Should I get Odyssey or wait for Horizon 4.0?

[SimpleWolf]

Hey all, I am somewhat tempted to get Odyssey, though to be quite honest the reviews and general consensus hasn't been great. With Horizon 4.0 around the corner I'm wondering if I should jump the gun and get Odyssey for all the extra stuff plus more, or wait until 4.0 comes and get most of the stuff free of charge.
Wanted your guy's views on this to help justify which is the better option.
Thanks

 

[Kimosabe_X]

As much as I like Odyssey (and hate some parts of it at the same time) I'd say wait for 4.0 to arrive and look what the 4.0 code can do for you. ymmv

Oh, imho you won't get "most of the stuff" free of charge though as 4.0 has no on foot content for non Odyssey owners... ;-/

 

[Mrc_NorthEast]

I still only have EDH. I am waiting for the EDH 4.0 client to see how it plays on my hardware. And I want to check out the new menus (galmap, sysmap, outfitting, etc.). Also materials gathering will be different on the 4.0 client. The galaxy skybox and rendering of planets is different as well, although the AA I think is the same. I personally suggest waiting, I know the humble bundle sale ends today, but I expect EDO will be on sale soon(tm) in Steam or on the Frontier store. Arx is on sale now in the Frontier store.

 

[Lugh]

Depends on if the on foot interests you. Also remember that many of the backlash was fueled more by what odyssey wasn't rather than what it was. That and the abysmal optimization on launch. It runs a lot better know and you know what actually is in odyssey so make your choice based on that.

 

[ebbrell]

Buy it stop being tight fisted
Its quality im loving it, bought day 1 and never opened horizons since.

And yes guardian structures do have improved surface details

 

[Old Duck]

Buy it stop being tight fisted

Maybe you should buy it for him.

 

[Threeofseven]

In my personal opinion, regular Horizons is a better game than Odyssey. Odyssey is one step forward and two steps back. Horizon’s 4.0 will just be 3 steps back as the only things that makes Odyssey good will not be available.

Of course this can change if they will fix the bugs but don’t hold your breath. They already confirmed they will not fix a huge bug (repeating terrain) so I’ll be surprised if they fix many, or any, of the current big bugs.

 

[CMDR Is Fat]

In my personal opinion, regular Horizons is a better game than Odyssey.

If you only played the space part of OD how does it lack as a game to H?
OD looks better without a doubt but your system does pay for it, it has a long list of QOL improvements, it is a much smoother experience than H (not performance just the game in general), and then, lol, and then, on top of that you have all the on foot stuff, I dont do a lot of the on foot stuff currently but cant play Elite Dangerous Horizons when I can play Elite Dangerous Odyssey the two are very much of a muchness but Odyssey is a much better muchness

Edit - To Add, I would wait, it would make sense to see how your system performs in or how you like or dont like the look of 4.0, then if all is good do you want on foot things
Yes you do!

 

[Miscellaneous]

Hey all, I am somewhat tempted to get Odyssey, though to be quite honest the reviews and general consensus hasn't been great. With Horizon 4.0 around the corner I'm wondering if I should jump the gun and get Odyssey for all the extra stuff plus more, or wait until 4.0 comes and get most of the stuff free of charge.
Wanted your guy's views on this to help justify which is the better option.
Thanks

Horizons is way, far, superior in its fit and finish and integration, and performance. There's no comparison

But come on, Odyssey? You know you want it. Look at my avatar and tell me you don't wanna be kickin that cobble and then leaping on top of your fav space ship! LIVE THE DREAM SimpleWolf! uh, virtually. In this way, there's also no comparison

 

[Lugh]

If you only played the space part of OD how does it lack as a game to H?
OD looks better without a doubt but your system does pay for it, it has a long list of QOL improvements, it is a much smoother experience than H (not performance just the game in general), and then, lol, and then, on top of that you have all the on foot stuff, I dont do a lot of the on foot stuff currently but cant play Elite Dangerous Horizons when I can play Elite Dangerous Odyssey the two are very much of a muchness but Odyssey is a much better muchness

Edit - To Add, I would wait, it would make sense to see how your system performs in or how you like or dont like the look of 4.0, then if all is good do you want on foot things
Yes you do!

There are still a lot of bugs so even if you system can handle EDO its not worth it if you only do space. For example mining is nearly impossible to do in EDO

 

[CMDR Is Fat]

There are still a lot of bugs so even if you system can handle EDO its not worth it if you only do space. For example mining is nearly impossible to do in EDO

There are many bugs in EDO, there are many bugs in EDH, all much of a muchness again.
Mining, I had no issues mining for the last CG, dont know how it is nearly impossible, 3k participants in that CG I dont beleive for a minute they were all in Horizons, I know I wasnt! You dont think it would be all over the forum if it was impossible or nearly impossible to mine?

 

[Threeofseven]

If you only played the space part of OD how does it lack as a game to H?
OD looks better without a doubt but your system does pay for it, it has a long list of QOL improvements, it is a much smoother experience than H (not performance just the game in general), and then, lol, and then, on top of that you have all the on foot stuff, I dont do a lot of the on foot stuff currently but cant play Elite Dangerous Horizons when I can play Elite Dangerous Odyssey the two are very much of a muchness but Odyssey is a much better muchness

Edit - To Add, I would wait, it would make sense to see how your system performs in or how you like or dont like the look of 4.0, then if all is good do you want on foot things
Yes you do!

It lacks a lot of the stuff that makes space feel somewhat realistic. My biggest complaint is that stellar lighting is switched off in O. All objects, past about 10ls, are bathed in the same neutral white light. Also, There is no more fog on planets and terrain is much less interesting—i.e fewer deep canyons, huge mountains etc.

These two are subjective opinions: I also absolutely hate the new station menus and other UI. Also, I do not like the new lighting. Surface settlements look much better in H than O imo.

 

[Lugh]

Mining, I had no issues mining for the last CG, dont know how it is nearly impossible, 3k participants in that CG I dont beleive for a minute they were all in Horizons, I know I wasnt! You dont think it would be all over the forum if it was impossible or nearly impossible to mine?

the CG didn't need you to do subsurface or surface mining. The pulse wave analyzer only works on core asteroids in EDO meaning rocks with only surface/subsurface deposits don't light up.
Thats the biggest issue, but EDO has a host of other ones largely related to the UI failing to update. They were all introduced in update 12 and have yet to be fixed

 

[Lugh]

These two are subjective opinions: I also absolutely hate the new station menus and other UI.

I did too at first but after forcing myself to get used to them I do miss a lot of the added functionality the galaxy map now has when I go back to EDH and the station UI isn't bad just things being moved around is annoying.

 

[varonica]

Buy Odyssey and don't play the parts you don't like. There's a lot to like about Odyssey, just being able to get out of your ship and walk around it is a big plus, planetside or on stations, and with H 4.0 you are getting the new planetary tech anyway so that will make little difference. The thing is there will be new content in Odyssey that can't be done even with H 4.0 so just sticking with H 4.0 will limit your access to some of the content.

 

[RooksBailey]

Hey all, I am somewhat tempted to get Odyssey, though to be quite honest the reviews and general consensus hasn't been great. With Horizon 4.0 around the corner I'm wondering if I should jump the gun and get Odyssey for all the extra stuff plus more, or wait until 4.0 comes and get most of the stuff free of charge.
Wanted your guy's views on this to help justify which is the better option.
Thanks

I love Odyssey now but my advice would be to wait for 4.0. In some ways, 4.0 will be a featured-limited demo of what Odyssey offers. See if you like it, and if it runs well on your system. If it all agrees with you, then I would buy Odyssey.

 

[zimms]

Surely waiting for 4.0 is the correct answer. You can then see the new engine for yourself and decide whether you want to play Odyssey exclusive content as well.

I don't understand why somebody would recommend to buy it now because performance has improved when you're this close to a free trial run.
I also don't think "Odyssey looks better without a doubt" when the new lighting and planetary generation are the sole reason why quite a few people are so vehement about keeping the deprecated 3.8 version.

 

[varonica]

I also don't think "Odyssey looks better without a doubt" when the new lighting and planetary generation are the sole reason why quite a few people are so vehement about keeping the deprecated 3.8 version.

The panetary generation is without a doubt more "realistic" in the landscapes is creates, that's the main issue, as far as I can tell, that people have with it, they want the extreme landscapes produced by the old planetary tech. But given the correct settings and hardware I think it looks better except for maybe a small number of examples, but the same is true in reverse also, some number of bodies in the old version looked better than they do in the new version, but that's either here nor there really, it's picking at the edges, I would personally never go back to the old version and Horizons simply because of atmospheric planets.

 

[zimms]

The panetary generation is without a doubt more "realistic" in the landscapes is creates, that's the main issue, as far as I can tell, that people have with it, they want the extreme landscapes produced by the old planetary tech. But given the correct settings and hardware I think it looks better except for maybe a small number of examples, but the same is true in reverse also, some number of bodies in the old version looked better than they do in the new version, but that's either here nor there really, it's picking at the edges, I would personally never go back to the old version and Horizons simply because of atmospheric planets.

Absolutely. But there seems to be a surprising number of people who disagree, so I wanted to point out that this statement isn't as universally true as it may seem. (And there are examples where I think Horizons is better, since you already mentioned edges. Not a fan of all these molten cliffs.)

 

[varonica]

Absolutely. But there seems to be a surprising number of people who disagree, so I wanted to point out that this statement isn't as universally true as it may seem. (And there are examples where I think Horizons is better, since you already mentioned edges. Not a fan of all these molten cliffs.)

Yeah same, never see a real vertical cliff face, but since the planetary tech doesn't support overhangs or even true verticals there's a problem with allowing the cliffs to approach to close to vertical, in that the textures simply can't handle it, having a single pixel offset between the top and bottom of a cliff would cause a huge number of texture issues when the textures try to stretch out to fill the gap. I remember seeing some....problematic....textures on some really steep cliff faces in Horizons. But at the moment unless they do a major change in the way planets are generated....and that's unlikely to happen, this is what we have.