I am once again pleading with people to use EDMC

Kailoren

Kailoren
It's so annoying trying to look for a component/commodity using Inara or EDDB, and the latest price info was hours (if not days) ago. Then you're flying hundreds of lightyears to a FC to find it completely empty or a station out of stock, so it's back to Inara to see more outdated price information and the process repeats endlessly.

PLEASE JUST INSTALL EDMC!!

It's a tiny program. You won't even know it's there. Just link it to your Inara profile, minimise it while you play Elite, and help LITERALLY EVERY CMDR IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE (including yourself) avoid seeing this:

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gibbotronic

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So I've never installed anything like those but where do I grab these programs from? And signing up for accounts - which sites do I need to sign up for, and push to?
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
gibbotronic said:
So I've never installed anything like those but where do I grab these programs from? And signing up for accounts - which sites do I need to sign up for, and push to?
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Accounts are not needed to download them... git hub will hold the EXE/Zip files and then you click on the latest release of those... to download a single file...

The Applications after install can have third party sites to link to IF you want to Share to EXTRA data to Extra web sites as people use extra sites that do have a login.

Sharing the data to the core network of EDDN does not require any login data as it reads the Logs that are stored on the PC hardware and uploads that as the files are free to read...
The apps can add extra functions beyond sharing to EDDN these functions are not needed to share station market data....
 

GJ51

GJ51
gibbotronic said:
Thanks for the info. So I don't need to sign up for an account on Inara or EDDN? Just download, run and it'll freely share?
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You don't need to, but if you sign up to Inara it will link tons of your CMDR data and make it easy to see in a well organized way and it will automatically update if you give it access to you Frontier login.

I've been using Inara, eddb.io, EDDiscovery, EDEngineer, and Coriolis.io for years along with Voice Attack and EDDI installed and allow all of them access to my data without any known problems.

YMMV - but I've never had an issue and we are VERY security focused on our network. I have VERY sophisticated packet inspection on my Gateway and nothing I do in ED has ever raised a flag - although be aware that some of these utilities are written by users and do not have registered certificates, so you have to grant installation to Windows at the installation screen.

HTH
 

robbyp

robbyp
10's thousands of people have installed and used EDDiscovery over the years, as they have with the other major tools. The tools offer much more than just sending data to EDDN btw, EDDiscovery for instance is a complete co-pilot including voice recognition and voice output, with 50 panels of info on your commander. EDDI integrates with voice attack, EDMC has plugins, etc.

Its all open source. You can run from source if you wish.

Your friendly websites rely on these senders for galaxy data.

Ps. Registration certs are not worth the virtual paper they are written on unless signed by a large well known firm.
 

Old Duck

Old Duck
No.

But FWIW, I stopped using 3rd party tools and now play the game using built-in tools only. I agree with the sentiment that if you personally use those tools, you should contribute to supporting those tools (which I did back in the days before the galaxy map project was sunset).

But it's not my job to make you happy, LOL. If it was, then we'd all be playing in Open ;)
 

GraphiteGB

GraphiteGB
Off course inara and EDDB can be set to ignore data thats OLD in the first place and only show fresh updates...
So you dont go to stations that are never updated... as they will never show on the list... as there not updated...
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Dragsham

Dragsham
I use
Edhm
Eddi (If I'm exploring)
Edmc (starts with win 11)
Inara (obviously)
And one or 2 others connected with the galmap but their just sites linked to my travels hehe.
And to date no issues wotsoever.
I've a powerful app that monitors packets ports etc and it's never barked once.
All games have 3rd party mods it's pretty standard.
So Op is right...edmc is as important as inara.
Do us all a favour and get loggin hehe.
 

Kailoren

Kailoren
GraphiteGB said:
Off course inara and EDDB can be set to ignore data thats OLD in the first place and only show fresh updates...
So you dont go to stations that are never updated... as they will never show on the list... as there not updated...
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Or if people ran EDMC/EDD there wouldn't be a need for that filter since the stations would get updated as people play the game
 

Brrokk

Brrokk
Only a tiny percentage of players visit this forum and they are probably the only ones who even know about EDDB. It's probably doing pretty well considering.
 

Danieros

D
Many commodities, especially at systems that don't have a billion+ of population will just have stocks in the >5000 tons. Some like insulating membrane won't even have 100 tons at max stock.

Then you have a T9/Cutter which will be moving about 700 tons at a time, so it is very easy to deplete the stock, which can then take weeks to replenish.

That said, the EDMC uploads the data when you dock at the station, not when you leave, so if you see a supply of ~700 then it can happen that a player, even with EDMC installed, had taken that and left the station. So there was no market update on EDMC without that stock.
 
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