07 Commanders, Signing Off

Do you have a source for this?
It is common knowledge that approx 8 million Epic accounts were 'given away' but not any statistics about how many play obviously available.
A CM mentioned on a player livestream back in May that there are ~70K logins per day in totality. Average players on Steam in past 30 days is ~5,300 and I assume 2.5 hours per playsession means ~50,000 Steam logins per day, leaving ~20K for everything else. 8 million EGS accounts and 4 million everything else accounts (Steam, Frontier, PS4 and XBox). So you can see that 20K is going to be spread very thin between EGS, Frontier, PS4 and Xbox.

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A CM mentioned on a player livestream back in May that there are ~70K logins per day in totality. Average players on Steam in past 30 days is ~5,300 and I assume 2.5 hours per playsession means ~50,000 Steam logins per day, leaving ~20K for everything else. 8 million EGS accounts and 4 million everything else accounts (Steam, Frontier, PS4 and XBox). So you can see that 20K is going to be spread very thin between EGS, PS4 and Xbox.
I missed the part in that stream where they mentioned that the Epic accounts didn't finish the tutorial... I'll listen again some time.

Have fun!
 
@OP do have a point, the game loops need EVA and better mission design, there is a lot of unused assets that could be a apart of a good mission.
The game is still in Alpha in many ways.

What is meaningful EVA encounters in ship interiors and why would they be more meaningful then the EVA gameplay we have now in settlements?

Anyway good luck in playing whatever game you want to play.
Ahh it has been described many times here, when i got the time i can write about it or find the posts.
 
I missed the part in that stream where they mentioned that the Epic accounts didn't finish the tutorial... I'll listen again some time.

Have fun!
The free games on EGS get slurped up by everyone by the millions because free game. In a week there's another free game, then another, all slurped up by the millions. Maybe Elite is an outlier though and all 8 million EGS owners did the tutorial then stopped playing. Unlikely though.
 
The free games on EGS get slurped up by everyone by the millions because free game. In a week there's another free game, then another, all slurped up by the millions. Maybe Elite is an outlier though and all 8 million EGS owners did the tutorial then stopped playing. Unlikely though.
So, what you are actually saying, is that you have no idea either, but it sounded as if it was informed?
That's fine - standard fare for the forum (y)
 
This is making me very anxious. How will I know when it's my turn to quit the game? WIll someone let me know, or is there some way I can calculate my allocated quitting date ahead of time? And if I miss my slot, does that mean I have to keep on having fun playing the game until it's my turn again? Is there a rule that says I have to post on the forums, or can I quietly slip away? Will I be given a reason I should quit, do I have to come up with that on my own or can I borrow a reason from a streamer? Can I ever come back? Do I have to play Star Citizen?

So. Many. Quesions.
 
@OP - i can understand quitting/taking a break.

What i can't understand is selling off your ships. FC decommision, yeah, because of that damn stupid offline upkeep thing. But ships don't cost anything when you are not playing.

If you return in the future, you're going to be missing stuff you might want back.
 
This is making me very anxious. How will I know when it's my turn to quit the game? WIll someone let me know, or is there some way I can calculate my allocated quitting date ahead of time? And if I miss my slot, does that mean I have to keep on having fun playing the game until it's my turn again? Is there a rule that says I have to post on the forums, or can I quietly slip away? Will I be given a reason I should quit, do I have to come up with that on my own or can I borrow a reason from a streamer? Can I ever come back? Do I have to play Star Citizen?

So. Many. Quesions.

I believe you need to register with @Bottom Hat - he needs to keep track of who has stuffz for giving.
 
I missed the part in that stream where they mentioned that the Epic accounts didn't finish the tutorial... I'll listen again some time.
Can confirm, I have made Epic acc using browser and claimed Elite there, but never launched as ...well, not simple to run that crap on Linux :D So I just recorded acc details if I will have mood to figure.
 
Can confirm, I have made Epic acc using browser and claimed Elite there, but never launched as ...well, not simple to run that crap on Linux :D So I just recorded acc details if I will have mood to figure.
I quite admire the work done by the Linux community in getting wine configured to run many games. Is the epic launcher as dismal on linux as windows?
 

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@OP - i can understand quitting/taking a break.

What i can't understand is selling off your ships. FC decommision, yeah, because of that damn stupid offline upkeep thing. But ships don't cost anything when you are not playing.

If you return in the future, you're going to be missing stuff you might want back.
I sold off most of my ships a few weeks ago (close to 20, mostly G4/G5'd) but not due to quitting, but as a "last hurrah" in a way, sort of to break my set ways in how I play the game which became very dull (Corvette for CZs, Cutter for cargo/CGs, Anaconda for mining, you get the idea). I thought, short of resetting my save game this might re-kindle my interest in the game; I kept my FC and the 4 Imperial ships to see how that'd go.

I spent 95% of my time in my Courier, focusing on EDO gameplay (settlements, some mild plant scanning). That became boring after a few days, so I started re-building my fleet, with less effort put into engineering them (beyond G2/3 as I don't have the mats) - simply because the threat of hostile players is almost non-existent since Odyssey released. I enjoyed that, but because I'm swimming in credits and to a lesser extent in mats, it was a matter of a couple of hours staring at outfitting screens.

Exploration Krait Phantom - what put me off wasn't only the gameplay involved in plant scanning, and known issues around planet tech (I don't care too much about repetition but it's the fact the LoD doesn't settle especially when you fly at medium to higher speeds). The lighting issues with the Krait's cockpit warning lights were the final nail in the coffin.

Mining T10 - thought since I can't visit settlements without severe performance issues I should try good old Horizons gameplay again, so built a laser miner T10. What put me off here is that the lighting appears to be affected when I fire the mining lasers (i.e. everything around me goes darker, significantly so). That put me off further.

Combat Krait Mk2 (incl SLF bay) - the NPC being silent bug appears to be back, and even with a midly engineered ship (although my weapons are G5'd - I kept PP gear only) I had no trouble in the local Haz RES and while it was mildly entertaining, I want to play new stuff, not keep engaging in gameplay that I already did for the past years. What was the point of buying EDO if I ignore its features.

So in a nutshell, taking even that relatively drastic step didn't really work out for me.

The next step might be a complete account wipe, and that can go in two ways - the game becomes more fun again because I start on a level playing field (I have to go through the progression curve from the start for both ship and on-foot stuff, as such I can mix and match between the two in a more balanced way) or it'll just kill any remaining 'enthusiasm' (probably the wrong word at this stage) in the face of the engineer/rank/FC credit grinds I'd be facing.

Probably the sure fire way to go cold turkey on Elite if I wanted to, and maybe this is the angle the OP is taking albeit to a lesser extent.

Fwiw, I haven't logged in for a while now, not even to disable the services on my FC (got billions in credits so no big deal). What might bring me back into the game is a good performance patch, but given the tumble weed situation we're in I'm not holding my breath. And there's still the lacklustre gameplay that I don't think is going to change fundamentally over the coming months so... dunno.
 
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I sold off most of my ships a few weeks ago (close to 20, mostly G4/G5'd) but not due to quitting, but as a "last hurrah" in a way, sort of to break my set ways in how I play the game which became very dull (Corvette for CZs, Cutter for cargo/CGs, Anaconda for mining, you get the idea). I thought, short of resetting my save game this might re-kindle my interest in the game; I kept my FC and the 4 Imperial ships to see how that'd go.

I spent 95% of my time in my Courier, focusing on EDO gameplay (settlements, some mild plant scanning). That became boring after a few days, so I started re-building my fleet, with less effort put into engineering them (beyond G2/3 as I don't have the mats) - simply because the threat of hostile players is almost non-existent since Odyssey released. I enjoyed that, but because I'm swimming in credits and to a lesser extent in mats, it was a matter of a couple of hours staring at outfitting screens.

Exploration Krait Phantom - what put me off wasn't only the gameplay involved in plant scanning, and known issues around planet tech (I don't care too much about repetition but it's the fact the LoD doesn't settle especially when you fly at medium to higher speeds). The lighting issues with the Krait's cockpit warning lights were the final nail in the coffin.

Mining T10 - thought since I can't visit settlements without severe performance issues I should try good old Horizons gameplay again, so built a laser miner T10. What put me off here is that the lighting appears to be affected when I fire the mining lasers (i.e. everything around me goes darker, significantly so). That put me off further.

Combat Krait Mk2 (incl SLF bay) - the NPC being silent bug appears to be back, and even with a midly engineered ship (although my weapons are G5'd - I kept PP gear only) I had no trouble in the local Haz RES and while it was mildly entertaining, I want to play new stuff, not keep engaging in gameplay that I already did for the past years. What was the point of buying EDO if I ignore its features.

So in a nutshell, taking even that relatively drastic step didn't really work out for me.

The next step might be a complete account wipe, and that can go in two ways - the game becomes more fun again because I start on a level playing field (I have to go through the progression curve from the start for both ship and on-foot stuff, as such I can mix and match between the two in a more balanced way) or it'll just kill any remaining 'enthusiasm' (probably the wrong word at this stage) in the face of the engineer/rank/FC credit grinds I'd be facing.

Probably the sure fire way to go cold turkey on Elite if I wanted to, and maybe this is the angle the OP is taking albeit to a lesser extent.

Fwiw, I haven't logged in for a while now, not even to disable the services on my FC (got billions in credits so no big deal). What might bring me back into the game is a good performance patch, but given the tumble weed situation we're in I'm not holding my breath. And there's still the lacklustre gameplay that I don't think is going to change fundamentally over the coming months so... dunno.

I'm just not playing. Kept the FC as i have the funds to keep it going for a few months.

If the situation doesn't change, i suppose i'll pop in and sell it. But i'll leave the ships, just in case.

Its the performance that is killing it for me. After spending a pretty sum at the start of the year upgrading my comp, which already ran Horizons decently, it was a big letdown discovering that i would still need to spend tens of thousands of roubles on a graphics card just to get somewhat decent framerates.

It just killed the game for me.

If FD can optmize a lot (not hopeful) then i'll come back.
 

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I'm just not playing. Kept the FC as i have the funds to keep it going for a few months.

If the situation doesn't change, i suppose i'll pop in and sell it. But i'll leave the ships, just in case.

Its the performance that is killing it for me. After spending a pretty sum at the start of the year upgrading my comp, which already ran Horizons decently, it was a big letdown discovering that i would still need to spend tens of thousands of roubles on a graphics card just to get somewhat decent framerates.

It just killed the game for me.

If FD can optmize a lot (not hopeful) then i'll come back.
Yeah it was a bit of an act of desperation on my part to sell my fleet - this was before patch 5 (iirc) so I still felt I wanted to give the game a fair go. But the performance issues have really killed it for me also, and in terms of hardware, I too had bought a new gaming desktop last year, buying new hardware just to play this broken mess is absolutely not going to happen as it clearly is a "it's not me, it's you" situation between me and Frontier's product.

Though that's not all unfortunately - while I can probably make do with the gameplay (more on that in a second) the borked paintjobs and lighting I brought up several times in the past go to such an extent that they're putting me off playing - game's still too dark in places, too bright in others, shadows are wonky (they're fine in Horizons), the variable lighting changes when firing weapons or any lights coming on do my head in, basically Odyssey crapped all over the place even when it comes to pure Horizons gameplay, so I've had enough and very little motiation to boot up the game now. I could play Horizons but that's on borrowed time anyways and I actually want to play the "new & shiny" stuff as well, not just stick to the old.

There's another problem as well that affects my motivation to boot up Elite - I've become quite hooked on X4, and a lot of the stuff I always wanted in Elite (including what I expected from Odyssey), X4 is delivering in spades - so that doesn't exactly help either. And in about a week's time MSFS2020 should hopefully get a huge performance update, which detracts me further. Maybe it's for the best; playing Elite in its current state will just make me grumpy and what's the point of playing a game if it's not fun.

I'm semi-hopeful that they will address performance, I'm less-than-hopeful that they will sort out the lighting (given they only just delivered the god-awful Krait lighting "improvements"), and as for the gameplay... yeah, I'd say it's take-it-or-leave-it at this point.

Not really where I thought we'd be two months in if you had asked me earlier this year!
 
Obviously you don't understand Steamcharts. Would you like to know more?

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