ObsidianAnt: Frontier - What The HECK Is Going On With Elite Dangerous?

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I've lost all respect for Obsidian Ant. He posts inaccurate info with click bait headlines nowadays. It's a shame. He used to be a good resource.
 
This weekend's chocolate gift from Frontier has been keeping me pretty calm. :D

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Wow... so this is using development resources to benefit the most number of people..

Some designer inside frontier had to tell the easter egg company where to put the frontier logo... not even a decal for players.

Cancelling development just still bribing content creators.. this company goes to new heights every day. I'm amazed truly.
 
I never really know whether you're being cynical, sarcastic or actually serious. Or were you just trying to be funny? I'm sorry if I'm being a little humourless right now... 🥴

Practically doesn't matter but the symbolism is terrible...

Also if they take the liberty to use such gross excuses for cutting development, i get to in the forum post as well. Standards of behavior get set from the top :)
 
I was considering hitting the like button, but then again I wasn't sure if it was sarcasm/successfully trolling me or not.. :)

Edit: I decided to give the post the benefit of the doubt, if it was intended, then plus points for the dry humour and sarcasm!
 
Arthur confirmed a update 12 and we have the people working on the game talking about how excited they are to show us what they have been up to and....

This dude and others can only peddle doom and gloom.

Why?

Because he gets paid by the clicks and if 24 hour news teaches anything it's that doom sells.

I've lost patience with OA and doom in general.

Someday sure the game will die. When that happens I'll have my screen shots, my memories and I'll move on.

It's not anything to get worked up over and in the moment the game works and is fun and is getting regular content.

So, chill.
Played this game for years, FDev always says how excited they are to show off what they are up to, usually to end up giving us some cut down version that they generally let die on the vine. It's not unusual or a surprise that OA would bring that up. Non of this is new or should be a surprise to anyone who have played this game for any significant amount of time.
 
It's the sheer frustration around the many unfixed bugs and missing features that's the biggest thing to me.

There are two different approaches you can take and make the community happy. You can take the big dev studio approach and say little, but fix things regularly and competently so that people can expect bugs to be fixed in a reasonable timeframe.

OR you can take the small indy dev approach and communicate regularly with the community and explain why bugs are there and that you're working on them, but they're complicated to fix, and maybe giving some temporary workarounds, but assuring everyone that they ARE being worked on, thereby building a rapport with the community.

But the worst case is having the speed of the second but the communication of the first. There are bugs that have been around for literally years. There are bugs on the issue tracker that have been reported dozens of times, but because the issue tracker doesn't count anything that doesn't hit a minimum popularity threshold, they just vanish. It's like they're actively trying to spit in the face of their community, many of whom really do want to help them.

If someone quits because they're not into FPS combat, then fine, that's just life. But if someone quits because they get crash after crash in repeatable ways that have been posted multiple times but never fixed, then that loss is 100% fdev's fault. And that is EXACTLY the sort of thing that kills a community, and then a game.

I don't want to be down on Elite, but it's really hard to see any upside to the approach they've been taking.
 
To be fair, good news from Fdev have been rare this days.
He did cover the FC interiors, which was a good news. I don't think of any other recent "good news" ?
Just today Buur and Rheeney were discussing the graphics improvements sneaked in in recent updates (possibly update 11) without announcement, so maybe they don't count as news, but the myriad improvements and optimisations can't be totally ignored. It's not all bug fixes.
 
...personally I think that if you have nothing good to say, then better to not say it.
Could you elaborate? I mean can you explain why you think so? Can you define good in an objective way? Is there a reason all things "not good" are better left unsaid? Do you think it solves anything, the quietness? I'm sincere.
 
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Wow... so this is using development resources to benefit the most number of people..

Some designer inside frontier had to tell the easter egg company where to put the frontier logo... not even a decal for players.

Cancelling development just still bribing content creators.. this company goes to new heights every day. I'm amazed truly.
Are you serious?

I'm like 99% sure the marketing department came up with this idea, presumably using funds from the marketing budget.

Businesses have divisions and separate budgets. If they didn't spend the money on this, the marketing department would spend it on something else and it wouldn't have gone to the development team for ED.
 
Could you elaborate? I mean can you explain why you think so? Can you define good in an objective way? Is there a reason all things "not good" are better left unsaid? Do you think it solves anything, the quietness? I'm sincere.
No, I can't define good in an objective way, and possibly I'm wrong in the above statement.. In this particular case I don't think it serves any purpose to post videos negative of the game and the company. This is their modus operandi and I don't think that any amount of criticism on youtube or the forum is going to change that. People who have been around a long time ought to know that and shouldn't expect a change... People that are new might get seriously concerned about their beloved game.

Still I come back to the point that this is a game and a company that has almost consistently received the same criticism as long as the game has existed. They might not publish a bug free game, but they have consistently published a game for close to 8 years.. Somewhat on topic seeing OA's channel this is something SC has failed to do.. What do you prefer a space game you can still play 8 years later or a tech demo that occasionally is completely unplayable or that occasionally resets your game?

But to conclude.. I probably should just remove the forum from my browser, all the manure here is really getting on my nerves lately..! :D :D :D
 
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Are you serious?

I'm like 99% sure the marketing department came up with this idea, presumably using funds from the marketing budget.

Businesses have divisions and separate budgets. If they didn't spend the money on this, the marketing department would spend it on something else and it wouldn't have gone to the development team for ED.
I also don't see how one could possibly criticize a company for sending out easter eggs.. :D :D :D
 
I really wish FD would be more open about their plans, and listening to Art i can almost hear his frustration and not being able to be honest and give any sort of real information.
And that's exactly what OA was talking about, which is why I don't understand the hate for him stating the obvious.

Actually, last year he came in and said that he's no longer that pushed about Elite, that he's more focused on gaming in general, that he was planning on winding down his coverage for Elite videos, maybe putting out a one a month "checking in on Elite" one, for the subscribers he has who still play it.

Something must have come up that's caused that notion to change, and it would be cynical of me to suggest its clickthroughs and revenue.
I see nothing wrong with trying to expand one's horizons in gaming. He's not "pushing" ED that much because there's been no major content for years and no communication with the game's plans for the future. That's not Ant's fault - that's FD's.

100 worked on this? They still do?
It used to be 300, but then Xerxes happened, someone got kicked down a well, and I guess you know the rest.
 
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