configuring all ships for exploration first :) That one higher class slot used for utility and only having a 3-5 class scoop is a very satisfying swap on many ships.

Yeah i love horizons. Its beautiful. Ditching the carrier and having one multipurpose ship that does trading, combat and exploration is great as well. Will keep the type 10 for salvage/exploration, and the corvette for mining. Its perfect for mining.

I acknowledge odd was just a shame for the game, but definitely looking forward to a slow burn of quiet, single player space time, just as it was for the first hundred hours.
 

Sunyavadin

Sunyavadin
WR3ND said:
Would be cool if they could make Odyssey with the performance and graphics of Horizons, so I'd bother playing. At least for now I can still enjoy Horizons. (y)
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I keep saying this is what ED needs, an ED:2 built from the ground up with support for the Odyssey mechanics, rather than badly bolting spaghetti code for them onto the edges.

Of course, we all know how you need to be careful what you wish for. Pretty sure right now that if Frontier announced VR was coming back, it'd be in the form of "Elite: Metaverse", with Arx as a token on a blockchain that lets you buy NFT cosmetics...
 

CMDR Karrde Sun

CMDR Karrde Sun
[MEOW] babelfisch said:
Odyssey also is pretty good. (y)
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Thanks for the encouragement, but i can't run it and i don't want to accept downgrades. That's meant quite specifically as well.

  • I can get to a somewhat okay configuration (30fps on ground bases), but when the renderer always hits that point after a certain amount of play and causes systemic high gpu usage, other people are brute forcing over this bug but my machine(s) can't. So its fine really, but as soon as i start playing the game not so much. This is not a situation i'll be upgrading hardware for.
  • The skybox with stars is worse, and above all else what i like about elite is being a space game. Im basically a solo player, and not a content creator or community volunteer so all that meta stuff (and frontier dependency) doesn't effect me.
  • The planet tech is worse. I don't see any logic to use something that's worse when its right there an option for a better experience. Also for me, the planet view is much more valuable than the ground view. I love both space and ground salvage missions, and also tagging, so find myself looking at planets from space far more than i am on the surface. The only thing i do now on surfaces is canyon boosting.. another problem.

So i'm glad you like it, but it honestly makes no sense. Just because i can if frontier ever release an odd patch with known improvements will always give it a try.. but.. im glad it works for you?
 

WR3ND

WR3ND
Performance aside, I really like the smoke/steam effect in the hangar in Odyssey. It has a certain kind of... granularity to it that looks cool. So there's that. :)

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Red Rocket

Red Rocket
I was excited about the new Odyssey planet tech and after doing some exploring the new planets and at first finding it beautiful.
I started searching planets looking for the new plant life, doing a lot of planet side cruising just off the surface searching.
Amazing views quickly became more of the same and just boring compared to Horizons.

I started to miss the variety of Horizons, always changing huge mountains,deep valleys, just more interesting.

Added the better performance in Horizons and VR not supported in Odyssey, I fly only in Horizons.
There is absolutely no reason for a V`R player to go into Odyssey.

I would probably spend more time in Odyssey if VR was supported on foot.
 

DrinkyBird

DrinkyBird
I only like Horizons because it doesn't have that bug with fleet carrier trading that Odyssey has. So Horizons is perfect for when I want to grind making obscene amounts of money. But for actually playing the game I just stick to Odyssey.
 

WeComeInPeace

WeComeInPeace
Actually Odd looks pretty good in many cases, and due to my embarrassing lack of OCD I think the planets look amazing now.

On the other hand, the old "darkness" issue has never been completely solved, so when arriving at a station, you have to enable night vision not to bump into one of the ships outside. Realism or not, that is one of many annoying things in Odd. Yesterday I played Odd and tried to dial every setting to the max, including bloom etc. and then I turned down the res until I had a decent VR performance. Far from Horizon performance, but with all the settings to max, Odd looks pretty good. Especially with the new lighting.

Still, it seems that the old rule about code being easier to write than to read is a root cause of what we (don't) see these days. I wouldn't mind a completely new version of ED, as long as it's about flying spaceships in VR.
 

Old Duck

Old Duck
What I like about Horizons (see my sig), I like about Horizons. Odyssey threatens that, specifically performance (and thus VR), lighting choices, UI, and new bugs. So yeah, I'm with the OP.

As for the unique aspects that Odyssey brings to Elite, I find myself more and more tempted by Star Citizen, as totally cliche as that is. Watching my favorite people (most recently Obsidian Ant this weekend) play SC makes me say "ooooh, ahhhhh!" a whole lot more than watching people play Odyssey. But while SC may indeed be a good substitute for Odyssey, it's not a substitute for the unique aspects of Horizons that I still get enjoyment from.
 

DrinkyBird

DrinkyBird
Willyum-71 said:
I'm exclusively VR, so looks like there's not much of a reason to even want EDO for me.... I tried EDO... If you've never done ED in VR you wouldn't understand, It's a completely different game in VR, and VR is not something you can 'imagine'.... You have to 'do it' to 'get it'.
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I've done it and didn't get it. Halp?
 

Willyum-71

Willyum-71
DrinkyBird said:
I've done it and didn't get it. Halp?
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I'm guessing you either tried it on a bad headset with screen-door effect or no peripheral view... or you haven't developed VR legs yet.... A good quality VR setup can make or break the VR experience and actually be the cause of sickness if the framerate isn't setup right. And VR legs can take time to develop (about a week or two of heavy play) But on a good setup, your brain will believe you ARE in Your ship! I do have a Oculus Quest 2 for example, but I absolutely never use it for ED, the peripheral view is pretty bad and the color gamut is very washed out and it doesn't have true black tones, only greys.... So I mis-spoke.... Playing ED on a high quality VR headset and system is a game changer! (and by the way, I'm not rich, I had to do overtime at work to invest in a 'better' headset... Not trying to crap on Oculus, it's good in other areas like sim racing and sport sims and I even prefer it over my main headset for some titles... just not in 'dark' games where you may need to keep an eye out on your sides. Could possibly be better in EDO with the atmospheric planets, maybe)
 
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