Does that mean the posts complaining about "other" games sucking the cash away from ED will stop?
If you're wondering where Frontier's attention is directed at...
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Viajero
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Another bit that stood out is the statement about Lemnis Gate being put on an accelerated amortisation schedule given the lack of retention/growth after the launch. One of the reasons to put products on accelerated amortisation schedules is when you think the product is mainly going to generate taxable revenues on the short term and/or "die" relatively soon so you can get more tax deductions early on as well; instead of spreading them more evenly to future years where you actually may not have too much taxable income to deduct from.
Well, Elite or EDO weren´t explicitly mentioned to be under such an accelerated amortisation schedule, unlike Lemnis Gate. To the contrary the way Elite and JWE were referred to suggested a more classic depreciation mode for those. Which indicates FDEV still expects more consistent Elite (and JWE) taxable revenues for a reasonable time ahead.
Well, Elite or EDO weren´t explicitly mentioned to be under such an accelerated amortisation schedule, unlike Lemnis Gate. To the contrary the way Elite and JWE were referred to suggested a more classic depreciation mode for those. Which indicates FDEV still expects more consistent Elite (and JWE) taxable revenues for a reasonable time ahead.
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So ED has come out of a Boom state and just survived an Infrastructure Failure?
And the forum feels like an anarchy faction, which would also explain why it's not doing so well since Odyssey.
Luckily, it exists in Utopian space where we can re-educate the forum and get them off the onion head they've been addicted to for years and bring order and enlightenment to ED as it re-stabilizes.
Far from the cannibalistic criminals that make up some other powers.
Far from the cannibalistic criminals that make up some other powers.
They probably wouldn’t have said much about the ODY expansion until it was at least well into the initial design stage so I’m not reading too much into this, although I do think that Elite is “under evaluation” by frontier, and they will be wary of stiffer competition now than 5 years ago.
On thing to consider. ED may be a labor of love funded by the other studio projects. As such it gets to enjoy a more leisurely approach to its development that might otherwise be compromised by demands from share holders and a release deadline.
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wat?
I'd be amazed if you can find any amount of funding since the game released tbh. I have no idea what that would even tell you.
The rest of that post is you just going down your own rabbit hole.
Viajero
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Heh, maybe, but Elite/EDO not being in an accelerated amortisation schedule is actually newsInteresting slant on 'no news is good news'
Heh, maybe, but Elite/EDO not being in an accelerated amortisation schedule is actually news
Could it be that Elite dangerous has no debt to write off because it was funded by kickstarter as opposed to the sources of funding to develop the other titles?
so no need for it to be amortized. maybe?
Yes, although it has also been a good earner until ODY
Viajero
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Well the comment in the video is related to EDO. This is not about debt but about amortisation of the development expenses. It has to be amortized. Which makes sense since it probably had a significant amount of dedicated ressources allocated to it for several years before release. The Elite development expenses, as in the original base game, have been probably amortized already, or close to be if not.
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I don't have a comment on this, but need to say:-
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Muwahahahaha!
A bit early, with only two titles down (unless I'm forgetting any), but I have kind of been wondering whether Foundry partners are feeling they are getting worth out of FF as a publisher... Other than a brief mention by Laura Dale, who thought it was a really interesting concept, I don't think I've seen any exposure for Lemnis Gate anywhere, other than in the Frontier bacon I get (...and have not opted out from), as an Elite: Dangerous customer... :7 (EDIT: I suppose that base of customers for all Frontier's titles, is the demographically self-selected reach sought, more than "new" eyeballs...)
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It's still amortized regardless of how it was funded. Amortization refers to the value of the asset decreasing over time rather than how it was paid for.
Kickstarter only funded a small part of the initial development costs. IIRC costs in 2014 already were at ~£8.000.000 while Kickstarter only raised £1.500.000. Since then they put considerably more money into the game...
Nah, nonsense took over english a while ago...
I haven't read through the thread and this is my own parsing of the video:
The main takeaway as far as Elite Dangerous is concerned is the comment made by, I believe David Braben (I had to use captions), about having spoken specifically about Elite Dangerous in other calls, so I don't think there is any justification to anyone suggesting that Elite Dangerous hasn't factored in their discussions. Also where Elite Dangerous doesn't appear, other games also do not so there's nothing to be made from that either. The only place where I think Elite Dangerous is conspicuously absent is the revenue chart. I can't suggest as to the why, though the chart tracks historical data so isn't reflective of future developments, though I guess one could twist it into doom by suggesting that it only features currently developed games.. which I'm not sure would be true as I think JWE2 supercedes JWE? And that game is on there.. Either way, I will say that I don't know what to make of its absence, or if there is anything to make from its absence.
Otherwise, all the many mentions that talk of supporting their current roster and taking a long term view all apply to Elite Dangerous too. Especially noted was the reason that the Warhammer game was put back into FY 24 due to an opportunity in concert with Games Workshop to make for a better and more long lasting game, also noting that these decisions that relate to r&d/growth will be looked at in hindsight as the better decision, speaking of ten years from launch, specifically of the Warmhammer game.
I see no reason for more concern and the talk about upcoming support for their current roster of games to be announced in coming weeks, months & years, again, applies to Elite Dangerous. Frontier seem to be in good shape and I hope their other games are successful, we only know what we are told and right now that isn't much, which again, leaves a vacuum for doomers to fill, and who knows I'm sure one day they will get their result. But this video ain't it.