ObsidianAnt: Frontier - What The HECK Is Going On With Elite Dangerous?
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It's you Runzelspielchen, isnt it?
I’m confused, this was written in the forum.
1. thank you
2. "seems like" is an assumption not an "i know" statement
3. sorry to hear that, really
4. Im happy with it, maybe I will give him a name .. one day.
I agree that the title was a bit click-baity, but like others have said, the general message is that he believes FD is not confident in their ability to deliver content that they announce in advance. He has quotes from FD themselves to back up this claim. In a debate, there's always a counter-point and I haven't seen anyone counter this claim yet. It's all just attacks on this being DOOM. Well, the quotes he listed say they don't release information unless they are confident they can do whatever that might be. No doubt there's been a lot of silence at the start of this year with vague promises of exciting things on the horizon, but not much else. So, rather than attack the DOOM what's your (anyone's) evidence that they are confident in being able to provide content?
Try "Percy"... It was quite a popular name in my youth... (I called mine Roman, for obvious reasons)
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Oh sweet summer child
guess everything is better than "princess fiona"
For an endeavour of ED’s nature, the position that OA is asserting that FD holds is in fact perfectly normal and reasonable.
I assert that what is being illustrated is the extent to what different people’s expectations are aligned or misaligned with an endeavour of ED’s nature.
If one’s expectations are aligned, then if what OA is saying is correct, FD are just being sensible.
If one’s expectations are misaligned, then what OA is saying is worrying.
That's a good point. OA also brought up some other games though that do offer their community at least a vague roadmap. I'd say that Microsoft flight simulator is a pretty grand scope as well and they have a pretty detailed roadmap, probably too much so.
I think OA made some good points and they're something to consider. I also believe that FD is still a bit on edge from the initial release of EDO and is being overly cautious in what they release to the community. Personally, I'm leaning more towards them being overly cautious. Part of that may be my naive hope that they'll release EDO on PS5 and Series X/S sometime in the next year or two. For that to happen, they need to make some progress on EDO and revive it a bit more.
So how exactly do you form opinions without input and information, that being from Youtubers, reading books, talking to other humans etc.? You could answer that the ability to form opinions is coded into our DNA, which it probably is, but it still needs a few bits of information to work with.
Youtube contains all sorts of crap, and the definition of "crap" even warries from person to person, but it's not all crap, and when it comes to OA we're far from crap. Crap, in my personal perspective, is something like a teenage girl telling other teenagers how to use botox, or the guy with the wild staring eyes claiming that Earth is flat as a pancake. You also have youtubers like Vsauce, and I wouldn't exactly call him an influencer, unless he "influences" people to stop and think about those everyday things we never have time to wonder about, like what it takes for something to be truly random. Personally I appreciate youtubers like him, and there are many.
So how do you form opinions?Playing Elite?
Didn't you know, the 'influencers' are helpful and informative, as long as they agree with the bosses?
It's the other side of the 'people can't think for themselves' coin, but irony is lost on white knights.
It does make me somewhat sad to see OA has soured on the game. I remember back in 2.1 and 2.2 watching his videos with absolute fascination as I started my own journey. Now I'm probably even more jaded than he is since he is at least still playing the game and making content albeit negative content. An occasional scroll through this cognitive cesspit aka the forum is as close I get these days. Fly dangerous, Iguess. O7
What are you talking about?
Like literally define "a future".
For me, even if we pretend that no more plot developments ever happen and no more patches ever release. The servers are still up and the game is still live.
However in addition to having all the infrastructure still running they are also continuing to update the plot, which requires an active developer presence to move the stuff arround. They are actively promoting the game with streams and dev content. Aaaannnnnddd they are still making changes to the codebase.
What is the evidence for doom? A bunch of tinfoil and jack all else. Just vague negative statements.
The doom side has nothing better than the evidence for antivax or chemtrail nonsense believers can muster. It should be embarrassing to be part of that community.
Yet folks who point out that simple set of fact are labeled "white knights" because apparently living by the evidence is "woke" or some such nonsense.
Flat earth has better evidence that Elite doomers.
Some good points yourself there as well.
I’d imagine you’re right about FD still being a bit on edge from the initial EDO release. I think there’s a whole load of other stuff going on as well, and what we’re experiencing is the cumulative effects.
Anyway, as we’re having a sensible conversation, something I think that would be interesting to consider in more detail is if we assume that my assertion in the previous post is accurate, then how could FD improve their communication?
It illustrates the problem with a lot of the more general simplistic suggestions. What ever FD communicate will be taken in different ways by different people depending on their degree of expectation alignment. Are there ways they could communicate that would account for that and work well in practicality?
were you responding top my post? because I can really see the connection between your post and mine.
I'll be honest, I don't remember who I said that about, but I'll always be up for stuphz hazzing!
Here take my stuffz. Remember to shake out the moth balls before putting on the tattered boxer shorts.I'll be honest, I don't remember who I said that about, but I'll always be up for stuphz hazzing!
Yup,
You claim they must show the game has a future.
I'm honestly at a loss as to what you think that means as a future to me would include anytning other than the game shuts down.
Given the evidence of active development, active promotion and continued service availability against the evidence of? Tinfoil? Nutters?
What has you worried about the future?
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