All New & Old Biome Skirts - 1.11

[abigenius]

Some players are too picky when it comes to the biomes in the game, the biomes were never totally identical to real life, neither the background nor the ground, before we only had (not counting the race maps) only 6 different maps for EVERYONE , each continent had the same map according to the biome where it is, and now that they added 12 new backgrounds for the ENTIRE GLOBE, the players complain , I mean, they complain that the map of temperate europe does not look like real life but the desert map for asia, tropical for North America or the prairie map for Europe or Asia have nothing to do with how they are in real life and we who live in those regions are not complaining excessively about not being able to build a zoo in a proper map, i would like to do it but it's not possible and that's ok, if you don't like asia grass or temperate europe, it doesn't matter, you can just reuse the old temperate map and pretend you're somewhere specific place but let the other players enjoy that now they can have a more suitable map where they live, just don't be fussy when before we didn't have the possibility to choose other maps according to the continent

 

[yoav_r]

Some players are too picky when it comes to the biomes in the game, the biomes were never totally identical to real life, neither the background nor the ground, before we only had (not counting the race maps) only 6 different maps for EVERYONE , each continent had the same map according to the biome where it is, and now that they added 12 new backgrounds for the ENTIRE GLOBE, the players complain , I mean, they complain that the map of temperate europe does not look like real life but the desert map for asia, tropical for North America or the prairie map for Europe or Asia have nothing to do with how they are in real life and we who live in those regions are not complaining excessively about not being able to build a zoo in a proper map, i would like to do it but it's not possible and that's ok, if you don't like asia grass or temperate europe, it doesn't matter, you can just reuse the old temperate map and pretend you're somewhere specific place but let the other players enjoy that now they can have a more suitable map where they live, just don't be fussy when before we didn't have the possibility to choose other maps according to the continent

It's more the fact that the main complaint used to be that most maps are immersion breaking, then everyone got hyped with the announcement of new skirts, and after the update most of them, while beautiful, are still immersion breaking.

 

[Pentoleaf]

I don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but the temperate Asia scultped map skirt is rolling farmland but in more Autumnal colors than the original rolling darmland background.

 

[Firestar97]

It's more the fact that the main complaint used to be that most maps are immersion breaking, then everyone got hyped with the announcement of new skirts, and after the update most of them, while beautiful, are still immersion breaking.

But at least some have properly selected Foliage now I think
Had no Chance yet to look at them directly in the Game but I think I've seen them having fitting Foliage now (except european Grassland which still has african Trees)

I don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but the temperate Asia scultped map skirt is rolling farmland but in more Autumnal colors than the original rolling darmland background.

Sounds really nice
Would like to see a Picture because that sounds really interesting

 

[Captain Callum]

I don't know if anyone's mentioned it, but the temperate Asia scultped map skirt is rolling farmland but in more Autumnal colors than the original rolling darmland background.

Wait what, I went through all the sculputed maps and temperate Asia is the same as the old one. Still lots of green trees in the farmland map

 

[markun]

Some players are too picky when it comes to the biomes in the game, the biomes were never totally identical to real life, neither the background nor the ground, before we only had (not counting the race maps) only 6 different maps for EVERYONE , each continent had the same map according to the biome where it is, and now that they added 12 new backgrounds for the ENTIRE GLOBE, the players complain , I mean, they complain that the map of temperate europe does not look like real life but the desert map for asia, tropical for North America or the prairie map for Europe or Asia have nothing to do with how they are in real life and we who live in those regions are not complaining excessively about not being able to build a zoo in a proper map, i would like to do it but it's not possible and that's ok, if you don't like asia grass or temperate europe, it doesn't matter, you can just reuse the old temperate map and pretend you're somewhere specific place but let the other players enjoy that now they can have a more suitable map where they live, just don't be fussy when before we didn't have the possibility to choose other maps according to the continent

Certainly from my point of view I don’t expect there to be realistic maps for every corner of the earth.

I would simply like us to have the maximum choice and maximum creativity for all biomes.

The simplest way to achieve this as the game stands (without having choice of biome textures) would be to be able to select our own choice of the background skirts and also have the possibility of very neutral low horizons for all biomes, essentially a blank canvas so we don’t have overwhelming immersion-breaking backgrounds on all but one of the maps.

 

[Firestar97]

I would simply like us to have the maximum choice and maximum creativity for all biomes.

I wish we could adjust the Weather before starting a Zoo so we can use Real Life Data from the Location the Zoo is in (highest Temperature and lowest Temperature, how often it rains, maybe other Weather Stuff, turn Seasons on/off, Northern Hemisphere Seasons/Southern Hemisphere Seasons)

 

[Captain Callum]

I wish we could adjust the Weather before starting a Zoo so we can use Real Life Data from the Location the Zoo is in (highest Temperature and lowest Temperature, how often it rains, maybe other Weather Stuff, turn Seasons on/off, Northern Hemisphere Seasons/Southern Hemisphere Seasons)

thats a great idea, sometimes i really dont want a temperate map to snow at all although maybe a bit too complex adding real life data but choosing weather options sure

 

[Firestar97]

thats a great idea, sometimes i really dont want a temperate map to snow at all although maybe a bit too complex adding real life data but choosing weather options sure

What I meant, they give us the Options to adjust everything, the Player can adjust it like they want, so if someone searches for the necessary Informations online they can make their Zoos even more realistic

 

[markun]

What I meant, they give us the Options to adjust everything, the Player can adjust it like they want, so if someone searches for the necessary Informations online they can make their Zoos even more realistic

I would love to do a real time zoo where I adjust the weather and seasons accordingly.

 

[Firestar97]

I would love to do a real time zoo where I adjust the weather and seasons accordingly.

Black & White had a Feature where it would connect to a Server to adjust the Weather to your Location in Real Time. If it works for such a old Game it should definitely also be possible for Planet Zoo

 

[markun]

Black & White had a Feature where it would connect to a Server to adjust the Weather to your Location in Real Time. If it works for such a old Game it should definitely also be possible for Planet Zoo

I’m happy to do it manually. One of my wishes is versions of the trees with autumn foliage and bare winter branches. I think the twilight pack missed an opportunity for autumn versions of existing trees.

 

[Captain Callum]

Black & White had a Feature where it would connect to a Server to adjust the Weather to your Location in Real Time. If it works for such a old Game it should definitely also be possible for Planet Zoo

It can be done by connecting to a server to gather the information upon zoo creation rather than stream the seasonal data. Basically fetch seasonal data from a weather center and it should automatically give you all the needs for this custom seasons like temperatures, snowfall, rainfall etc

 

[Firestar97]

I’m happy to do it manually. One of my wishes is versions of the trees with autumn foliage and bare winter branches. I think the twilight pack missed an opportunity for autumn versions of existing trees.

Really wish we could get this and have it change automatically with the Seasons but it seems to be unlikely that Frontier will add Seasons. But a Version that is just a own Object would still be nice, especially because the Winter Trees would be great for Enclosures with climbing Animals

It can be done by connecting to a server to gather the information upon zoo creation rather than stream the seasonal data. Basically fetch seasonal data from a weather center and it should automatically give you all the needs for this custom seasons like temperatures, snowfall, rainfall etc

Might be that it was done that Way. Don't know how exactly it worked

 

[SanRazo618]

Black & White had a Feature where it would connect to a Server to adjust the Weather to your Location in Real Time. If it works for such a old Game it should definitely also be possible for Planet Zoo

They did that by just looking at the consoles internal calendar. (I assume you’re talking about Pokémon)

 

[ReptoMin]

What we have been discussing isn't mixing and matching different Skirts and Maps. It is using the same handcrafted Combo while building on other Continents. So for instance you click somewhere in Asia and then pick the NA or EU Map (and therefore its own Skirt) from a Dropdown.

Ok so today I had a chance to see the Maps and Skirts in the game for myself, therefore I have to slightly change my previous Suggestion. I can see that some of these new options are very Stylized and come with a Thematic Entrance Building and entrances can't be changed in the Franchise Mode. But if the Ability to Select every Skirt for every Continent is added to the game, then all Modes should benefit from it. Right now Franchise Mode can't, because you will be left with a very Specific Entrance Building despite where you are building your Zoo. So the only way this could work is either they let us change Entrance Buildings in Franchise Mode, or they let us only use the Maps with less Thematic Entrances for other regions. For instance letting us select the Generic Farmland Temperate Skirt for any Continent but the Asian Themed one will be in the Dropdown only when you click Asia. These options could just be named Flat 1, Flat 2, etc. as there already is a Dropdown.

Actually this criticism holds true even within each Continent. For instance imagine you are building a Temperate Zoo in Western Siberia but you are forced to use an East Asian Thematic Entrance because it is considered Asia. Therefore I think letting us delete Entrance Buildings in Franchise Mode is the better Solution. The good thing is, we at least already have the Dropdowns I was talking about yesterday. No extra coding will be necessary. They would only have to add more Options to them.

What I would like to see

• The ability to select at least our own selection of 8 biome textures if it is not possible to pick from the entire selection.

• The ability to manually control temperature.

• The ability to pick a map independent of location or globe and then assign a location yourself.

I am supporting all these Features 100%. That way you can use any Combination of these that best reflect the Region you are building in.

So although I’m not that keen on the Asian temperate short grass colour, I will use that map to try the Finnish zoo I have been wanting to make for ages.

The Asian temperate map is the only one with a vaguely discrete background and the only one that comes close to Finland in appearance. But I won’t be able to have snow on the ground and a blue sky as the temperature is too high. But it’s still the least worst option.

Wouldn't all the Deciduous Trees in the Skirt be a problem for Finland since you can't change them? At least there is a mix of Taiga Trees in them. Maybe it could pass for South Finland. The rest is strictly Taiga I believe.

I wonder if they might be able to change the current System in such a Way that Russia (if it even has temperate Areas in the Game) has this Grass while Japan, Korea and (southern?) China has the normal temperate Grass (don't know enough about Chinese Climate to tell which Grass should be used there). But I assume this probably wouldn't be possible, so customizing the used Terrain would probably be a better Option

My guess is the Greener Version of the Grass would be better for most of China, Japan and Korea, with their Northern Areas being better off with the second Type.

Now that you mention it I'm really not sure if there is any Difference between this and the Taiga Grass.

Perhaps it was just a Coding mistake then? Instead of adding Temperate Short Grass maybe they added Taiga Short Grass for that Skirt. I'm somewhat Color Weak, so if someone else can compare it for us to see if it is any different to Taiga Short Grass.

 

[markun]

Wouldn't all the Deciduous Trees in the Skirt be a problem for Finland since you can't change them? At least there is a mix of Taiga Trees in them. Maybe it could pass for South Finland. The rest is strictly Taiga I believe.

You are right, I tried it and it is too hard to hide or ignore the background. With temperate trees in game you can make a good background but with the pines and other taiga species it’s just too hard. So unfortunately I am scrapping that plan for now.

 

[Firestar97]

They did that by just looking at the consoles internal calendar. (I assume you’re talking about Pokémon)

No, I mean Black & White, the God Simulation Game by Lionhead Studios. Also has a Sequel

Therefore I think letting us delete Entrance Buildings in Franchise Mode is the better Solution

I think they fixed the Bug that would let us delete those Piece by Piece because they didn't want us to have it too easy at the Beginning because someone could just sell the Building Pieces to have more Money in the Beginning. I think the most likely Option would be to let us just toggle the prebuilt Entrance on/off when we start a new Zoo

 

[SanRazo618]

No, I mean Black & White, the God Simulation Game by Lionhead Studios. Also has a Sequel


I think they fixed the Bug that would let us delete those Piece by Piece because they didn't want us to have it too easy at the Beginning because someone could just sell the Building Pieces to have more Money in the Beginning. I think the most likely Option would be to let us just toggle the prebuilt Entrance on/off when we start a new Zoo

Gotcha my apologies

 

[Britches]

No, I mean Black & White, the God Simulation Game by Lionhead Studios.

I remember a gigantic cute tiger being totally embarrassed when you accidentally tickled his balls with the cursor... cough