I've been offered 2 larceny missions almost every time I look through the board.
Yeah, same here. I feel the best approach to gather materials is through missions primarily and then loot on the side of those if you can: Make sure you have the EDO material helper tool to focus on your wish list and pick the missions with the right rewards. Negotiate with mission givers to increase mat reward numbers if possible. Missions will take you to a variety of settlements under a variety of states and planetary conditions, and a variety of activities that help with eliminating repetition. If you can also prioritize missions related to your BGS gameplay even better. Changed my base system a few times as well. On occasions where missions with reward mats I needed were not available I also decided to raid certain settlements where those mats had a good chance to come up. Etc. I actually enjoyed a lot the process of gradually improving my gear and profiting from the results in subsequent missions etc.
If true people should be busy getting SDPs while the bug's shining. Distress beacons had scavs, I remember camping an Eagle for PRs a while ago....
But in the ship game, it actually gives you a clue where to find things. In the on foot game, it doesn't
Agreed. This mainly affects assets - most goods and data are available as mission rewards, but if there's a pattern to what kind of economies/states cause certain goods and data to be offered, I've yet to determine it. The engineer unlock materials are particularly obscure, settlement defence plans in particular.
GOD, THIS. It seriously discourages experimentation. Some weapons don't come into their own until around G3/4 which means you can't really test the efficacy of a mod without grinding a weapon up to a decent state, so the sunk cost if you find you don't get on with it isn't just the materials for the mod itself, but all the materials you spent on upgrading a weapon that now has a wasted mod slot you'll never get back.
The fact that there's RNG at all as a hard barrier to progress is horrible. You can be doing literally everything right, and the roll of the die says no which leads to an incredibly frustrating experience. Or maybe we're not doing everything right and there is a correct way, but we have absolutely no way of knowing that because of the first point I quoted.
Yes, I agree. The Codex doesn't know what it wants to be. Where stuff can be found should be a basic function of the Codex. The game is schizophrenic.
I quited the on foot upgrades cus of this... I dont know how to play, and while i dont expect from some sort of sandbox game to hold my hand, i do expect the game to at least tell me where (even as a reference not specific locations) i can find all this mats required for upgrading. So i agree with op, should have some sort of info on how you find mats while playing the game, instead of watching endless Youtube vids or third party tools by the hours, outside the game(i want to time sink ingame not spectating outside of it) . And i dont think that not knowing to play a game (that doesnt give you some helpful tool that provides that very chance of learning) makes the complaints less relevant. I guess the number of people watching those yt vids and complain ( Aka not knowing how to play the game) are a good evidence that the actual system needs a change.
Not at all. I never watched any youtube to learn how to play. I went and discovered it for myself. What videos did the youtubers watch to learn how to play I wonder? Did they go back in time to make videos for themselves to watch so they would know how to make videos in the present, Terminator style? Do we need to send John Connor back to destroy them so Youtube doesn't take over our lives in the future? Is the future a dark road where people don't know how to do anything unless there's a video of it?
I am glad that you had the time and the will to do that, however that doesnt change the fact that there are other people too who doesnt feel or play the game same as you do ..but applying such a filter as you did with "the dark road" its utopic i think (otherwise why yt and third tool party exist at all??) . The number of visualisations of these kind of vids shows that there are people who needs some more tools to learn the game. I say why not in game? I guess that the level of Time investment we both are prepared to invest is different and opposed. I totally respect you for grasping where, for this instance, the upgrade mats are to be found, but i prefer a tool that gives me an indicator where i might gameplay to find them, rather than spending time to exploratory search them. Upgrading is a goal not a journey for me.
A question I tend to ask, what is the reason for upgrading? What do you need to accomplish that the upgraded stuff is a necessity for?
Were you aware that G3 gear can be bought, saving lots of time and materials. Locations of found items are posted on another thread.
There is plenty of information available as to where materials can be found. Think of those sources as stuff you researched at a station or picked up chatting in the bar.
Some material types are tied to specific missions/locations etc. Much is available as mission rewards.
You are questioning the game resources and goals then, not why the players are doing it.... Why is it there to begin with then, i may ask.... Its a sandbox therefore everyone has the right to play as they see fit, especially if its there.... I only ask for some more tools, not why is it in the game, and questioning the way i have acces to those resources instead of counting to peoples mentality of playing the game...
The ship game doesn't need to use the Codex either. Every material in game has a description, and it tells you in there where it can be found.
Nothing is forcing you to ride settlements.
Exactly. Info is spread everywhere. The point of the Codex should be to concentrate the info so everyone knows where to look. That's why I suggested it in the first place when I noticed the information spread was getting out of control, if only they actually understood that when they took up my suggestion.
No forcing here... Lawful play is less fun, by a wide margin!
I disagree, I can get to notoriety 10 very quickly...
Adding that they are much more fun, for me, so many Lawful settlements, so many mats...
