Game Discussions Whiskey's Guide to Not Being Salty

Greetings, Commanders! o7

Have you just been ganked while delivering biowaste to some bubble station while rank grinding? Did the Gnosis shoot you in the bum while you were trying to protect it from Space Invaders? Are you disappointed with the fact that Elite's development pace and Frontier's rate of communication are on par with the movement speed of a dead sloth?

Well, good news! This topic is for you.

Today, we'll be covering the top three essential tools you will need in order to not be salty about any of this. Yes, I realize that being salty about things drives about 95% of the traffic around here, and that most of the outrage is fake, but it doesn't hurt to arm yourself with the following "arsenal of chill" anyway so that you can rise above it all and enjoy the ride while you're on it.

1) Become Acquainted and Comfortable with Death

Chances are, you're going to die.

Fortunately for you, your space pixels weren't anything of real value to begin with. Touring the galaxy in Open is like swimming in the ocean. No, not everything in there wants to eat you, but some of it is hungry all the time and you are wiggling around on its plate. If a shark happens to drift by and nibbles on your toes, you should not be the least bit surprised. Upset that your perfectly good toes have been ruined? Sure. Salty? Never. You knew this could happen, and it did. No sense complaining about it. And if you die to gravity or a disconnection or the dreaded Glitch Gremlin, that's alright too. Just say to yourself "I didn't want that progress anyway. It was merely holding me back". You'll thank me for it.

2) Lower Your Expectations

You might as well.

Frontier are wonderful at painting beautiful pictures for all of us to fly around it, but they mostly specialize in landscapes, and there aren't a lot of happy little trees in them. Hopes that they will suddenly begin producing well-planned, intricate and rewarding Salvador Dalí-like spectacles are clearly misguided. If this reality makes you not want to play Elite, that's fine. If it doesn't, well, you're just going to have to come to terms with it and move on for the sake of your own sanity. The Gnosis was botched. Anticipate more of the same. And do not expect Space Legs to change this experience all that much. Sure you'll be able to walk around, but you'll never be staring down Greedo across a sticky table in a dusty space bar.

3) Set Your Own Goals

Build a racer, because you can.

Search for and join a PG full of people who like the same things about this game that you do, because the game won't help you with that. Ignore leaks and rumors and speculation, because they're completely meaningless. Do not build toward enjoyment of some feature that may or may not ever be implemented. Instead, built toward the outer limits of what is already available to you. We are all as responsible for our own disappointment as those who disappoint us. Speak out because you care about the future of this game, but do so with the knowledge that deaf ears are all around you, and that in the end you will either get what you always wanted, or you'll be playing something else which has it.

It is my sincere hope that this is helpful to someone out there. Between you and me, all I really want out of Elite is a little fun and a Cockpit Cat. And if I never get my Cockpit Cat, I won't be disappointed. I'll become enraged and rampage around the city of Tokyo destroying things with my meaty fists and atomic breath, sure, but that's their problem.
 
I know, right? So much text. I mean, what is this, a forum?

he is giving advice to people that most likely will never see it because they haven't a forum account yet, and when they do will be too mad to use the search function.
100%. The OP is pure catharsis. Well, that and me wanting to have something I can just link people to in certain circumstances.
 
It's probably not a good idea to try and tell people what they should or shouldn't be salty about unless you've experience exactly the same issues.

I, for example, had to stop playing ED (a product I paid cash-money for, lest we forget) for about 6 months because using the galmap caused CTDs roughly 33% of the time I tried to use it.
When I pointed this out, the most common responses were as follows:-

1) "I'm not getting that issue" - Well, that's just marvellous... for you. Doesn't help me much, though.
2) "It's not really a big deal" - maybe not if you never travel more than, say, 50Ly from the same place.
3) "Try lowering the galmap settings" - Yes, I'm not a moron and I have this problem DESPITE adjusting the galmap settings.

It took at least 6 months for FDev to fix this (I don't know, exactly, because I only found out it'd been fixed when I tried playing again after almost a year out) and they never even acknowledged the problem, or that it'd been fixed.

Similar thing happened with the new lighting.
It made the game, literally, unplayable for me.
If I set the Gamma & HUD brightness high enough that I could actually see my scanner in dark areas, it became a burned-out blur in bright areas.
If I set it dark enough that I could see it in bright areas it became too dark to see in dark areas.
Playing the game meant that I had to open up the main menu whenever the lighting changed, twiddle the gamma settings, go back into the game and then twiddle the HUD brightness settings.
And, if I failed to do that, I'd have to hope that nothing happened that required the use of any HUD elements because I wouldn't be able to see them.

Similar responses to above.

1) "I'm not geting that issue" - Well, shut your yap and let the people who ARE having trouble try to get FDev's attention.
2) "It's not really a big deal" - For me it is so (once again) shut your yap and let the people who ARE having trouble attempt to get FDev's attention.


I swear, whenever I see somebody post "I'm not getting that issue" without, at least, attempting to discuss WHY they're not having the same problem, it makes me want to climb through the internet and do bad things to the poster. :mad:
 
It's probably not a good idea to try and tell people what they should or shouldn't be salty about unless you've experience exactly the same issues.

I, for example, had to stop playing ED (a product I paid cash-money for, lest we forget) for about 6 months because using the galmap caused CTDs roughly 33% of the time I tried to use it.
When I pointed this out, the most common responses were as follows:-

1) "I'm not getting that issue" - Well, that's just marvellous... for you. Doesn't help me much, though.
2) "It's not really a big deal" - maybe not if you never travel more than, say, 50Ly from the same place.
3) "Try lowering the galmap settings" - Yes, I'm not a moron and I have this problem DESPITE adjusting the galmap settings.

It took at least 6 months for FDev to fix this (I don't know, exactly, because I only found out it'd been fixed when I tried playing again after almost a year out) and they never even acknowledged the problem, or that it'd been fixed.

Similar thing happened with the new lighting.
It made the game, literally, unplayable for me.
If I set the Gamma & HUD brightness high enough that I could actually see my scanner in dark areas, it became a burned-out blur in bright areas.
If I set it dark enough that I could see it in bright areas it became too dark to see in dark areas.
Playing the game meant that I had to open up the main menu whenever the lighting changed, twiddle the gamma settings, go back into the game and then twiddle the HUD brightness settings.
And, if I failed to do that, I'd have to hope that nothing happened that required the use of any HUD elements because I wouldn't be able to see them.

Similar responses to above.

1) "I'm not geting that issue" - Well, shut your yap and let the people who ARE having trouble try to get FDev's attention.
2) "It's not really a big deal" - For me it is so (once again) shut your yap and let the people who ARE having trouble attempt to get FDev's attention.


I swear, whenever I see somebody post "I'm not getting that issue" without, at least, attempting to discuss WHY they're not having the same problem, it makes me want to climb through the internet and do bad things to the poster. :mad:
What's the big deal, I didn't have any of those issues? :D
 
It's probably not a good idea to try and tell people what they should or shouldn't be salty about unless you've experience exactly the same issues.

you do have a point, but imo that could easily be addressed with the following edit in op:

Today, we'll be covering the top three essential tools you will need can use in order to not be salty about any of this.

i would recommend adding a cat pic too. cat pics always work!
 
I swear, whenever I see somebody post "I'm not getting that issue" without, at least, attempting to discuss WHY they're not having the same problem, it makes me want to climb through the internet and do bad things to the poster. :mad:
Ah yes. The technical issues. Dealing with them is a whole other ballgame. That's genuine frustration with the way that a game functions with your specific connection and rig. Not much to chill about here, because online products that you meet the requirements for should always work, and when they don't it means you're sidelined from an experience you want to be having because of some random incompatibility.

I'm afraid the only cure for the flack people give you over these complaints is some good whiskey and then a different game. Either that or you make a lot of hardware and connectivity adjustments that can be just as frustrating as the original problem itself.

I feel for you, Stealthie. That sucks.

i would recommend adding a cat pic too. cat pics always work!
I've overheated that particular power plant already in another thread.
 
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Greetings, Commanders! o7

Have you just been ganked while delivering biowaste to some bubble station while rank grinding? Did the Gnosis shoot you in the bum while you were trying to protect it from Space Invaders? Are you disappointed with the fact that Elite's development pace and Frontier's rate of communication are on par with the movement speed of a dead sloth?

Well, good news! This topic is for you.

Today, we'll be covering the top three essential tools you will need in order to not be salty about any of this. Yes, I realize that being salty about things drives about 95% of the traffic around here, and that most of the outrage is fake, but it doesn't hurt to arm yourself with the following "arsenal of chill" anyway so that you can rise above it all and enjoy the ride while you're on it.

1) Become Acquainted and Comfortable with Death

Chances are, you're going to die.

Fortunately for you, your space pixels weren't anything of real value to begin with. Touring the galaxy in Open is like swimming in the ocean. No, not everything in there wants to eat you, but some of it is hungry all the time and you are wiggling around on its plate. If a shark happens to drift by and nibbles on your toes, you should not be the least bit surprised. Upset that your perfectly good toes have been ruined? Sure. Salty? Never. You knew this could happen, and it did. No sense complaining about it. And if you die to gravity or a disconnection or the dreaded Glitch Gremlin, that's alright too. Just say to yourself "I didn't want that progress anyway. It was merely holding me back". You'll thank me for it.

2) Lower Your Expectations

You might as well.

Frontier are wonderful at painting beautiful pictures for all of us to fly around it, but they mostly specialize in landscapes, and there aren't a lot of happy little trees in them. Hopes that they will suddenly begin producing well-planned, intricate and rewarding Salvador Dalí-like spectacles are clearly misguided. If this reality makes you not want to play Elite, that's fine. If it doesn't, well, you're just going to have to come to terms with it and move on for the sake of your own sanity. The Gnosis was botched. Anticipate more of the same. And do not expect Space Legs to change this experience all that much. Sure you'll be able to walk around, but you'll never be staring down Greedo across a sticky table in a dusty space bar.

3) Set Your Own Goals

Build a racer, because you can.

Search for and join a PG full of people who like the same things about this game that you do, because the game won't help you with that. Ignore leaks and rumors and speculation, because they're completely meaningless. Do not build toward enjoyment of some feature that may or may not ever be implemented. Instead, built toward the outer limits of what is already available to you. We are all as responsible for our own disappointment as those who disappoint us. Speak out because you care about the future of this game, but do so with the knowledge that deaf ears are all around you, and that in the end you will either get what you always wanted, or you'll be playing something else which has it.

It is my sincere hope that this is helpful to someone out there. Between you and me, all I really want out of Elite is a little fun and a Cockpit Cat. And if I never get my Cockpit Cat, I won't be disappointed. I'll become enraged and rampage around the city of Tokyo destroying things with my meaty fists and atomic breath, sure, but that's their problem.

I take absolutely exception to everything you said. My job is to wipe those tables down at the Mos Eisley Cantina, and by God, they are NOT sticky!

Oh, and that coin the idiot smuggler.. I mean MURDERER ... tossed over at the barkeeper? You think I saw any of that? Nope. Not a single parsec (in the common language here, parsec is a measurement of distance, but also time, money, mass, density and weight measured in Wookie hair)!

But, guess who got to clean it up.

That's right. Yours truly.

"Sorry for the mess." He wasn't sorry.

But, at least Cockpit Cats are a thing.
 
It's probably not a good idea to try and tell people what they should or shouldn't be salty about unless you've experience exactly the same issues.

I, for example, had to stop playing ED (a product I paid cash-money for, lest we forget) for about 6 months because using the galmap caused CTDs roughly 33% of the time I tried to use it.
When I pointed this out, the most common responses were as follows:-

1) "I'm not getting that issue" - Well, that's just marvellous... for you. Doesn't help me much, though.
2) "It's not really a big deal" - maybe not if you never travel more than, say, 50Ly from the same place.
3) "Try lowering the galmap settings" - Yes, I'm not a moron and I have this problem DESPITE adjusting the galmap settings.

It took at least 6 months for FDev to fix this (I don't know, exactly, because I only found out it'd been fixed when I tried playing again after almost a year out) and they never even acknowledged the problem, or that it'd been fixed.

Similar thing happened with the new lighting.
It made the game, literally, unplayable for me.
If I set the Gamma & HUD brightness high enough that I could actually see my scanner in dark areas, it became a burned-out blur in bright areas.
If I set it dark enough that I could see it in bright areas it became too dark to see in dark areas.
Playing the game meant that I had to open up the main menu whenever the lighting changed, twiddle the gamma settings, go back into the game and then twiddle the HUD brightness settings.
And, if I failed to do that, I'd have to hope that nothing happened that required the use of any HUD elements because I wouldn't be able to see them.

Similar responses to above.

1) "I'm not geting that issue" - Well, shut your yap and let the people who ARE having trouble try to get FDev's attention.
2) "It's not really a big deal" - For me it is so (once again) shut your yap and let the people who ARE having trouble attempt to get FDev's attention.


I swear, whenever I see somebody post "I'm not getting that issue" without, at least, attempting to discuss WHY they're not having the same problem, it makes me want to climb through the internet and do bad things to the poster. :mad:

I'm not getting that issue.
 
I use Jamesons ...
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