Well known animals - General Public Knowledge

I know, another list! Starting a list of animals that would be generally well known to the general public that are not currently in the game. Not including flying birds (can include wading birds) and no fully marine animals (manatees are marine animals!) Also no extinct animal.

Starting this off with an animal I have glossed over a bit in past threads - the Porcupine. Be it old world or new world species, I'd say the general public has an idea of what a porcupine would be. They might be wrong in exact species, but they're well known.
 
I think this is an interesting idea, since most famous animals are already in the game. By this I mean the animals that are not just well-known, but also large and unique looking enough for a non-zoo expert to know their generic name beyond the 'family' level (i.e. they won't say 'monkey' but 'baboon'). Still there are some that would be famous enough for even a non-expert to get excited to get them.

Some animals that I think would fit this list are :
  • Pelican
  • Baboon
  • Dromedary Camel
  • Emu
  • Donkey
  • Sloth
  • Skunk
  • Black Bear
  • Wild Boar
  • Fox
  • Walrus
  • Sea Turtle
 
Are we talking in broad terms or with specific types? Because there is a camel and two rhinos in game for instance, and i think the general public will be familiar with both types of animals but the dromedary and the black rhinoceros are well known.

But if we are talking in general terms then:
  • Ducks
  • Swans
  • Geese
  • Pheasants / Turkey
  • Pelicans
  • Storks
  • Porcupines
  • Skunks
  • Squirrels
  • Rabbits
  • Sloth
  • Raccoon
  • Fox (more likely red fox)
  • Red deer
  • Wild boar
  • Ferrets / stoats and the kind
  • Chameleons
  • Cobras
  • Green anaconda / python / boas (large snakes)
  • Walrus (is a marine animal but we have seals in game so...)
  • Alpacas
  • Goats and sheep
  • Some kind of donkey
  • Bats
 
Ah, yes the sloth! Very good addition for sure, not sure how I over looked that. Red Fox and maybe the Red Deer work too. This is more for general broad types. Not sure if the general public would know the difference between a camel and a dromedary, but it's at least on the very edge of this general idea. Now that I'm thinking about it the raccoon as well, possibly.

I really did bring this thread up because as it's pointed out, the most famous animals are already in the game (again, not talking about birds and marine animals). I feel like we, as mostly animal enthusiasts, would probably be familiar with dozens more animals at the very least, but FD probably can count on sales from us with out too much concern. I worry that won't be enough though. What land animals could be of enough interest that would grab the attention of a more casual or general player? I made the comment that to have an extended life, Frontier will likely need to introduce either flying avian or marine animals, but I'm trying to see what else might bring familiarity? Of course, that doesn't guarantee sales, but it helps.

I feel like the general public will see the Maned Wolf and feel like it's already covered with another wolf (or Red Fox if we got that). An Emu might just be "another ostrich type animal" to some a lot of people. Any of the remaining bears would just be another bear to a lot of people. Even the Red River Hog, which is an animal commonly found in zoos, may just be another pig to some.

Of course, a lot of that may also vary by region of the world.

For sure:
Porcupine
Sloth
Red Fox
Walrus (another good one!)

Possibly:
Dromedary
Emu
 
I think some animals are a question of the Region where you are coming from.
I would say:
Wild Boar
Red Deer
Red Fox
European Hare
Goose
Swan
Duck
Pelican
Heron
Vulture
Dromedary
Emu
Sloth
Porcupine
Armadillo
American Black Bear (at least for NA people)
Spectacled Bear (at least for me as most of the Zoos I have visited as a child had them)
Walrus
Raccoon
Skunk
Baboon
Coyote
Jackal
Wombat
Kiwi
Yak
 
Wallaby(s)
Wombat(s)
Tasmanian devil
Emu
Echidna(s)
Pelican(s)
Duck(s)
Swan(s)
Geese
Serval
Lots of monkeys
Dromedary
Coyote
Baboon(s)
Sloth(s)
Chameleon(s)
Cobra(s)
Smaller tortoises
…… plenty more.
 
I honestly think the idear for this thread is more then just a bit flawed.
Assuming that the general consumer doesnt know much more then ~150-200 animals is pretty disrespectful to them and just sounds elitist.
I know where the idear is coming from, that most famous and popular zoo animals are allready in the game, but again that just a dismissive thought regarding both variety in zoos and again the general consumer.
For example, from the 100 most common animals in EAZA zoos, just 13 are actually in the game, those being the meerkat, lama, ostritch, lion, boa constrictor, ring tailed lemure, fallow deer, european peafowl, green iguana, bactrian camel, asian small clawed otter, capybara and greater flamingo.
For some noteable habitat examples that arnt in the game we got the wild boar, red deer, roe deer, golden pheasent, silver pheasenty, racoon, southamerican coati, mute swan, black swan, white stork, indian crested porcupine, common marmoset, patagonian mara, cotton top tamarin, mufflon, emu, benetts wallaby, greater rhea, wood duck, mallard, muscovy duck, mandarin duck, barnacle goose, bar headed goose, many domestoc animals like the pot bellied pig, kamerun sheep, domestic donkey, guinea pig, rabbits, chicken, goose or the most common animal, the african dwarf goat and much more.
And thats just the top 100 in the eaza with many not mentioned cause im lazy.
I could easily list atleast 50 more general well know zoo animals like the red fox, wolverine, atleast 10 monkeys, black buck, nilgai, yak, takin, muntjak, skunk, martens, nene, peres david deer, wombat, tassie devil, kiwi, echidna, tree kangaroo, fossa, striped hyena, small cats, the other bears, maned wolf, tree porcupines,... the list goes on and on and i think you get my point
 
I know where the idear is coming from, that most famous and popular zoo animals are allready in the game, but again that just a dismissive thought regarding both variety in zoos and again the general consumer.
I'm... really not sure if I can agree with this. Just because an animal is common in zoos doesn't mean that it's recognizable to the general public. In my experience, the general public (including friends, family members, people I have seen participate in online discussions outside of zoo/animal-related communities, random passersby overhead in zoos) are only genuinely familiar with the upper echelon of well known animals. They can tell a lion from a tiger and a hippo from a rhino, sure, but once you extend much beyond that things seem to get very murky.

Of the species you listed, I am very confident that the average American, at least, has never heard of a mara, rhea, mouflon, nilgai, takin, muntjac, marten, wombat, tree kangaroo, maned wolf, striped hyena, spectacled/sloth bear, or even the coatimundi and nene - species found in this country! Those that would recognize the wolverine, Tasmanian devil, fossa or echidna largely only do so based on their pop culture character representations, and almost certainly would not be able to identify the actual animal out of a lineup. I think the average American would identify a wallaby as a kangaroo and an emu as an ostrich, and while storks and swans are absolutely household names I don't think they could tell them apart from cranes or geese. And I'm quite certain that aside from, like, maybe mandrills, all monkeys (and some apes and sometimes lemurs) are just "monkeys" and all deer are just "deer", and any cat smaller than a bobcat may as well not exist.

I guess it's possible that my sample is somehow incredibly skewed, or maybe in general Americans are just that much more out of touch with zoology compared to Europeans (a notion that I've generally found to be the case, but perhaps even more skewed than I thought?)

Ultimately if I were to try and come up with a list of zoo species not in the game that I'd expect the general American public (I know I keep honing in here but I do want to stress how much my analysis is going to be colored by my own experiences) to recognize both by name and by visual, I think it would be limited to:
  • Walrus
  • Sloth
  • Red fox
  • Skunk
  • Raccoon
  • Coyote
  • Armadillo
  • American black bear
  • Pelican
  • Porcupine, although I'm not sure how I'd separate the species. I think most people would recognize the NA porcupine and old world porcupines as porcupines (obviously no species designation), but maybe not South American ones.
  • Jackal by name and I think the majority of people know they're dogs but I'm not remotely certain they could identify them from a lineup of canids or would immediately say "jackal" if shown a picture of one and asked to identify the animal
  • various domestics
Notably, of these, only the walrus, sloth, and jackal are non-US species.
 
I'm... really not sure if I can agree with this. Just because an animal is common in zoos doesn't mean that it's recognizable to the general public. In my experience, the general public (including friends, family members, people I have seen participate in online discussions outside of zoo/animal-related communities, random passersby overhead in zoos) are only genuinely familiar with the upper echelon of well known animals. They can tell a lion from a tiger and a hippo from a rhino, sure, but once you extend much beyond that things seem to get very murky.

Of the species you listed, I am very confident that the average American, at least, has never heard of a mara, rhea, mouflon, nilgai, takin, muntjac, marten, wombat, tree kangaroo, maned wolf, striped hyena, spectacled/sloth bear, or even the coatimundi and nene - species found in this country! Those that would recognize the wolverine, Tasmanian devil, fossa or echidna largely only do so based on their pop culture character representations, and almost certainly would not be able to identify the actual animal out of a lineup. I think the average American would identify a wallaby as a kangaroo and an emu as an ostrich, and while storks and swans are absolutely household names I don't think they could tell them apart from cranes or geese. And I'm quite certain that aside from, like, maybe mandrills, all monkeys (and some apes and sometimes lemurs) are just "monkeys" and all deer are just "deer", and any cat smaller than a bobcat may as well not exist.

I guess it's possible that my sample is somehow incredibly skewed, or maybe in general Americans are just that much more out of touch with zoology compared to Europeans (a notion that I've generally found to be the case, but perhaps even more skewed than I thought?)

Ultimately if I were to try and come up with a list of zoo species not in the game that I'd expect the general American public (I know I keep honing in here but I do want to stress how much my analysis is going to be colored by my own experiences) to recognize both by name and by visual, I think it would be limited to:
  • Walrus
  • Sloth
  • Red fox
  • Skunk
  • Raccoon
  • Coyote
  • Armadillo
  • American black bear
  • Pelican
  • Porcupine, although I'm not sure how I'd separate the species. I think most people would recognize the NA porcupine and old world porcupines as porcupines (obviously no species designation), but maybe not South American ones.
  • Jackal by name and I think the majority of people know they're dogs but I'm not remotely certain they could identify them from a lineup of canids or would immediately say "jackal" if shown a picture of one and asked to identify the animal
  • various domestics
Notably, of these, only the walrus, sloth, and jackal are non-US species.
I Agree with this. I live in Europe and it is the same here. Most zoo visitors are calling tapir an elephant, mara to them is a rabbit and lemurs are mostly just “monkeys” etc.
People around here generally certainly never heard of things like muntjac, nilgai or takin. I sure did not before getting deeper into zoology thanks to PZ.
 
Next question: Why is it important that they know the animals?
Lets take the takin for example, why would anybody need to know what it is before its part of a dlc to appreciate it?
Its a beautiful golden mountain "cow" that looks like its right out of the land of myths and fairy tails. Im quite sure that if a Person still buys dlcs to this day, aslong as the animals are cute, pretty, cool or simply unique from what we allready have, they will propaply buy it.
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Ofcourse my view of what people know is propaply quite skewed as a german millenial from the area most densly populated by zoosbin the world, but from what ive seen most peoples animal knowledge really wasnt that bad.
We have to learn about our local ecosystems in school, zoos are common destinations for trips, dates and in parts just general public places. For example in the zoo berlin, i saw quite alot of people in suits and/or with laptops working or taking their break while sitting in the zoo.
Only rarly have i heard people label as something it isnt and even when it wasnt something outrageous like for example calling a rhea ostritch. Info cards are everywhere and most people seem to actually use them, atleast to look up the name of the animal.
But even then, the general audience isnt as stupid as it might seem, especally not for this game.
I Agree with this. I live in Europe and it is the same here. Most zoo visitors are calling tapir an elephant, mara to them is a rabbit and lemurs are mostly just “monkeys” etc.
People around here generally certainly never heard of things like muntjac, nilgai or takin. I sure did not before getting deeper into zoology thanks to PZ.
Foxy here even states herself as a great example.
Its allmost impossible to get into this game and be neither an animal nerd or on your way to become one. The only other real audience this game has are the true builders who do not care about the animals aslong as the props are good.
Most of us have Saalands Adventure "Zoo" (sorry if i butcherd the name) where hes over 2 years in without using a single animal in that giant project.
And its breathtaking.

And all the animals i mentioned for being common zoo animals are also in the same role like more well known animals, just to a lesser extend as id say its a fair assumptiom that the people buying dlcs for a zoo building game have been in a zoo before and still like to visit them, giving a boost for animals that they recognise from there.
Maybe they dont know what a coati is by name, but the funny ringtailed racoon monkey cat with the long nose for sure is something recognisable when you see them in a dlc.

Long story short: id really doubt being well known to what is presented as a persumed general audience with allmost no knowledge is of pretty much no importance for the 11+ dlc in a over 2,5 year old game.
Whoever still buys dlc really cant be put in this unkowledgeable sphere that would only buy what they know.
Afterall the SEA pack has a great feedback from most more casual players and i doubt that unknowing general aidience knew any of the animals in that pack besides maybe the giant leaf insect
 
Next question: Why is it important that they know the animals?
Lets take the takin for example, why would anybody need to know what it is before its part of a dlc to appreciate it?
Its a beautiful golden mountain "cow" that looks like its right out of the land of myths and fairy tails. Im quite sure that if a Person still buys dlcs to this day, aslong as the animals are cute, pretty, cool or simply unique from what we allready have, they will propaply buy it.
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Ofcourse my view of what people know is propaply quite skewed as a german millenial from the area most densly populated by zoosbin the world, but from what ive seen most peoples animal knowledge really wasnt that bad.
We have to learn about our local ecosystems in school, zoos are common destinations for trips, dates and in parts just general public places. For example in the zoo berlin, i saw quite alot of people in suits and/or with laptops working or taking their break while sitting in the zoo.
Only rarly have i heard people label as something it isnt and even when it wasnt something outrageous like for example calling a rhea ostritch. Info cards are everywhere and most people seem to actually use them, atleast to look up the name of the animal.
But even then, the general audience isnt as stupid as it might seem, especally not for this game.

Foxy here even states herself as a great example.
Its allmost impossible to get into this game and be neither an animal nerd or on your way to become one. The only other real audience this game has are the true builders who do not care about the animals aslong as the props are good.
Most of us have Saalands Adventure "Zoo" (sorry if i butcherd the name) where hes over 2 years in without using a single animal in that giant project.
And its breathtaking.

And all the animals i mentioned for being common zoo animals are also in the same role like more well known animals, just to a lesser extend as id say its a fair assumptiom that the people buying dlcs for a zoo building game have been in a zoo before and still like to visit them, giving a boost for animals that they recognise from there.
Maybe they dont know what a coati is by name, but the funny ringtailed racoon monkey cat with the long nose for sure is something recognisable when you see them in a dlc.

Long story short: id really doubt being well known to what is presented as a persumed general audience with allmost no knowledge is of pretty much no importance for the 11+ dlc in a over 2,5 year old game.
Whoever still buys dlc really cant be put in this unkowledgeable sphere that would only buy what they know.
Afterall the SEA pack has a great feedback from most more casual players and i doubt that unknowing general aidience knew any of the animals in that pack besides maybe the giant leaf insect
Certainly, while I think general public is not as knowledgeble as in your experience (and I am just basing this on my own experience which is the opposite), I wholeheartly agree that this should not stop Frontier to make DLCs with lesser known animals, quite the opposite actually. It would help to educate people about these species. (Can you believe I did not know what a Cassowary or a Babirusa is? Now they are my favourites, haha.)
 
Next question: Why is it important that they know the animals?
Lets take the takin for example, why would anybody need to know what it is before its part of a dlc to appreciate it?
Its a beautiful golden mountain "cow" that looks like its right out of the land of myths and fairy tails. Im quite sure that if a Person still buys dlcs to this day, aslong as the animals are cute, pretty, cool or simply unique from what we allready have, they will propaply buy it.
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Ofcourse my view of what people know is propaply quite skewed as a german millenial from the area most densly populated by zoosbin the world, but from what ive seen most peoples animal knowledge really wasnt that bad.
We have to learn about our local ecosystems in school, zoos are common destinations for trips, dates and in parts just general public places. For example in the zoo berlin, i saw quite alot of people in suits and/or with laptops working or taking their break while sitting in the zoo.
Only rarly have i heard people label as something it isnt and even when it wasnt something outrageous like for example calling a rhea ostritch. Info cards are everywhere and most people seem to actually use them, atleast to look up the name of the animal.
But even then, the general audience isnt as stupid as it might seem, especally not for this game.

Foxy here even states herself as a great example.
Its allmost impossible to get into this game and be neither an animal nerd or on your way to become one. The only other real audience this game has are the true builders who do not care about the animals aslong as the props are good.
Most of us have Saalands Adventure "Zoo" (sorry if i butcherd the name) where hes over 2 years in without using a single animal in that giant project.
And its breathtaking.

And all the animals i mentioned for being common zoo animals are also in the same role like more well known animals, just to a lesser extend as id say its a fair assumptiom that the people buying dlcs for a zoo building game have been in a zoo before and still like to visit them, giving a boost for animals that they recognise from there.
Maybe they dont know what a coati is by name, but the funny ringtailed racoon monkey cat with the long nose for sure is something recognisable when you see them in a dlc.

Long story short: id really doubt being well known to what is presented as a persumed general audience with allmost no knowledge is of pretty much no importance for the 11+ dlc in a over 2,5 year old game.
Whoever still buys dlc really cant be put in this unkowledgeable sphere that would only buy what they know.
Afterall the SEA pack has a great feedback from most more casual players and i doubt that unknowing general aidience knew any of the animals in that pack besides maybe the giant leaf insect
Why is it important? It’s honestly probably not, at least not to a huge degree. As long as there’s a nice, charismatic animal to slap on the banner (of which there are still tons, obviously), DLC will probably continue to sell as much as projected with or without the presence of household name animals. This just struck me as a novel means of listing and categorizing species, which we obviously all have a thing for.

And I’ll accept that this is likely very heavily regionally based, I conceded as much in my last post. But the perspective you’re describing is worlds apart from the one I’ve personally experienced. All of the nearest zoos here are upwards of an hour’s travel away, so zoo field trips literally never happened throughout my school career. I imagine that’s going to be the case for almost anyone living outside of a big city in most states. It’s disappointingly rare to see people actually paying mind to zoo signage (and so many zoos’ are woefully inadequate to boot), and overhearing misidentified species is just a regular occurrence that inevitably happens during every single zoo visit. People don’t read the signs, and make up something to tell their kids before rushing them along to the next ABC animal. It really seems like the typical zoo-goer is just there for the lions, tigers, elephants, and giraffes and couldn’t care less about 90% of what’s in between.
 
Really, id advise you to maybe do holidays in north rhine westphalia in germany at some point.
Alot of zoos, 36 on 34 km2, with lots more accessabil in belgium and the neatherlands in under an hour depending on where you are.
Im sure you will love it :)
Especally make sure to go to Gelsenkirchen, Duisburg and Köln, as they have 3 very big and beautiful zoos with lots of rare animals, for exampld koalas, manatees, dolphins, wombats and tassie devils in duisburg.
Im sure you wont regret it and be amazed if the zoo culture here.
The signage also is quite expansive most of the time and both in german and english.
 
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I'm... really not sure if I can agree with this. Just because an animal is common in zoos doesn't mean that it's recognizable to the general public. In my experience, the general public (including friends, family members, people I have seen participate in online discussions outside of zoo/animal-related communities, random passersby overhead in zoos) are only genuinely familiar with the upper echelon of well known animals. They can tell a lion from a tiger and a hippo from a rhino, sure, but once you extend much beyond that things seem to get very murky.

Of the species you listed, I am very confident that the average American, at least, has never heard of a mara, rhea, mouflon, nilgai, takin, muntjac, marten, wombat, tree kangaroo, maned wolf, striped hyena, spectacled/sloth bear, or even the coatimundi and nene - species found in this country! Those that would recognize the wolverine, Tasmanian devil, fossa or echidna largely only do so based on their pop culture character representations, and almost certainly would not be able to identify the actual animal out of a lineup. I think the average American would identify a wallaby as a kangaroo and an emu as an ostrich, and while storks and swans are absolutely household names I don't think they could tell them apart from cranes or geese. And I'm quite certain that aside from, like, maybe mandrills, all monkeys (and some apes and sometimes lemurs) are just "monkeys" and all deer are just "deer", and any cat smaller than a bobcat may as well not exist.

I guess it's possible that my sample is somehow incredibly skewed, or maybe in general Americans are just that much more out of touch with zoology compared to Europeans (a notion that I've generally found to be the case, but perhaps even more skewed than I thought?)

Ultimately if I were to try and come up with a list of zoo species not in the game that I'd expect the general American public (I know I keep honing in here but I do want to stress how much my analysis is going to be colored by my own experiences) to recognize both by name and by visual, I think it would be limited to:
  • Walrus
  • Sloth
  • Red fox
  • Skunk
  • Raccoon
  • Coyote
  • Armadillo
  • American black bear
  • Pelican
  • Porcupine, although I'm not sure how I'd separate the species. I think most people would recognize the NA porcupine and old world porcupines as porcupines (obviously no species designation), but maybe not South American ones.
  • Jackal by name and I think the majority of people know they're dogs but I'm not remotely certain they could identify them from a lineup of canids or would immediately say "jackal" if shown a picture of one and asked to identify the animal
  • various domestics
Notably, of these, only the walrus, sloth, and jackal are non-US species.
I'm really like the back and forth (in a good way) conversation this thread has sparked! But I think this particular post resonates with my mindset on the topic most, personally. It's a hard thing for zoo or animal enthusiasts to realize that the general public is not as savvy about non-big name or regionally relevant animals as we are. I remember seeing a facebook post some time ago about the aardwolf and there were a ton of people convinced it was fake. Much as I love my wombat and there's a huge support for Tasmanian Devils, I feel like it would be passing interest for casual players. Of this list above I'd probably agree with most, except the possibly the jackal. I do think storks, swans and geese, in general terms, would be more recognizable than many animals, but I see your point there. But them side by side, I wonder how much of the general public could say which is which.

A good counter point though which @KönigDerKaffeebohnen brought up that people who are playing PZ are for the most part likely more knowledgeable about animals as well. That's true but I just wonder how far that takes sales. I want Planet Zoo to be super successful for as long as possible. I'd love to get 3-4- even 5 more years of content. I'd be fine if new content never ended lol.

But we're done with the truly "big names" after this last pack. The top tier type of animals were all included in the base game, as should be the case. That's somewhere around 10-20 animals in total (your lions, giraffes, giant pandas and so forth). Animals that just about anyone with a few years on them would recognize, in general species terms.

DLC have now grabbed all the second tier animals missing at launch. Think back to November 2019, to the "where's the polar bear/penguin/african rhino/meerkat/kangaroo/leopard " type of posts. Personal wants would vary of course, but as for as a general take, with the Prewalski's horse and a true Leopard, the game has knocked out the last two animals that were constantly being mentioned since launch. Mentioned because they were too high profile, well known and iconic enough that they must be included at some point. It's taken two and a half years but we're there now.

The big hitters are now in two separate categories, animals that zoo and animal enthusiasts would consider iconic, necessary, interesting, or providing alternatives for animals in the game by way of biome or continent - the Maned Wolf, Spectacled Bear, Emu, Tasmanian Devil, Red River Hog, Wolverine for example. The other are animals that may not shine quite as brightly but are more well known among the general public - the skunks, armadillos, rabbits, geese and so forth.

What I'm actually looking at are the animals where those two categories overlap. That are going to likely be recognizable by the casual player and yet are also iconic or different enough to be interesting and highly requested - the Sloth and the Porcupine aretwo that come to mind here. There's nothing like either one of them in the game, and I do think most people would see a sloth and porcupine and know that's a sloth or porcupine. I could put the Walrus and Raccoon here as well. I'm not quite sure if the Dromedary should go in this, but I'm thinking possibly not, I think casual players would not be able to tell the difference between a Bactrian Camel or a Dromedary. They're gonna just call them "Camels".

All this takes regional bias aside. Of course we're going to know more about more animals that live closer to where we live than most people. Many Americans can pick out a coyote or Black Bear. but look at how we've come to talk about the game's past DLC already - another bear, another canid complaints or comments have quite often come up. Now true, not wishing for more of the same doesn't equate not being knowledgeable about a species. It doesn't negate the fact they're not really primed to be the star animals either.

One last thing to add, you could look at the meta list and say, that a particular animal is popular. Sure, of course. With any list, there has to be a #1, #2 and so forth. That doesn't mean that they've been all that popular all along.
 
Just going to throw in here that many of the early requests for particular animals were also because they 'were in zoo tycoon' which is interesting because there were definitely a lot of requests for species that I doubt are well known to the general public which in turn suggests to me that there are quite a number of players who got some of their wildlife knowledge from playing zoo tycoon. So I'm going to walk a middle line on this one but be optimistic that there will be some 12 year olds playing planet zoo who in 15 years time will be demanding a binturong and barbirusa for whatever immersive VR zoo builder has been launched.
 
I'm really like the back and forth (in a good way) conversation this thread has sparked! But I think this particular post resonates with my mindset on the topic most, personally. It's a hard thing for zoo or animal enthusiasts to realize that the general public is not as savvy about non-big name or regionally relevant animals as we are. I remember seeing a facebook post some time ago about the aardwolf and there were a ton of people convinced it was fake. Much as I love my wombat and there's a huge support for Tasmanian Devils, I feel like it would be passing interest for casual players. Of this list above I'd probably agree with most, except the possibly the jackal. I do think storks, swans and geese, in general terms, would be more recognizable than many animals, but I see your point there. But them side by side, I wonder how much of the general public could say which is which.

A good counter point though which @KönigDerKaffeebohnen brought up that people who are playing PZ are for the most part likely more knowledgeable about animals as well. That's true but I just wonder how far that takes sales. I want Planet Zoo to be super successful for as long as possible. I'd love to get 3-4- even 5 more years of content. I'd be fine if new content never ended lol.

But we're done with the truly "big names" after this last pack. The top tier type of animals were all included in the base game, as should be the case. That's somewhere around 10-20 animals in total (your lions, giraffes, giant pandas and so forth). Animals that just about anyone with a few years on them would recognize, in general species terms.

DLC have now grabbed all the second tier animals missing at launch. Think back to November 2019, to the "where's the polar bear/penguin/african rhino/meerkat/kangaroo/leopard " type of posts. Personal wants would vary of course, but as for as a general take, with the Prewalski's horse and a true Leopard, the game has knocked out the last two animals that were constantly being mentioned since launch. Mentioned because they were too high profile, well known and iconic enough that they must be included at some point. It's taken two and a half years but we're there now.

The big hitters are now in two separate categories, animals that zoo and animal enthusiasts would consider iconic, necessary, interesting, or providing alternatives for animals in the game by way of biome or continent - the Maned Wolf, Spectacled Bear, Emu, Tasmanian Devil, Red River Hog, Wolverine for example. The other are animals that may not shine quite as brightly but are more well known among the general public - the skunks, armadillos, rabbits, geese and so forth.

What I'm actually looking at are the animals where those two categories overlap. That are going to likely be recognizable by the casual player and yet are also iconic or different enough to be interesting and highly requested - the Sloth and the Porcupine aretwo that come to mind here. There's nothing like either one of them in the game, and I do think most people would see a sloth and porcupine and know that's a sloth or porcupine. I could put the Walrus and Raccoon here as well. I'm not quite sure if the Dromedary should go in this, but I'm thinking possibly not, I think casual players would not be able to tell the difference between a Bactrian Camel or a Dromedary. They're gonna just call them "Camels".

All this takes regional bias aside. Of course we're going to know more about more animals that live closer to where we live than most people. Many Americans can pick out a coyote or Black Bear. but look at how we've come to talk about the game's past DLC already - another bear, another canid complaints or comments have quite often come up. Now true, not wishing for more of the same doesn't equate not being knowledgeable about a species. It doesn't negate the fact they're not really primed to be the star animals either.

One last thing to add, you could look at the meta list and say, that a particular animal is popular. Sure, of course. With any list, there has to be a #1, #2 and so forth. That doesn't mean that they've been all that popular all along.
Some good points, but i want to focus on the two categories.
While general knowledge differs from regions qnd also has a high subjective bias, there are some animals that fit both categories like a charm, even if not all zoo nerds are gonna like them.

First group are extraordinary common forest critters.
These are the red deer, wild boar, red fox, racoon, american black bear, mallard, wood duck, mute swan and white stork + maybe some american deer.
You see them a ton in both smaller and bigger zoos, but especally many of the smaller ones build their collections up on them + a few exotic ones.

Second Group are domestic animals.
Allmost every zoo has a petting zoo, but rn we only have 4 fitting animals + the peafowl.
Even having just a goat, another domestic breed of cattle (which no one seems to actually dislike. Most seem to agree that any of zebu, watussi, scottish high land and texas long horn are quite cool animals. Also their is no wild water buffalo in planet zoo, thats a lie i refuse to believe. Domestic all the way), a donkey and a pig would come a great way to accomedate the more casual non zoo nerd player base, as most of them seem to really love the idear of a farm pack, meanwhile its imo really hard to argue against domestic animals from the zoo nerd side. I get subjectivly prefering wild animals by far, BUT petting zoos and domestic animals are in pretty much every zoo so we really need them eventually for realistic zoos.

Third Group is flying birds. Nuff said.

The fourth group is where i would put all the important zoo animals still missing that are either well known or very distinct in their appearance, so that they are recognisable, even if you can recognise them by name.
In this group i would put the porcupine, pelican, like 3 more monkeys (they might not know what they are looking at, but they do know that most zoos have different monkeys), emu, wallaby (especally bennets), wombat, coati, mandarin duck, black swan, kiwi, yak, takin, a baboon, maned wolf, peccary, dromedary and the aye aye.
I left out alot of animals that came to mind and tried to only choose known and or distinct, cute, pretty and cool looking animal that have great appeal from their apperance alone.
As you can see the list is quite large, a good thing imo as it leave a lot to choose for more support.
 
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