Enough fuel for 3 jumps is all you need, jumponium acts as a useful backup but I have never needed to use it to get out of trouble yet.
Well damn... lesson learned.. head back to repair after a hard landing...
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Enough fuel for 3 jumps is all you need, jumponium acts as a useful backup but I have never needed to use it to get out of trouble yet.
Yeah, anything over 1G can be a hazard, especially when you're under-sizing the thrusters, and also especially if you've been landing on a lot of low-gravity moons lately. I've found that extra caution is needed if you haven't done high gravity in a while, and it's easy to forget that even 1.7 G is technically "high gravity" if you have a low thrust ratio.
I've always felt that the #1 killer of explorers is complacency.
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did they change anything about it since horizon? because when i tested back than hullengineering had no effect on crash damage on surfaces (which is a percentage of your hulls hitpoint)?
I fly a DBX and it has about 70ly range. I kept the lightweight alloy bulkhead, but G5 heavy duty with deep plating. Zero additional mass, but about 50% increase in HP.
I have the hvy dty dp plt bulkheads. Though I don't do a lot of high G landings.
I also have an auxiliary fuel tank on the 'conda as I almost had to call a fuel rat during the Palin unlock (run of brown dwarfs) and I've been slightly paranoid about it ever since.
I also have an auxiliary fuel tank on the 'conda as I almost had to call a fuel rat during the Palin unlock (run of brown dwarfs) and I've been slightly paranoid about it ever since.
I lost maybe 20 million in data the same way probably about 9 months ago. Today I turned in about 450 million in exploration data carried by a Krait Phantom that could have a 72ly+ jump range, but it has a 70.48ly unladen jump range, 662mj shields, a 1D repair limpet controller weight 0.5t and a 4t cargo rack I could synthesis 4 limpets into if needed. Also heavy duty grade 5 deep plate light alloy hull. I tested this crash landing into Achenar 3. It's a 6G planet in the bubble. Came out of it with 35% hull left and repaired all the damage once back in orbit. Sometimes I'm tempted to reduce the shields since I've never lost more than 45% of them, but I made it through the Abyss recently where there are many 126ly+ jumps to do (FSD injections), so the jump range is clearly good enough to do almost anything needed.
Complacency and zoning out is the killer while exploring.
Complacency and zoning out is the killer while exploring.
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Also don't forget that the Hull Seals are also willing to jump out and repair you 'in situ' - wherever you are in the Galaxy...That was the norm before FCs existed...
PS - I have a theory that if you have somewhat decent shields (I think I had 5D / Enhanced Low Power on this Conda) - put 4 pips to SYS - and LAND FLAT - you can escape with only bruises...This video is after I had 'landed' once on "Lithobreaker" (then the highest landable at 11 g) - and wanted to reposition - I thought getting some altitude was a good idea....After determining afterwards that I had a rotary on my HOTAS giving CONSTANT DOWN thrust inputs - I now DISABLE vertical thrusters completely (ie remove keybinds) whenever I am going to land on anything > 3 g..
PS - I have a theory that if you have somewhat decent shields (I think I had 5D / Enhanced Low Power on this Conda) - put 4 pips to SYS - and LAND FLAT - you can escape with only bruises...This video is after I had 'landed' once on "Lithobreaker" (then the highest landable at 11 g) - and wanted to reposition - I thought getting some altitude was a good idea....After determining afterwards that I had a rotary on my HOTAS giving CONSTANT DOWN thrust inputs - I now DISABLE vertical thrusters completely (ie remove keybinds) whenever I am going to land on anything > 3 g..
If you plan an exploration expedition, then why do you want to squeeze every light-year out of your ship? A shield and AFMU (preferably two, one small to repair the bigger one) might safe the day. Besides that, there are so many planets to explore, you can just skip planets with high gravity. To be honest I lost my Asp Explorer in The Void and had to restart from Jaques Station again. Same situation, I was in a hurry and too tired. So now I make sure I still have about 5 km. of height after I come out of glide and I make shallow dives to the surface. Lesson learned.
Because sometimes exploring leads you to places where the stars are far apart, very far, oh and fyi AFMU doesn't have mass and doesn't affect jump range.
How do you know the value of it? is there a display I have missed?
Because when the game reset me back to the nearest dock and gave me the option to file a claim on my lost ship, it also gave me the option to file a seperate claim on the value of "lost cartography data" ...
Which, oddly enough, I still didnt get the credits for...
Why does it let you file a "claim" for "lost data" if its not gonna pay out on that?
Never seen that in all my rebuys, it has never given refunds for lost cartography data and there hasen't been any mention of that change in the recent updates, now I am going to have to die and see if they have changed it!
I see where you are getting confused, that's not a claim, that's a loss, a direct loss. It's just telling you how much you lost!
Ah!
Ok well that makes sense...
Technically, I haven't died since... to see it again...
Hence, I didnt understand what it was originally, and basically didnt have any plans to see it again, at least not for a looooong time! LOL
Oh but the good news though is that I bookmarked that original ELW that I first discovered, so I knew where it was and went back and rescanned it and everything else within its System... then set out from there exploring somr more and have since found at least another half dozen ELW's; maybe just over a dozen terraformable WW's and a whole lot of other terraformables... and probably have enough data to have recovered from that loss and then some... and I havent taken even 1% of damage yet, and I'm still going! 
Yeah, the amount you see is the base value of the bodies you scanned because it doesn't include any discovery bonuses, so if you actually turned the data in you would have got a lot more, two or three times at least, it doesn't reflect your actual loss in game, you need to use a tool like EDDiscovery or one of the others that keeps a running total. You actually don't really need to bookmark them if you are on PC, while you lose the cartography data and first discover tags etc your visited stars cache still updates, so you can just follow your own path back out to tag them all, and of course programs like EDDiscovery do keep track of everything you visit.