ObsidianAnt: Frontier - What The HECK Is Going On With Elite Dangerous?

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I think you need to look at your key bindings. This works for me.
Also check on the setting in the right panel; logaritmic or linear
I'm talking about SRV hologram scaling while zoomed out.. Look at SRV hologram on SRVs scanner.

Horizons Screenshot (240).png OdysseyScreenshot (245).png in Odyssey SRV hologram on scanner doesn't scale down as you zoom out.
 
ObsidianAnt's angle is sort-of understandable.
He wants to be kept more up to date, and have the security that there will be upcoming content - and has the strong impression he'll get that security with a Roadmap.

He'd like Star Citizen style communications and roadmaps and all that, but from what I recall from watching SaltEMike, in the end it really doesn't matter.
I get the impression those roadmaps are all fluff and just a carefully managed Shell Game of moving tasks around the roadmap to keep the audience busy/satiated.

I'm sure FDev understands that what people experience right now will impact future sales. No doubt they noticed that with ARX after the Odyssey launch.
It seems to me that Frontier as a company is intrinsically motivated to deliver. It's what they did deliver with the near-dozen updates.

FDev even clarified that the cancellation of the console release of this expansion was to further the plot -- which to me is a blatant admission we're getting Odyssey specific content Soon™!
 
Even Drew Wager left with a sour taste in his mouth and he was one of the earliest supporters of Elite dangerous but the trolls haven't found anything to complain about on his participation in the forum.
Drew got a lot in his direction as well. The source of that wasn’t his videos, it was other people posting (and also misrepresenting) his videos.
 
Did CIG send you a (limited edition) picture of one?
Really does that make things any better, regardless of company or development for the end user, small mindedness..

(This lad has a station named after him, Have you done that in any game let alone a supposed AAA)?
 
I totally agree with this, but this implies that Frontier is setting scuttling charges to purposefully sink their own ship. What if instead Frontier hit an iceberg (the Odyssey launch), and while they know they are taking on water, they have no idea just how bad it actually is. They may even be actively trying to save the ship, but that doesn't mean the ship isn't sinking.

I'm not saying it IS sinking, but it's mighty hard to deny that Frontier did indeed hit that proverbial iceberg. The question is, just how bad is the damage? The console and terrain generation compartments have already flooded. Was sealing them off enough the save the rest of the ship? I guess only time will tell.
They drove straight into the 'Iceberg' after being repeatedly told to avoid said Iceberg. Some people wanted 'space legs' but not all and they bolted a cheap game onto a AAA game it looks pretty obvious, the running especially.
Too many opinions for it to matter any more, it's messed up and there is no excuse for it other than gain.

See you in 3 months if there is still a forum.
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Not sure what all the fuss is about. Obsidian Ant seems like a decent fellow and if I recall correctly, started out just playing the game the same way many of us did, not as a YouTube hypester, influencer, drama-queen, or whatever you prefer. 🤷‍♂️

I have differing opinions and perspectives from him from time to time, as I do with most everyone else. Such is life.

Have fun.
 
My wife and I have just one question, having seen the video.

Are those two ringed planets illuminated by a pink/violet sun for real, between five and six minutes in?

She's often sceptical about various configurations of systems, and those planets, so seemingly close together, just don't seem credible for a cartographically accurate space game.
 
Amazing how OA has become so hated on these forums. Back in the days the whole forum was stroking his trumpet daily. 'Oh, I love your voice.', 'Great video OA.' 'You totally deserve having a station named after you, after all you've done for this game!'. Bla bla bla.
Says a whole lot more about these forums than about OA really.
I think one of the earlier trolls in this thread said something like "He's just using the hate to get clicks" or something or nother.
As someone that's been following OA for a quite a while, I can definitely say that is NOT how he operates. Maybe some others, but not him.
Just goes to show how bad things have gotten, and how far these "white knights" have buried their head in the sand. Luckily that's mostly just here on the forums. As OA stated, and from what I can tell, Reddit and Youtube are completely different stories at least.
 
I think one of the earlier trolls in this thread said something like "He's just using the hate to get clicks" or something or nother.
As someone that's been following OA for a quite a while, I can definitely say that is NOT how he operates. Maybe some others, but not him.
Just goes to show how bad things have gotten, and how far these "white knights" have buried their head in the sand. Luckily that's mostly just here on the forums. As OA stated, and from what I can tell, Reddit and Youtube are completely different stories at least.
Twelve months ago he was one of ED's greatest assets, his videos bought many people to the game. Some of the recent comments about him (particularly in this thread) have been disgusting. He's done more for ED than 99% of posters in this thread.
 
Amazing how OA has become so hated on these forums. Back in the days the whole forum was stroking his trumpet daily. 'Oh, I love your voice.', 'Great video OA.' 'You totally deserve having a station named after you, after all you've done for this game!'. Bla bla bla.
Says a whole lot more about these forums than about OA really.
I said that earlier. OA was amazing as long as he was speaking the stuff they wanted him to say.
He stopped being cool as soon as he voiced criticism. Valid, constructive.... it doesn't matter at all.

Those people are not after the truth or honesty, they are after confirmation of what they say. Everything that goes against it get discarded. OA is a SC paid shill, 24fps is the highest a human eye can perceive, the bad reviews on steam for the DLC are an organized review bombing....
And yes, I literally read all that on this forum from various posters. With no exaggeration. And it gets thumbs up by a lot of others.

It's a circlejerk of positive bias, which fight a circlejerk of negative bias. And everything in the middle get immediately assigned a side, because no reasonable human being can stay outside of the ridiculous extremes, apparently.
 
Those people are not after the truth or honesty, they are after confirmation of what they say. Everything that goes against it get discarded.
Rather often than not, there is no definite truth. What we have are different points of view. But that's already too much for some. When you criticize the game and/or Frontier's development philosophy, you'll quickly encounter a lot of hurt fanboy feelies.

I follow OA for quite a few years now. I have no reason to doubt that he was a genuine enthusiast. His tone changed after the release of Odyssey. Which also happened to receive very negative press. And very negative user reviews. And shrunk the player base, instead of growing it.

Some people like it, and that's fine. But why some seem to think that all the negativity is just a big conspiracy aimed against their favorite toy is beyond me.

The only part I understand - it's indeed not constructive to repeat the same criticism over and over again. FDev does not listen to user feedback anyway, and made it pretty clear that they have no intention whatsoever to involve the community in any upcoming development decisions.

So all we can do is to sit back and wait what the future will bring. Those who still enjoy the game keep playing it. Those who don't moved on. Maybe Frontier will deliver something good one day that will bring many of them back. Or maybe they won't. Right now, there are indeed no signs pointing in that direction. But who knows.

I guess OA will be a happy man if Frontier one day prove him wrong. So am I. But I'm not holding my breath.
 
It's a circlejerk of positive bias, which fight a circlejerk of negative bias. And everything in the middle get immediately assigned a side, because no reasonable human being can stay outside of the ridiculous extremes, apparently.
Pretty much sums it up. I'd add there's a quite-extreme wont for "balance" demanded of those offering criticism (yet, when feedback is positive, I don't see the same wont for 'balance', go figure), as if somehow the points raised are somehow mitigated by not saying something positive...

Generally, those offering up negative feedback won't lace it with a positive "balance" about unrelated things because... checks notes... they're not related.

I mean, it also implies the things being seen as positive are universal, which they most definitely aren't.

Incidentally, i don't expect positive feedback to be "balanced" with negative feedback, or vice versa. Making singular points is entirely valid.
 
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As pointless as forum trolls and white knights too!! 😂

I said that earlier. OA was amazing as long as he was speaking the stuff they wanted him to say.
He stopped being cool as soon as he voiced criticism. Valid, constructive.... it doesn't matter at all.

Those people are not after the truth or honesty, they are after confirmation of what they say. Everything that goes against it get discarded. OA is a SC paid shill, 24fps is the highest a human eye can perceive, the bad reviews on steam for the DLC are an organized review bombing....
And yes, I literally read all that on this forum from various posters. With no exaggeration. And it gets thumbs up by a lot of others.

It's a circlejerk of positive bias, which fight a circlejerk of negative bias. And everything in the middle get immediately assigned a side, because no reasonable human being can stay outside of the ridiculous extremes, apparently.
Well, I used to look forward to his videos. I understand there isn't much to talk about right now, and he needs to put out videos, so might as well talk about the lack of anything to talk about, but it's been a trend of whining videos. I don't blame him because he is trying to make a channel about the game and the game dev moves at a snails pace. But as a member of the audience... well, I look forward to commander Burr videos now.
 
I totally agree with this, but this implies that Frontier is setting scuttling charges to purposefully sink their own ship. What if instead Frontier hit an iceberg (the Odyssey launch), and while they know they are taking on water, they have no idea just how bad it actually is. They may even be actively trying to save the ship, but that doesn't mean the ship isn't sinking.

I'm not saying it IS sinking, but it's mighty hard to deny that Frontier did indeed hit that proverbial iceberg. The question is, just how bad is the damage? The console and terrain generation compartments have already flooded. Was sealing them off enough the save the rest of the ship? I guess only time will tell.

Apparently they spent a whole year continuing development, which does express some intent on their part. The situation is more detailed by frontier having the financial success consideration as well, we only have the functional game to care about. As well as balancing their own internal capability with the difficulty of correcting mistakes. With an overhanging demon that frontier have never ever in their history been a "when its ready" company, its always been the most extreme minimum possible work and its done. Spending the whole year working on odd which they can't sell again must have been excruciating for them.

When they gave up on consoles is probably when they called it, its quite a profound decision to make.. actually give up on your prime function as a company because its really that bad. ?

Disclaimer, horizons is still amazing. In the last few weeks im playing it more with the mindset of finished single player game. Was even tempted to buy arx last night.. but hell no the wallet is still well frozen to frontier given their entire performance. I think for the notes for 10 in odd they boasted from high how proud they were for delivering space legs like they promised, so graciously meeting our need for them. No arx..
 
Amazing how OA has become so hated on these forums. Back in the days the whole forum was stroking his trumpet daily. 'Oh, I love your voice.', 'Great video OA.' 'You totally deserve having a station named after you, after all you've done for this game!'. Bla bla bla.
Says a whole lot more about these forums than about OA really.
i've seen his videos when i started to play ED, while seeing a few issues on the game being ignored by him and was like "wow how can this guy be SO POSITIVE in the middle of all this chaos?".
And i've seen people on this forum like that aswell, some of them are still like that, some have partially changed and some just "went with the flow" (positive when due, but mostly negative cause the game is not on a good state for some)

OA's change for me came after odyssey, and the many, many stuff FDev got wrong, you could feel in his voice the disappointment, it was almost sad(if i had a heart).
Then he started shifting his tone, and rightfully so, just to be bashed by those who were there cheering each video when it was all fun and games.


I see that OA had a positive approach back then, and now he have a balanced approach, and again, rightfully so. He is still one of the most sensible ED youtubers out there imo, but it is hard to remain positive when all you see is broken things being ignored for months/years/dropped, then radio silence RIGHT AFTER PROMISSING MORE COMMS.

Hell he could be way harsher on the game/FDev if he wanted to, odyssey earned it and FDev is, imo(always good to point out so i dont get forum dads correcting me always) taking the wrong approach in comms and dropping issues they introduced with the "biggest expansion yet".

For me this is the same as it was pointed out countless times on the forums or this threads, the famous "if he isn't with me, he is against me" and that work for both sides, knights and doomsayers. OA does not deserve now the "clickbaity youtuber" title, hes being reasonable and most of the points he made can't be agued with, else people here would've done instead of attacking him.

@Video, he is right, FDev is terrible at comms, at fixing stuff also, but they did a great game that most of us like to play, and most of us(i suppose) want it to keep going.

but hey i can't play properly the expansion i've paid for the past 11 months, still waiting on the "many improvements and fixes" to be relevant enough to keep their promise of running on horizons-capable hardware, so what do i know?
 
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