8.5m Cr ship loss - 30+ hours wasted - discuss!

[Kayweg]

I think there should be a warning on launch if you're under your insurance limit, so you can decide otherwise and sell a module or two.

That's about all that is needed.

Right, and then the next thread title will be "didn't hear insurance warning coz phone rang and wife called, lost 7mil ship".

We can keep asking for failsafe upon failsafe upon failsafe all day long, it's not going to make a difference.

People WILL mess up and make errors, they always do. It is not FD's job to fix that.

The way insurance works is clear and straight forward, THAT was FD's job to make sure of, and they did.

 

[StephenB]

No other game has such harsh death penalties, especially as for the majority of people all of their assets are tied up in the ship....

Ever played DayZ? That's a game all about spending multiple hours collecting supplies then losing it all in a split second.

The system is fine; Most enjoy it. There would be no sense of danger if you could make as many mistakes as you wanted knowing you can buy back everything you had.

Nothing needs to be done about it as it was due to your miscalculation that ultimately caused it.

 

[Zylark]

What worries me more is that players are getting these big end game ships already. ED will find itself in a spot of bother if it continues down that line unless they have something special pretty soon imo. They'll run out of (one) reason to play quite quickly otherwise.

Takes years to get into the big ships in another mmo space sim i could mention not weeks or even days.

Those that do, must have been playing the game pretty hard since before release. If anyone is in an Anaconda and got the game after release, I doubt they had much contact with the real world since then.

Hell, I think I've been playing a lot, and I'm only in a slightly upgraded Type 6 with a well upgraded Cobra in storage. At this pace, a Python or Anaconda is still just a distant dream

As for the topic of the thread - and there are plenty of these threads for some reason - the game makes no secret of that if you venture out into space without enough credits stashed away to cover the insurance, Murphys Law still applies.

People who gamble and lose, have no right to cry. In this game, you have to expect the biowaste hitting the fan, even doing routine milkrun trade running. Anything may happen, death is just a moment away - at all time. If you want safe, don't leave the station. If you want acceptable risk, have enough for the insurance before leaving. If you get your thrills by high-stakes gambling, or just fail at thinking, leave the station without enough to cover the insurance. Good luck!

 

[Ben Ryder]

I just lost all my progress hours of work because I bought a more expensive upgrade then I meant to, which put me under the re buy limit. Timed with my first and only death in countless hours of game play. Honestly whats the point of having a loan to re buy system if the max loan is less then the cost to re buy the ship alone, not even any of the items....

No other game has such harsh death penalties, especially as for the majority of people all of their assets are tied up in the ship....

So now I have a choice either stop playing or replay 30+ hours in order to get back to where I was...

oh and if all you can post is some reworked statement about not going below rebuy value don't waste your time! This is posted in the hope that if enough people comment on this topic maybe something will get done about it.

Well said sir!

 

[Britannkic]

I think there should be a warning before any purchase, a warning before launch and a warning before entering into any kind of event .

I think these warnings should self-generated. I personally have an A rated brain* fitted in a class 10 skull for just this purpose

Some commanders just can't handle Elite


*ive face-butted stations whilst fully laden and unshielded at speed so many times. I want my money back

 

[Arcanas]

op: pro tip - dont crash into stations, and dont ever fly a ship you cannot afford to loose, risk/reward...

 

[ZENTRIERER]

Sorry OP,

never fly something that you cannot afford to lose.

Simple.

 

[Hekantonkheries]

It needs to be harsher, the current system is too soft, so you would not feel alone in your loss. The above should be a normal part of the game experience, basically teaching you to invest what you can lose, and not overcommit. It is just a different philosophy comparing to what most games today have, and you are advocating precisely for that (hand holding that most of the games do today, which makes them 10hrs and "done" experiences) to be repeated in Elite universe as well.

From my point of view insurance should be removed, at the moment the game is too "hand-holdy" overall, insurance being just one aspect of it.

they can make it harsher ones theyve finally squashed the bugs that'll randomly screw people out of all their work

namely stations randomly deciding youll make good target practice while docking, being insta-blaped by random pirate interdictions with a pirate-anaconda (which only happens because occasionally the escape-vector is removed entirely, its not that it flips around and you have to find it again, because ive seen the reticule disappear but still gain escape status while flying towards empty space, its busted)

fact is, right now insurance is the only thing keeping many players from just quitting, since there are alot of instances where your randomly assigned a "rocks fall" style event.

 

[ToniB]

oh and if all you can post is some reworked statement about not going below rebuy value don't waste your time!

sorry just did ^^

 

[Femerov]

as always, dont fly what you can't afford to loose. its the same as in EvE , HTFU

 

[Attis]

I've made this mistake only once myself ... never go under at least one REBUY COST. I like the rule ...

However as much as I LOVE Elite its getting boring as hell and I only started playing on release.

 

[Angelo]

Don't ever EVER go below your insurance money. You shouldn't even consider that money as a budget when you buy something. Sell some of the more expensive modules, replace them with cheaper ones if you have to, but always keep enough credits to cover your 10+ million worth ship. That's all you need to do, keep as much money as it's listed in the insurance tab. If your ship blows up and you don't have any trade money you can always sell some of your modules.

 

[ste]

sorry just did ^^

Thread title should read... I screwed up, but I want frontier sto fix it, I only want to hear from those that agree.

 

[apraksis]

I just lost all my progress hours of work because I bought a more expensive upgrade then I meant to, which put me under the re buy limit. Timed with my first and only death in countless hours of game play. Honestly whats the point of having a loan to re buy system if the max loan is less then the cost to re buy the ship alone, not even any of the items....

No other game has such harsh death penalties, especially as for the majority of people all of their assets are tied up in the ship....

So now I have a choice either stop playing or replay 30+ hours in order to get back to where I was...

oh and if all you can post is some reworked statement about not going below rebuy value don't waste your time! This is posted in the hope that if enough people comment on this topic maybe something will get done about it.

I'm sorry that happened to you. It happened to me, too, some time ago. Maybe a good solution would be to have a different playing mode. Just like the planed iron man mode but with less harsh consequences to 'wrong' action the player does.

 

[Lestat]

In my Cobra I have 4 buy back costs. Plus money to buy 4 x the cargo. I am saving up Lakon 6 at least 3x insurance cost. and 2 cargo buy back. I might get larger ships slowly. But I am not going to Whine because I died once or twice. I am covered for insurance and cargo. If I can't afford my ship. I going sell one of my modules and buy a sidewinder and grab my cobra.

Thread title should read... I screwed up, but I want frontier sto fix it, I only want to hear from those that agree.

I am thinking the tread should be called. I want this game to hold my hand. ya ya ya. Please hold my hand Ya ya ya.

 

[Craib]

They have already done something about it ..... Ship insurance .......

I understand that you may have over spent on a more expensive upgrade so why didn't you sell it again? Components can be re-bought and ships can be sold.

there are far too many posts of people complaining about loosing everything ..... This isn't the games fault ... The insurance mechanic is there for this reason. It's your fault (except with a bug) for not paying attention to what you are doing.

sorry if this is harsh but I have no sympathy for this situation .... And yes I too have lost everything but it was gamble I took and it didn't pay off ... So my own fault and one I take responsibility for.

I just lost all my progress hours of work because I bought a more expensive upgrade then I meant to, which put me under the re buy limit. Timed with my first and only death in countless hours of game play. Honestly whats the point of having a loan to re buy system if the max loan is less then the cost to re buy the ship alone, not even any of the items....

No other game has such harsh death penalties, especially as for the majority of people all of their assets are tied up in the ship....

So now I have a choice either stop playing or replay 30+ hours in order to get back to where I was...

oh and if all you can post is some reworked statement about not going below rebuy value don't waste your time! This is posted in the hope that if enough people comment on this topic maybe something will get done about it.