Modes 5 minutes in Open...

[Ian Skippy]

This true: I get a feeling when I drop into a system and flick through the radar targets and a holo-wing turns in my direction.


Not bad, not bad at all. There will be salt from those Harmless Annie grinders, who can't pull anything.

Yeah. There is a very small selection of ships (Cutter, Corvette, FDL, FAS) and some other warning signs. When in doubt, point at them and scan. Loadout tells you more than enough, and any wanted status just confirms it. if so, select another system, prepare jump while staying stationary. When charged, either jump if destiantion is towards opponent or fly behindt them, turn and jump.

Its the 'point at target, alt+tab, yolo' people who get ganked.

within 3 ranks, just like the point scoring system for combat ranking; maybe?

I want elite cmdrs to be able to try and gank my alt account. My alt never gets above novice.

 

[Arry]

Yeah. There is a very small selection of ships (Cutter, Corvette, FDL, FAS) and some other warning signs. When in doubt, point at them and scan. Loadout tells you more than enough, and any wanted status just confirms it. if so, select another system, prepare jump while staying stationary. When charged, either jump if destiantion is towards opponent or fly behindt them, turn and jump.

Its the 'point at target, alt+tab, yolo' people who get ganked.



I want elite cmdrs to be able to try and gank my alt account. My alt never gets above novice.

Understood.

 

[GG7]

Having your ship shot out from under you is what open is all about. I haven't played in open in over a year. I don't miss it at all.

Not to mention the god awful issues with instancing that get you stuck trying to get out of SC, or just seeing all the other human players rubber banding all over the damned place!

Solo is so much more smooth and stable than Open, which is something I rarely see mentioned, despite it being a well known fact. At least to those of us who have compared the two back to back over many sessions, and can see that the Solo version of ED feels like a totally different game a good portion of the time. A much better game!

 

[wrmiller]

Not to mention the god awful issues with instancing that get you stuck trying to get out of SC, or just seeing all the other human players rubber banding all over the damned place!

Solo is so much more smooth and stable than Open, which is something I rarely see mentioned, despite it being a well known fact. At least to those of us who have compared the two back to back over many sessions, and can see that the Solo version of ED feels like a totally different game a good portion of the time. A much better game!

I have similar experiences with Mobius PvE. When in that mode and I start seeing open squares jerking all over the place I just go back to solo. So much better gameplay.

 

[Arry]

Not to mention the god awful issues with instancing that get you stuck trying to get out of SC, or just seeing all the other human players rubber banding all over the damned place!

Solo is so much more smooth and stable than Open, which is something I rarely see mentioned, despite it being a well known fact. At least to those of us who have compared the two back to back over many sessions, and can see that the Solo version of ED feels like a totally different game a good portion of the time. A much better game!

I have felt this as well and was not sure if it was my basic laptop system stats. I seem to be able to jump faster in the private group, I sometimes play in.

 

[Gédéon_Lecanard]

Just because you won't get a game ban for it does not mean it isn't cheating. The PvP community does not care if it's a task kill or menu log. It will still get you on the EliteCombatLoggers subreddit and added to the master KOS list (which is searchable on most pvp discords)--and then you will be ganked quite often.

Hear, hear. A shame, though, that Frontier get to make the rules for their game. And the game itself, with such features as a 15 sec timer menu log out.
On the other hand, I'm not sure but I think that naming people on a public KOS list for a game (with some of said people using a regular feature of the game, nonetheless) might be considered as online harassment. Really, not sure. But we might want to check.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Hear, hear. A shame, though, that Frontier get to make the rules for their game. And the game itself, with such features as a 15 sec timer menu log out.
On the other hand, I'm not sure but I think that naming people on a public KOS list for a game (with some of said people using a regular feature of the game, nonetheless) might be considered as online harassment. Really, not sure. But we might want to check.

Its harassment if it takes place using in-game communication or the FD forums. On reddit, its free4all. Tbh, KOS is just as much for petty losers as using the menu to log when in danger, but hey. We're talking about manchildren and space games.

 

[Gédéon_Lecanard]

Its harassment if it takes place using in-game communication or the FD forums. On reddit, its free4all. Tbh, KOS is just as much for petty losers as using the menu to log when in danger, but hey. We're talking about manchildren and space games.

To be fair being on such a list is not something I'd be concerned about. We're talking about a game, indeed, it's really trivial. Thing is, people are free to play the way they want within the game rules. Free to attack whoever they want, the way they want, free to log out to the menu as well, it's all fine. Why is there a debate, it's a wonder.

edit: a debate about cheating/not cheating, that is. The one about people behaviour (griefing and logging) is another thing.

 

[WR3ND]

I actually like the challenge and opportunity Open presents, but it took me a while to realize that I'm playing this game for different reasons than many others. The PVP meta isn't for me. Ideally other Commanders would just be part of the game environment within the context of the game's universe. That's not really the case so much and the Engineers have crated a huge gap between play styles. Basically, there are other things I'd rather be doing with my time in the game.

 

[Morbad]

Again, I’m getting lots of tips and tricks for surviving in open with an engineered ship. The fact is I was engineering the ship. As in it wasn’t Engineered yet. So again it seems like the criteria for surviving open is maximally optimizes engineered ship or you’re toast. Thanks horizons.

You can survive with no engineering at all, it's just a bit trickier as you're that much softer and slower.

It's mostly about not getting pulled over in the first place, but if you do get yanked, make sure you submit properly, dump a sink the moment the instance loads, fly evasive and high-wake to your escape waypoint.

Also, a sled filled with HRPs and at least two MRPs will make it much easier to survive a few hits.

If you emergency drop you leave a beacon and have a 1 minute cool down, no?

Not quite 1 minute, but yes it's longer and you do leave a low wake.

 

[Cmdr Ultra]

It is strange isn't it?

Play in Open but log when your going to die. Then tell everyone about it. Very puzzling.

10's of thousands of people play all day long in Open - but you can't figure it out?

 

[Doctor Zajo]

I do not believe the OP at all.

 

[Susanna]

You've got Mobius and Open confused.

Mobius: Predictable behaviour of random ships (everybody holding hands singing "kumbaya")
Open: Unpredictable behaviour of many random ships (you never know if the next CMDR you see will say hi, say nothing, attack you or whether they'll help save you or help kill you.)

I'll take 'Kumbaya' any day over sociopathic manics who's actions I have not a clue about. In Mobius the options are all the same as Open, with the exception of attack/kill you...

 

[Cmdr Ultra]

I'll take 'Kumbaya' any day over sociopathic manics who's actions I have not a clue about. In Mobius the options are all the same as Open, with the exception of attack/kill you...

Excellent choice. Problem solved. o7

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

Excellent choice. Problem solved. o7

I dunno. Have you seen all the authoritarians carrying on about new C and P system? There's way worse out there than some funsters with guns.

 

[lokvette]

Well I have to say to the OP, thats 5 more minutes than me.

Used to play in open but after 3 weeks off not seeing anyone, ok I was at the bottom end of nowhere I went back to solo pop into open once or twice to look about but really dont see the point in doing it at any hubs or CGs. But you know its open and open is open..... wait this topic has been talked about before hasnt it....

ohh and Cmdr Ultra.

Rep for that avatar, Nemesis Blitzspear, now if only FD would give me one of them.

 

[Grey Wolfe]

That's really unfortunate... By contrast I can spend months at a time in Open and only see another player at CGs. And at those CGs I've only been interdicted once.

I'd say it's worth giving it another go, personally. Just sounds like a bad run.

... although many comments in this thread say something similar to the one ive quoted, I'd say this particular one has been exactly my experience too.

 

[Faybs]

You've got Mobius and Open confused.

Mobius: Predictable behaviour of random ships (everybody holding hands singing "kumbaya")
Open: Unpredictable behaviour of many random ships (you never know if the next CMDR you see will say hi, say nothing, attack you or whether they'll help save you or help kill you.)

Mobius: you can fly any ship you like. Blaze your own trail.
Open: you can only fly ships optimized for surviving combat. Do what the guys in more powerful ships tell you to do.

 

[Avago Earo]

I dunno. Have you seen all the authoritarians carrying on about new C and P system? There's way worse out there than some funsters with guns.

Why go on their forums, then?

 

[Cmdr Ultra]

ohh and Cmdr Ultra.

Rep for that avatar, Nemesis Blitzspear, now if only FD would give me one of them.

"This should bore me... the endless fights... the endless punishment we inflict on each other... But... I just can't get enough of it. Fighting with the most insane creature from this asylum world... So violent. So dangerous. That's what makes it so exciting. So good." quote Nemesis the Warlock 2000 AD prog 593