Popontia has no on foot Odyssey game play options.

[CMD Latour]

Popontia has no on foot Odyssey game play options.

Why would the Devs place a CG in a system with no opportunity for Ground Pounder CZ action in Odyssey?

The big reason for having Odyssey is on foot Ground Pounder action and the Devs make no effort to place the CGs in a system that would allow for a KEY component of a major expansion of the game.

WHY???

 

[Vardaugas]

Reward balance is my guess. Maybe they should figure a way out to determine where bonds were produced so the space and ground combat CGs can be placed in two different locations and counted separately.

 

[Ryox]

I heard different theories about the strange disappearance of on-foot war CGs since Dec.
Anyway, it's simply depressing for the on-foot community to be deprived like that.

It might be related to a problem of balancing Combat Bonds rewards between space and ground CZ. Maybe FDev is struggling with this

Or it could be because of the infamous "Scores Stuck" bug, that has been plaguing on-foot CGs since ever. Please vote for it everybody.

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[Cmdr. Numa]

On foot bonds are much higher, so anyone in space is at a disadvantage. Money can be compensated with massacre missions, which don't exist on foot. Those don't count in CGs though.

 

[GraphiteGB]

The planets of the system don't have any atmosphere, so impossible to have ground bases... without that there can be no EDO content... they're not laudable in EDH ether..

 

[Florenus]

At first War CG's included planets with on foot CZs, but people complained that it's faster to earn much more in bonds doing on foot CZs, putting space combat pilots at disadvantage (and that's true) so since then Frontier tries to find systems without any Odyssey settlements for those events.

 

[Ryox]

The planets of the system don't have any atmosphere, so impossible to have ground bases... without that there can be no EDO content... they're not laudable in EDH ether..

It's a bit suspicious that FDev couldn't find a system with on-foot CZ in the whole galaxy, isn't it?

 

[DrinkyBird]

The planets of the system don't have any atmosphere, so impossible to have ground bases... without that there can be no EDO content... they're not laudable in EDH ether..

You can have Odyssey settlements on non-atmospheric bodies

 

[Ryox]

At first War CG's included planets with on foot CZs, but people complained that it's faster to earn much more in bonds doing on foot CZs, putting space combat pilots at disadvantage (and that's true) so since then Frontier tries to find systems without any Odyssey settlements for those events.

Bottom-line, FDev probably better has to balance this bonds issue ASAP, imo.
It's sub-optimal to resolve a problem like that by excluding on-foot.

 

[Florenus]

Bottom-line, FDev probably better has to find a way to balance this bonds issue ASAP, imo.
It's sub-optimal to resolve a problem like that by excluding on-foot.

They are not excluding on-foot during regular BGS wars. It's still unbalanced.

And I doubt any balancing will happen soon. Frontier design philosophy is to let someone do the design, cross it as "done" and never look at it again if possible. There was balance problem with war CGs? They're "fixing" it by finding systems without settlements.
Who knows, maybe that advertised next year rebalance (or whatever they're calling it) might make them revisit the issue, but frankly I would not put too much faith in that.

 

[varonica]

Popontia has no on foot Odyssey game play options.

Why would the Devs place a CG in a system with no opportunity for Ground Pounder CZ action in Odyssey?

The big reason for having Odyssey is on foot Ground Pounder action and the Devs make no effort to place the CGs in a system that would allow for a KEY component of a major expansion of the game.

WHY???

We recently had threads complaining about how on foot players had a huge advantage over players who were restricted to ship only play (so H 4.0 etc) and it wasn't fair, so now we have CG's where there is no on foot play, now we have players complaining about there being no on foot play? So it's a lose/lose all around I guess!

 

[St0rmFury]

Say, do you lose combat bonds on ship destruction in EDH 4.0?

 

[CMD Latour]

We recently had threads complaining about how on foot players had a huge advantage over players who were restricted to ship only play (so H 4.0 etc) and it wasn't fair, so now we have CG's where there is no on foot play, now we have players complaining about there being no on foot play? So it's a lose/lose all around I guess!

I play in Odyssey like MANY other players, a product we paid for with on foot combat being a relevant and important part of the DLC (that was ONE of the selling points, NO??).

Fdev, please fix the game and provide the content we paid for. It's really that simple.

We are not asking for new features... just the product that was advertised... and we paid for... Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[nemolomen]

Say, do you lose combat bonds on ship destruction in EDH 4.0?

In EDO, bonds are not lost on death. Can't speak to EDH v4.0 directly but it would surprise me if they were...

 

[DrinkyBird]

I play in Odyssey like MANY other players, a product we paid for with on foot combat being a relevant and important part of the DLC (that was ONE of the selling points, NO??).

Fdev, please fix the game and provide the content we paid for. It's really that simple.

We are not asking for new features... just the product that was advertised... and we paid for... Nothing more, nothing less.

There are plenty of systems that have on-foot conflict zones active, I’m sure. Just search for the war states.

 

[CMD Latour]

There are plenty of systems that have on-foot conflict zones active, I’m sure. Just search for the war states.

You do understand this is about the CG... right?

 

[DrinkyBird]

You do understand this is about the CG... right?

Yes but I don't recall on-foot combat zones in CGs ever being a selling point.

 

[Ryox]

They are not excluding on-foot during regular BGS wars. It's still unbalanced.

And I doubt any balancing will happen soon. Frontier design philosophy is to let someone do the design, cross it as "done" and never look at it again if possible. There was balance problem with war CGs? They're "fixing" it by finding systems without settlements.
Who knows, maybe that advertised next year rebalance (or whatever they're calling it) might make them revisit the issue, but frankly I would not put too much faith in that.

Oh wow, I see what you mean now. That's a pretty scary prospect if they're indeed reluctant about tuning things. I guess they're underestimating the damages they're doing to on-foot. Thanks for the explanation anyway, appreciated!

Yes but I don't recall on-foot combat zones in CGs ever being a selling point.

Then you missed out honestly. War CG is actually the best time ever for on-foot PvP. It's like Woodstock, the whole community gathers together on one designated ground CZ for several days in the row.

The 6 last war CGs (Aug 2021 to Feb 2022) all included on-foot (see the playlist in my sig). It's one of the most awaited event across the people on our discord. The interest for on-foot combat is slowly dying with this absence of CGs.

 

[BL1P]

We recently had threads complaining about how on foot players had a huge advantage over players who were restricted to ship only play (so H 4.0 etc) and it wasn't fair, so now we have CG's where there is no on foot play, now we have players complaining about there being no on foot play? So it's a lose/lose all around I guess!

Yes but the complaints are from players who dont know about the balance problems.
Its upto Fdev to balance the payouts, rather than just not do on foot bond CGs. Hopefully at the same time they can fix the you dont loose bonds on death imbalance too.

 

[Ryox]

Yes but I don't recall on-foot combat zones in CGs ever being a selling point.

To be more precise, when on-foot, the problem is that you can only find PvP during those CGs. The regular BGS wars don't gather enough players in Open Play.