No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Wow! I'm blown away by how quickly some of the community appears to have turned on FD.
More than any announcement this saddens me the most :/
I'm also confused by some anti-online comments for a title that's download only. I get the point, but surely the trade off between a live evolving economy, dynamic changing events and unpredictability are worth loosing off-line solo play for, aren't they?
Wow!...
More than any announcement this saddens me the most :/
I'm also confused by some anti-online comments for a title that's download only. I get the point, but surely the trade off between a live evolving economy, dynamic changing events and unpredictability are worth loosing off-line solo play for, aren't they?
Wow!...
Nope, I can't. Read on there. The game is delivered and in full on my HDD. ^^
It is not I who is having a problem with the internet. I am scared of THEM not having an internet in a couple of years when they are bankrupt or shut down the servers for whatever reason.
I see no irony in that.
I use the SP2 at uni - because it is good for taking notes and uni has good internet. I have disabled every part of it that would sync with my home pc.
Not sure why I'm bothering today.
Irony also is an online-only game in part getting funded by people who got told it would be playable offline.
Without them we might not even have this thread, because there would BE no game.
I'm fine without offline play. Take care to not make assumptions about people.
I'm just dumbfounding by your apparent hardheadedness and inability to critically understand the issue of others.
Telling people off b/c a feature they'd hoped for is gone is incredibly rude and childish.
Servers going dark could be a problem January 1...it doesn't even have to be b/c frontier did something wrong or didn't have money. ISPs go dark for days at a time...my local ISP was out for a week.
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It isn't download only.
No. I work hard to afford my internet connection and buy games that saves me from becoming the younger version of an old woman with cats.
To be fair, Frontier could have saved themselves a lot of this uproar if they where a little more transparent when the decision was made, because it surely wasn't made in the last few days. But the announcement is sort of last-minute don't you think?
Really, that's the issue. For those of us who pledged big in Kickstarter, our money is gone. That's always the (understood) risk... and up until this evening, I've never seriously regretted pledging as high as I did. Legally, I haven't a leg to stand on in terms of ever getting that money back.
Announcing the removal of a core tenet of the game (not a "nice to have" as Michael seems to be toning it) at this late stage leaves a very bitter taste in the mouth.
Morally, it is a betrayal of trust. Frontier have failed in their moral obligations. I will not soon forget this.
There hasn't even been an apology.
Personally I don't hope for anything bad to happen to FD.
I just hope they receive an irresistible hosting offer from say, Madagascar. Sri Lanka. Greenland. Easter island. Or somewhere else that needs a long way 'round, 60,000+ km route to reach. Because, you know, having "the internet" is the same anywhere, and exists in a blissful state of ignorance of all physical realities.
I just hope they receive an irresistible hosting offer from say, Madagascar. Sri Lanka. Greenland. Easter island. Or somewhere else that needs a long way 'round, 60,000+ km route to reach. Because, you know, having "the internet" is the same anywhere, and exists in a blissful state of ignorance of all physical realities.
Dice Man XX you've said your piece, why keep attacking people simply because they have a different opinion to you? Their view is no less valid than your own.
For those who obviously are not reading back through the posts.
Michael Brooks stated about oh 15 - 20 pages ago that the primary reason that the offline server was not being given was that they didn't want the server data in player hands because it would allow players to get the secrets of the universe and cheat.
When asked why they couldn't make a different seeded universe he said it would be to expensive.
Lot of people are not happy with that, they are allowed to be unhappy with it stop acting like Fanboi's and let Frontier do their own defending and talking they are the ones who have waited until 1 month from release to drop a bomb shell they knew would cause an uproar.
Those who claim that great internet is avalible etc etc.. No it's not, I don't care what you think but even in some considered 1st world countries in 2014 almost 2015 there are internet deadspots etc, where I live you can go literally 10 minutes down the road and have NO internet available to you, why? Because there is no mobile signal either (Welcome to Australia). Just because you think you understand how the net works in your part of the world doesn't make it fact for every one alright? Until you come live yourself in some of the countries you've no idea what it's like and if you try and claim oh but the capital cities are fine.. no every one lives in a capital city.
In the end though 22nd of this month I've a feeling David and the rest of the Frontier team are going to have some hard questions asked of them at an event, I also have a feeling that the press is likely to have a field day with this as well at some point.
What I love is that people haven't caught on to some other posts yet like the one where Michael basically states the game won't have even the 25 promised ships on release.
That bother me? Nope nor does the always active net.. But I can and do understand why people are upset, why they feel deceived and they have the right to. Add to that Mr Brooks post that could be considered a FU to any one who feels they have been lied to and wants a refund and you get why there is a very negative attitude here at the moment.
I feel for Frontier's Dev team at the moment, why? because there seeing their hard work thrown to the dirt stamped on and called names simply because a choice that was made..
For those who obviously are not reading back through the posts.
Michael Brooks stated about oh 15 - 20 pages ago that the primary reason that the offline server was not being given was that they didn't want the server data in player hands because it would allow players to get the secrets of the universe and cheat.
When asked why they couldn't make a different seeded universe he said it would be to expensive.
Lot of people are not happy with that, they are allowed to be unhappy with it stop acting like Fanboi's and let Frontier do their own defending and talking they are the ones who have waited until 1 month from release to drop a bomb shell they knew would cause an uproar.
Those who claim that great internet is avalible etc etc.. No it's not, I don't care what you think but even in some considered 1st world countries in 2014 almost 2015 there are internet deadspots etc, where I live you can go literally 10 minutes down the road and have NO internet available to you, why? Because there is no mobile signal either (Welcome to Australia). Just because you think you understand how the net works in your part of the world doesn't make it fact for every one alright? Until you come live yourself in some of the countries you've no idea what it's like and if you try and claim oh but the capital cities are fine.. no every one lives in a capital city.
In the end though 22nd of this month I've a feeling David and the rest of the Frontier team are going to have some hard questions asked of them at an event, I also have a feeling that the press is likely to have a field day with this as well at some point.
What I love is that people haven't caught on to some other posts yet like the one where Michael basically states the game won't have even the 25 promised ships on release.
That bother me? Nope nor does the always active net.. But I can and do understand why people are upset, why they feel deceived and they have the right to. Add to that Mr Brooks post that could be considered a FU to any one who feels they have been lied to and wants a refund and you get why there is a very negative attitude here at the moment.
I feel for Frontier's Dev team at the moment, why? because there seeing their hard work thrown to the dirt stamped on and called names simply because a choice that was made..
I think it is almost the reverse. The original Elite inspired (or at least help to inspire) an entire generation of people to get into computer programming. I suspect a disproportionate number of backers are programmers who ripped the game to bits with client side hacks and cheats, driving code server side. People doing so were pretty open about it as part of testing the game and you could see things being moved server side as people reported flaws to the devs.
What has been announced is probably for the greater good of the game. They could easily get it to work offline but it looks like they can't do it without giving away the keys to the kingdom.
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I feel the same. I feel awful that they had to announce that today, and I feel disgusted by the really genuinely nasty comments aimed at David Braben and the company. Some nasty people on here alright, I hope they get their refund and disappear to be honest.
There isn't a single title of the last ten years that I could have played without an internet connection to learn how to get the damn thing working, regardless of DRM or anything else. It's kind of a given.
It's a bummer, and it seems FD didn't make this decision lightly. Those wanting refund or go to court - please do so, I understand your grief, but it was a long stretch anyway. I wish it could come earlier...but at least we have time to handle refunds and be done with.
Let's try to move past this.
Let's try to move past this.
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