I made this guide for myself. Its in 3 parts.
Part 1 is the part with all the details.
Part 2 is taking all the things to grind and sorting them by type
Part 3 is a more detailed explanation on how to do certain things like material gather and mining
This guide is accurate as of 2.3 Commanders update. I personally did all these tasks and this is what I found. Its enough of a grind....you shouldn't have to find separate videos or guides on each item. I hope you all find this useful. Let me know if theres more detail I can put in or something I missed:
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ENGINEERS in 2.3
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/261466-How-to-effeciently-approach-engineering
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/259029-So-you-ve-run-out-of-inventory-space
- list of materails u can toss
http://inara.cz/galaxy-engineers
1) meeting requirement - what it takes to show the purple on galaxy mat
2) unlock requirement - what it takes to actually be able to talk to and start using the engineer (bring whatever is listed to them)
3) each engineer can have a "max grade" in a specific equipment and lower max grades in others. IE Elvira can have a max grade of 5 in FSD's and a max grade of 2 or 1 in shield generator
and thrusters. You have to unlock these grades
4) The max grade is tied to the engineers "rep or rank". Unlock the engineer at grade 5 by doing bluepritns or whatever is listed on the site. So for example if you upgrade FSD to 3 then
ALL the other FSD and shield generator and thruster patterns get unlocked up to lvl 3 as well (up to the max grade they can be unlocked)
5) When you upgrade any pattern it goes towrds the enginners entire "grade access" aka rank/rep. This is then applied to all patterns they have and will be unlocked up to that grade level
6) You can use lvl 1 paterns repeatedly to unlock higher and higher
7) Ideal method of upgrading:
A) Use lvl 1 pattern to go to rank 3 or possibly 4. You can use the same pattern again and again and then discard the changes instead of applying them.
B) Once at rank 3 or 4 use that rank 3 pattern to go to 4 and 4 pattern to 5 to 5. Will only take 3-4 attempts to do so
8) Even if you max out a lvl 1, 2 , or 3 pattern you can still use these patterns to lvl up the other ones as its all tied back to the engineer person.
A) Unlock each one
B) Max out each engineers grade as much as you can before moving onto the next with the materials you have on you. Especially if that engineer unlocks more engineers.
c) Once all engineers unlocked figure out blueprints you want to apply and the materials you have vs the materials you need so you can grind for those materials.
8) All required landing pads are L. However with the ones requiring rep I would recommend getting a small/medium ship to expand your mission options there.
9) Honestly before you start this I personally would recommend you try to get an elite rank first. You will gian a lot of materials needed by doing this and you will have gained the money
10) Be aware that you may need to log out / log in for enginneers to update the counters correctly.
(hopefully) to make it easier to do these unlocks. Alternatively you can do this starting out and use this guide and such as a way to start playing all aspects of the game and actually
attempt to make a little bit of money.
Unlock order:
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***Anyone with a (grade 3-4) means you need to unlock that to unlock the engineers below
***The top non indented engineers are publically available the indented - means you must unlock from the engineer its indented under
***All rep unlocks require you to get to the required rep and then pick up an "engineer" mission from the mission board for that rep and deliver it to a random system 1 jump away.
Elvira Martuuk (grade 3-4)
Location: Khun > Long Sight Base
Learn from: Public Knowledge
Gain access by: Attain a maximum distance from your career start location of at least 300 light years.
- Will be a stat you can look at on your right hand ships panel that says farthest from starting area.
- Pick a direction 300 light years away and start jumping...preferably with fuel scoop
Donate: Soontill Relics x3
- Ngurii > Cheranovsky City
Zacariah Nemo
Location: Yoru > Nemo Cyber Party Base
Learn from: Elvira Martuuk (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Gain invitation from Party of Yoru
- Yoru > Manning Base
- Search in IDDB for a station with Party of Yoru as the controlling faction
- Perform missions and become friendly with Party of Yoru
- Once friendly check mission boards for invite. Will require jumping to another system to turn in
Donate: Xihe Companions x25
- Xihe > Xhen dock
- x10-20 at a time
Marco Qwent (grade 3-4)
Location: Sirius > Qwent Research Base
Learn from: Elvira Martuuk (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Gain invitation from Sirius Corporation (Sothis > New Dawn Station)
- Search in IDDB for a station with Sirius Corporation as the controlling faction
- Perform missions and become allied with Sirius Corporation
- If you fly out 5000Ly first, scanning each system with advanced discovery scanner then take a slighly different route back (so you have 10k worth of systems instead of just 5k) and sell
it all at the station you will reach allied.
- Once Allied check mission boards for invite. Will require jumping to another system to turn in
Donate: Modular Terminals x25
- Obtained from missions as bonus reward.
- takes up cargo space
Professor Palin
Location: Maia > Palin Research Centre
Learn from: Marco Qwent (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Attain a maximum distance from your career start location of at least 5,000 light years.
- Get a ship with good jump range
- Get a good fuel scoop
- Ensure you dont run out of fuel jumping to a non scoopable star.
Donate:25 Unknown Fragments
- Go to HIP 14479 (or anywhere in "aries dark region" of systems)
- Fly around star parrale 1000 away from star
- Look for Unidentified signal sources and scan them
- Find ones that say "Anomaly detected" once scanned
- drop in and find "unknown artifact" and let it scan you
- ram it and collect the fragments (3 per artifact you find). Dont shoot it or u onyl get 1
*****Alternate Planet bound version: (Locate crashed anacondas and use SRV to shoot canisters and pick up then log out and back in to refresh the canisters
- Izanami A 4 A (-2.25 145.13) I used this one. Was in a crater. Couldnt fine ones below but listing in case you can.
- CETI SECTOR RD-T B3-2, Planet 1. (-3.92, 121.46)
- HIP 17403 A 4 A (-34.981, -141.413)
- HIP 17862 6C A at coordinates 30.3398,-98.5876)
Lori Jameson
Location: Shinrarta Dezhra > Jameson Base
- Requires Elite in combat, trading, or exploration to gain access to system (or to have done the kickstarter)
Learn from: Marco Qwent (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Gain combat rank Dangerous or higher
- Kill things. I recommend killing with a friend and/or in a conflict zone. It doesnt matter the money you earn only the amount of kills you get.
- Combat rank is determined based on your combat rank vs the enemys combat rank. The higher they are the more points you get. Its NOT based on the ship they fly.
Donate: Kongga Ale x25
- Kongga > Laplace Ring, Kongga
- x18 at a time
The Dweller (grade 3-4)
Location: Wyrd > Black Hide
Learn from: Common knowledge
Gain access by: Sell to 5 different black markets
- Blackmarket: (
https://spytec.github.io/)
- Use EDDB to look up "slaves" from area around these systems. Using a medium/small ship pick up 5+ slaves and deliver them to these 5 stations black market.
- Adnoartina > Babcock landing
- LTT 537 > Thiele vision
- Arikara > Bennett gateway
- Qetesh > Whipple Vision
- backlum > Ahnert-rohlfs terminal
- ***Does not require medium/small ship. Its just what I used and is easier to use outposts then stations for this.
- ***Can also kill a ship or find illegal goods somewhere and use these. But I found the slave method quicker and easier.
Donate: 500,000 credits
Lei Cheung (grade 3-4)
Location: Laksak > Trader's Rest
Learn from: The Dweller (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Traded in over 50 markets
- I like to use EDDB to find trade routes.
Donate: Gold x200
- Can mine
- Can buy off certain stations
Ram Tah
Location: Meene > Phoenix Base
Learn from: Lei Cheung (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Gain exploration rank Surveyor or higher
Donate: Classified Scan Databanks x50
- Convoy Beacon instance above the planets
- scan all of the Type-9s, type 7's, bulgaria (T6es and the Haulers have less chance).
- Exit the instance via supercruise into open space, then relog/mode switch. Re-enter the instance via supercruise
***To find convoy beacons systems: (you can also do tourism beacons for the bulgas)
1) Go to galaxy map
2) Go to filter tab
3) select filter by state
4) uncheck all but outbreak
5) set population min to pretty high and max to max high
Liz Ryder | (grade 3-4)
Location: Eurybia > Demolition Unlimited
Learn from: Public sources
Gain access by: Gain Cordial status with Eurybia Blue Mafia
- Eurybia > Chris & Silvia's Paradise Hideout
- Search in IDDB for a station with Eurybia Blue Mafia as the controlling faction
- Perform missions and become Cordial with Eurybia Blue Mafia
- Once friendly check mission boards for invite. Will require jumping to another system to turn in
Donate: 200 units of Landmines
- Byerus > Maybury Bastion
Hera Tani (grade 3-4)
Location: Kuwemaki > The Jet's Hole
Learn from: Liz Ryder (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Gain rank Outsider or higher with the Empire
- Missions...lots of missions for a faction aligned with the Empire.
Donate: Kamitra Cigars x50
- Kamitra > Hammel Terminal
- x15 to x45 at a time
Broo Tarquin
Location: Muang > Broo's Legacy
Learn from: Hera Tani (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Gain combat rank Competent or higher
- Kill things. I recommend killing with a friend and/or in a conflict zone. It doesnt matter the money you earn only the amount of kills you get.
- Combat rank is determined based on your combat rank vs the enemys combat rank. The higher they are the more points you get. Its NOT based on the ship they fly.
Donate: Fujin Tea x50
- Fujin > Futen Spaceport
- x15 at a time
Tiana Fortune
Location: Achenar > Fortune's Loss
Learn from: Hera Tani (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Friendly with the Empire.
- Missions...lots of missions for a faction aligned with the Empire.
Donate: Decoded Emission Data x50
- boom system state
- scan Federal Dropships, Assault ships and Gunships
- go to hazrez and Federal Dropships, Assault ships and Gunships
- go to conflict zones and dont pick a side and keep scanning
Felicity Farseer (grade 3-4)
Location: Deciat > Farseer Inc
Learn from: Public data sources
Gain access by: Gain exploration rank Scout or higher
Donate: Meta Alloys x1
- Maia > Darnielle's Progress
Juri Ishmaak (grade 3-4)
Location: Giryak > Pater's Memorial
Learn from: Felicity Farseer (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Earn more than 50 combat bonds
- conflict zones. Attack 50 enemy targets that die. (dont need killing shots)
Donate: Provide 100,000 credits worth of combat bonds
- Conflict zones
- Can be any combat bonds
- Does not need to be all the same faction. Can be different ones as long as they all add up to 1 million.
- it appears you do NOT need to have the same type of combat bonds but just a cumlative amount across all your combat bonds
- To recap you need a total of 1,100,000 combat bonds (not bountys) from anywhere to give to Juri Ishmaak (100k) and Colonel Bris Dekker (1 million).
Colonel Bris Dekker
Location: Sol > Dekker's Yard
Learn from: Juri Ishmaak (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Friendly with the Federation
- Missions...lots of missions for a faction aligned with the Federation
Donate: Provide 1,000,000 credits worth of combat bonds
- Conflict zones
- Can be any combat bonds
- Does not need to be all the same faction. Can be different ones as long as they all add up to 1 million.
- it appears you do NOT need to have the same type of combat bonds but just a cumlative amount across all your combat bonds
- To recap you need a total of 1,100,000 combat bonds (not bountys) from anywhere to give to Juri Ishmaak (100k) and Colonel Bris Dekker (1 million).
The Sarge
Location: Beta-3 Tucani> The Beach
Learn from: Juri Ishmaak (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Gain rank Midshipman or higher with the Federation
- Missions...lots of missions for a faction aligned with the Federation
Donate: Aberrant Shield Pattern Analysis x50
- System with boom state
- scan combat ships
- go to hazrez and scan pirates
- Scan ships in super cruise
Tod "The Blaster" McQuinn (grade 3-4)
Location: Wolf 397 > Trophy Camp
Learn from: Common knowledge
Gain access by: Earn more than 15 bounty vouchers
- 15 kills of "wanted" targets in Hazrez or nav beacons
Donate: Provide 100,000 credits worth of bounty vouchers
- 100k worth of bonds off "wanted" targets in Hazrez or nav beacons
Selene Jean (grade 3-4)
Location: Kuk > Prospector's Rest
Learn from: Tod "The Blaster" McQuinn (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Mine at least 500 tons of ore
- Mine close to a system that has a station with controlling faction: Alioth Independents
- Sell the 500 tons at this station to get Allied with Alioth Independents faction and unlock Alioth permit needed for Bill Turner
- Mine Pristine Reserve Metalic rings for: Platinum, Painite, Palladium, gold
Donate: Painite x10
- Metalic rings
Didi Vatermann
Location: Leesti > Vatermann LLC
Learn from: Selene Jean (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Gain trade rank Merchant or higher
- Trading...lots of trading. Determined by the amount of profit you make by trading not by the quanitity of items...so make that $$$
Donate: Lavian Brandy x50
- Lave > Lave Station
- x24 at a time
Bill Turner
Location: Alioth > Tuurner Metallics Inc
- allied with Alioth Independents
- do missions or trade with controlling faction
- permit is given as a mission you pick up once allied
Learn from: Selene Jean (grade 3-4)
Gain access by: Friendly status with Alliance of Independent Systems
Donate: Bromellite x50
- ice rings
- GET ALLIED WITH ALIOTH INDEPENDENTS FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ranks
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**You need Elite in Combat, trading, or exploration or have been a kickstarter backer
Gain combat rank Dangerous or higher
- Kill lots of targets. Based on their combat rank and yours not ship type.
Gain exploration rank Surveyor/Scout or higher
- Scan planets, scan systems and sell data at stations. If you dont sell the data you wont get credit.
Gain trade rank Merchant or higher
- Traded in over 50 markets
- Based on $$$ you make from trading. Make that $$$
Gain rank Friendly with the Empire.
- Lot of missions with minor factions aligned with Empire
Gain rank Midshipman or higher with the Federation
- Lot of missions with minor factions aligned with Federation
Scanning
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50 units of Aberrant Shield Pattern Analysis // hasrez
50 units of Classified Scan Databanks // Just fly around doing your normal thing and basic scan every Beluga . Outbreak systems; Convoy Beacons should be plentiful. CSDs are probably the
most common thing that can be found by scanning low-security planetary bases (see "Medium Security Settlement List..." thread in Engineers sub-forum for planetary bases list).
50 units of Decoded Emission Data // scan ships all over
Material
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25 units of Unknown Fragments // 130-150ly from Merope and look for "Anomaly Detected" signal sources. shoot or ram it. (HIP 14479 ?)
Mission rewards
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25 units of Modular Terminals
- Obtained from missions as bonus reward.
- takes up cargo space
rare
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50 units of Kamitra Cigars // Kamitra > Hammel Terminal
- x15 - x45 at a time
50 units of Fujin Tea // Fujin > Futen Spaceport
- x15 at a time
50 units of Lavian Brandy // Lave > Lave Station
- x24 at a time
25 units of Xihe Companions // Xihe > Xhen dock
- x10-20 at a time
25 units of Kongga Ale // Kongga > Laplace Ring, Kongga
- x18 at a time
commodity
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1 unit of Meta Alloy // Maia > Darnielle's Progress
200 units of Landmines // Byerus > Maybury Bastion
200 units of Gold
- can be mined in metalic rings
Blackmarket
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(
https://spytec.github.io/)
Use EDDB to look up "slaves" from area around these systems. Using a medium/small ship pick up 5+ slaves and deliver them to these 5 stations black market.
- Adnoartina > Babcock landing
- LTT 537 > Thiele vision
- Arikara > Bennett gateway
- Qetesh > Whipple Vision
- backlum > Ahnert-rohlfs terminal
***Does not require medium/small ship. Its just what I used and is easier to use outposts then stations for this.
Reputation
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You are looking for a station you can land at with the controlling faction being the faction you are trying to rep up with. You may need to look outside that factions home system if they're
home system requires a permit (Alioth and Sirius)
1.
https://eddb.io/faction
2. Plug in the minor faction at typ
3. Look for where it shows Controlling on right hand side
4. Ensure this is lined up with the faction you want on the left hand side
5. Verify the system is not the Alioth or Serius system as these require the permit your trying to get
Gain Cordial status with Eurybia Blue Mafia // Eurybia > Chris & Silvia's Paradise Hideout
Gain invitation from Party of Yoru (friendly)// invite on mission board // Yoru > Manning Base
Gain allied with Alioth Independents
- Have to grind rep to allied outside home system to get permit into home system
- Search in IDDB for a station with Alioth Independents as the controlling faction
- Perform missions and become allied with Alioth Independents
- If you fly out 5000Ly first, scanning each system with advanced discovery scanner then take a slighly different route back (so you have 10k worth of systems instead of just 5k) and sell
it all at the station you will reach allied.
Gain invitation from Sirius Corporation //
- Have to grind rep to allied outside home system to get permit into home system
- Search in IDDB for a station with Sirius Corporation as the controlling faction
- Perform missions and become allied with Sirius Corporation
- If you fly out 5000Ly first, scanning each system with advanced discovery scanner then take a slighly different route back (so you have 10k worth of systems instead of just 5k) and sell
it all at the station you will reach allied.
Attain a maximum distance from your career start location of at least 5,000 light years.
Earn more than 50 combat bonds
Earn more than 15 bounty vouchers
Extra Explanations:
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Mining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6awHAOP76o
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***Mine at least 500 tons of ore
- Mine close to a system that has a station with controlling faction: Alioth Independents
- Sell the 500 tons at this station to get Allied with Alioth Independents faction and unlock Alioth permit needed for Bill Turner
- Mine Pristine Reserve Metalic rings for: Platinum, Painite, Palladium, gold
10 units of Painite
- Metalic rings
50 units of Bromellite
- Ice rings
Gather Materials:
To get the basic materials (nickle, iron and so forth) you can either collect them while mining or do the following:
1. Get an SRV hanger on your ship with an SRV
2. Look in system map for planets and see if they have nickle, iron and the materials you want
3. Land in your shipa nd get out in your SRV
4. Start Scanning for Materials
A) Dismiss your ship as it appears as a signal on your wave scanner
B) If you see ANYTHING on your wave scanner that means there is something in that direction
C) If you wave scanner is blank in part of the area nothing is that way
D) Try to make the signal be in the middle of your wave scanner
E) If you are far away it will take up the entire width of the wave scanner
F) As you get closer it will be come narrower and narrower
G) when it is really narrow keep an eye on your radar for a white square. This is the resource
H) One you see it lock onto the chunk of rock
I) Shoot the chunk of rock to break it into pieces
J) Lock onto each piece and run it over with cargo scoop open to pick up the piece
K) Repeat. If nothing is on wave scanner in any direction keep driving in a random direction or pick a new spot on the planet
***The |||| that appear usually on the top of the waver scanner is normally a man made object so canisters/ crashed ship
***The distance is determined by how narrow or wide the signal is on your scanner not if its on the top or bottom of the wave scanner
1,100,000 credits worth of combat bonds
- combat bonds appear to work from anywhere.
- it appears you do NOT need to have the same type of combat bonds but just a cumlative amount across all your combat bonds
- Juri Ishmaak used 100k from tambe corp
- Colonel Bris Dekker used 185,200 from Tambe corp and 814800 from LTT 12787 JET CREATIVE CORP
- To recap you need a total of 1,100,000 combat bonds (not bountys) from anywhere to give to Juri Ishmaak (100k) and Colonel Bris Dekker (1 million).
