2600K OC and trying to achieve 90 fps with Oculus

I use i7 2700K @ 4.5ghz & GTX 1080 in stations I have around 45fps. The 1080 is runing around 94% load, CPU around 65%
Enabling hyperthreading does absolutely nothing with FPS.

If you are getting 45FPS with 94% GPU load your settings are way to high for your CPU to matter as your GPU bottlenecked. As FPS increases so does CPU useage. Sounds like your HMDQ or SS is set at 1.5 or more which is too much for a 1080 to maintain 90FPS.
 
If you are getting 45FPS with 94% GPU load your settings are way to high for your CPU to matter as your GPU bottlenecked. As FPS increases so does CPU useage. Sounds like your HMDQ or SS is set at 1.5 or more which is too much for a 1080 to maintain 90FPS.

I use pimax 4K which can only do 60hz and also my monitor can only do 60hz and even with v sync off I cant go higher than 60 FPS (dont know why).
I use HMDQ 1 and SS 1 but I have set up my pimax for max rendering so per eye combined resolution (horizontal+vertical) is around 5000 and the game looks absolutely amazing in VR but I will try to lower that to see how much FPS I can gain and also if my CPU will be able to keep it up
 
I use pimax 4K which can only do 60hz and also my monitor can only do 60hz and even with v sync off I cant go higher than 60 FPS (dont know why).
I use HMDQ 1 and SS 1 but I have set up my pimax for max rendering so per eye combined resolution (horizontal+vertical) is around 5000 and the game looks absolutely amazing in VR but I will try to lower that to see how much FPS I can gain and also if my CPU will be able to keep it up

The Pimax 4K is a different matter. Much higher native resolution so that explains your GPU demands and if the screen is 60Hz 60FPS is all you would be able to get I would think. As far as I know all the VR headsets are capped at at their maximum refresh rate.

60FPS would be a lot easier for a CPU to drive a GPU at than 90 so I’d expect you to be able to get 60 with low enough graphics settings.
 
Hey folks,

I have a now ancient 2600K@ 4.5 GHz (wont' go higher anymore), 1080Ti, 24GB RAM, SSD, and Oculus Rift that cannot achieve 90 fps in stations even in Solo mode, and probably elsewhere in Elite. (The CPU will do 90 fps in space..)

Are there any other settings/tricks for freeing up additional CPU power? Even if I run VR Low on the 1080Ti, the GPU usage will run around 25-32% (clearly a lot of room left) but i'm stuck at 45 fps in dock. I've closed all other software running on the system, tried playing around with CPU affinity to use only non-SMT cores.. thought i haven't tried 'game mode' yet in win 10.

I haven't played in a while (1+ year), and I remember as Elite gained more features it was a little harder for the CPU to do 90 fps each upgrade. I'm eyeing an 8700K (which I assume with DDR4-3200) will maintain 90 fps in stations with a fast enough GPU, but was also hoping to wait to see what Zen 2 had to offer. Project Cars 1/2 also want a faster CPU in VR.

Thanks!
o7 CMDR Xebec

EDIT - P.S. Just to add - CPU is running no higher than 65C under 8-threaded Wprime stress tests (custom water); I did double check so thanks for the suggestion.
Try reduce shadow quality to low as well draw distance. Check GPU and CPU core load with MSI Afterburner running in the background. You should be able to see what component is really limiting.
 
I was under the impression that stations were borked at the moment.

CMDRs with l33t bleeding edge rigs still dropping below 90FPS in stations??
 
I was under the impression that stations were borked at the moment.

CMDRs with l33t bleeding edge rigs still dropping below 90FPS in stations??
Performance in station had been improved since launch, massively. But they are still highly performance demanding, though you can reach 90 FPS in VR in stations. A Ryzen 1600 and a 980Ti should suffice (if you don't good too crazy with resolution and detail settings.
 
In most games you are absolutely right but ED is different in that it fully supports muti-core/mulit-threads and VR. I suspect that the 6 core i5 CPU's will be fine with ED and VR at 90FPS but 4 cores without hyperthreading really struggle in some situations as do 4 cores with hyperthreading.

One day I'm gonna properly test all this stuff and do a big write up or video because it keeps coming up. VR is so different to normal gaming and pretty much nobody benchmarks for VR when testing.

My 2500k was fine for the oculus rift (apart from the inside of stations). I did have it overclocked which helped. I have an 8600k now which is much faster.
Just need an update for my GPU.
 
In most games you are absolutely right but ED is different in that it fully supports muti-core/mulit-threads and VR. I suspect that the 6 core i5 CPU's will be fine with ED and VR at 90FPS but 4 cores without hyperthreading really struggle in some situations as do 4 cores with hyperthreading.

One day I'm gonna properly test all this stuff and do a big write up or video because it keeps coming up. VR is so different to normal gaming and pretty much nobody benchmarks for VR when testing.

That is quite an exaggeration - my 7700k at 4.6Ghz is pretty far from struggling in Elite VR.
IT does get hot when playing Civ6 though, by far the most CPU demanding game I have.
 
That is quite an exaggeration - my 7700k at 4.6Ghz is pretty far from struggling in Elite VR.
IT does get hot when playing Civ6 though, by far the most CPU demanding game I have.

I don’t see how you have a recent 4 core 8 thread i7 so I’d expect it to be ok.

Edit: I meant to say some with 4 cores and hyper threading in the original post.
 
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My 2500k was fine for the oculus rift (apart from the inside of stations). I did have it overclocked which helped. I have an 8600k now which is much faster.
Just need an update for my GPU.
I am still using the exact same CPU, which is OCed to 4.3 (or 4.4 can't remember)

Did you happen to improve just the CPU? I am always thinking about upgrading but I am not sure if there is any real point??

If you did just upgrade the CPU and could therefore compare like for like, was the FPS gain noticeable?

Thanks!
 
I am still using the exact same CPU, which is OCed to 4.3 (or 4.4 can't remember)

Did you happen to improve just the CPU? I am always thinking about upgrading but I am not sure if there is any real point??

If you did just upgrade the CPU and could therefore compare like for like, was the FPS gain noticeable?

Thanks!

With the 8600k I had to get a new motherboard and ram. I have had an increase in speeds. Everything feels a lot smoother now. But I couldn't tell you how much better it was. Basically my CPU was bottlenecking my GPU, not its the other way round.
 
With the 8600k I had to get a new motherboard and ram. I have had an increase in speeds. Everything feels a lot smoother now. But I couldn't tell you how much better it was. Basically my CPU was bottlenecking my GPU, not its the other way round.

Thanks! And sure thing, regarding requiring new MB and RAM. (I tend to bulk them all together.)

I have a 1070. Because the CPU is so old I always feel as though it needs upgrading!
Oh my indecisiveness!
 
I am still using the exact same CPU, which is OCed to 4.3 (or 4.4 can't remember)

Did you happen to improve just the CPU? I am always thinking about upgrading but I am not sure if there is any real point??

If you did just upgrade the CPU and could therefore compare like for like, was the FPS gain noticeable?

Thanks!
If you don't notice any problems in games, then why upgrade? If you want to look for problems or reasons to upgrade, install MSI Afterburner an enable it to show you CPU load of individual cores as well as GPU load. If any core is above 90%, CPU is probably limiting. If GPU load is at 98-100%, your GPU is probably limiting.
Alternatively you can always set a FPS limiter (preferably in-game or in MSI Afterburner) to get more even frame times. If your FPS are CPU bound, you can use DSR or in-game supersampling to shift load on the GPU. You will get better image quality for free, so to speak.


Thanks! And sure thing, regarding requiring new MB and RAM. (I tend to bulk them all together.)

I have a 1070. Because the CPU is so old I always feel as though it needs upgrading!
Oh my indecisiveness!
If you really want to go for a new CPU, get a 6C CPU with SMT. 6C CPUs without SMT (like 8600K) are a bit of a compromise, because, even in some older games (like Assassin's Creed Origins), they already slower that some (older) 4C/4T CPUs.
 
If you don't notice any problems in games, then why upgrade? If you want to look for problems or reasons to upgrade, install MSI Afterburner an enable it to show you CPU load of individual cores as well as GPU load. If any core is above 90%, CPU is probably limiting. If GPU load is at 98-100%, your GPU is probably limiting.
Alternatively you can always set a FPS limiter (preferably in-game or in MSI Afterburner) to get more even frame times. If your FPS are CPU bound, you can use DSR or in-game supersampling to shift load on the GPU. You will get better image quality for free, so to speak..
Thanks!

I guess I should try that. Don't know why I haven't yet! I even have CPUz and the other one that measures the rest of the system!

If you really want to go for a new CPU, get a 6C CPU with SMT. 6C CPUs without SMT (like 8600K) are a bit of a compromise, because, even in some older games (like Assassin's Creed Origins), they already slower that some (older) 4C/4T CPUs.
That is what I am worried about. My clock speed is fairly high. I have 4 cores. Will getting a new CPU with 4ish cores running at similar clock speeds make any difference??
 
Thanks! And sure thing, regarding requiring new MB and RAM. (I tend to bulk them all together.)

I have a 1070. Because the CPU is so old I always feel as though it needs upgrading!
Oh my indecisiveness!

The 1070 should be fine for VR. I have been using an AMD Fury non X. And had good results with my oculus rift. The 1070 is a bit better then my card so you should be fine even with your older processor.

I got an updated processor as I am getting Pimax 8k hopefully this year. I just need a new GPU and I will be ready to go.
 
If you really want to go for a new CPU, get a 6C CPU with SMT. 6C CPUs without SMT (like 8600K) are a bit of a compromise, because, even in some older games (like Assassin's Creed Origins), they already slower that some (older) 4C/4T CPUs.

That can depend on a lot of factors such as clock speed and ram speeds. But nearly all the benchmarks I have seen has the 8600k very far away from the older processors. The one that gets close is the 7700k. It is much faster then the 2600k on every benchmark I have seen. I much prefer 2 physical cores to four threads.

I got my 8600k for about £140 from ebay and it works perfectly overclocked to 4.4ghz. I could go higher with a better cooler, but I don't see the point at the moment. I will likely only gain 1 or 2 fps.
 
That is what I am worried about. My clock speed is fairly high. I have 4 cores. Will getting a new CPU with 4ish cores running at similar clock speeds make any difference??
If you get something like 6700K or 7700K, it will be faster than your current 2600K (even at OC). You will finds lots of benchmarks regarding this specific comparison, as some websites re-reviewed the performance of the 2600K recently. I wouldn't (and haven't, even two years ago) upgrade a 4-core CPU for another 4-core CPU. The price is not worth the performance gain and 4C/ 8T CPUs began to struggle on certain games a year ago. Today Assassin´s Creed Oddysse, Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Battlefield V can put a 4C/ 4T CPU under full load. Therefore I don't recommend hardware, that is even today (potentially) running at its limit.

That can depend on a lot of factors such as clock speed and ram speeds. But nearly all the benchmarks I have seen has the 8600k very far away from the older processors. The one that gets close is the 7700k. It is much faster then the 2600k on every benchmark I have seen. I much prefer 2 physical cores to four threads.
Yes, the 8600K is faster than a 2600K, but it is not always faster than a 4770K to 7700K. This is true for engines that are highly optimized for multiple threads, which is a future trend. That is why I would not recommend it under all circumstances nowadays.

I got my 8600k for about £140 from ebay and it works perfectly overclocked to 4.4ghz. I could go higher with a better cooler, but I don't see the point at the moment. I will likely only gain 1 or 2 fps.
I think that is a fair deal, especially regarding the unrealistic pricing of Intel CPUs currently. Higher clock speed (or memory speed) is only beneficial, if your game is not too much GPU bound. So even if you ran the CPU at 5Ghz, you would gain 0 FPS, if your GPU is limiting.
 
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