It should be noted as a lawful PvPer, I want to hunt him down as well <sigh>
It should be noted as a lawful PvPer, I want to hunt him down as well <sigh>
Hypothetical Situation:
Let's say a new and sexy pilot, let's call him Mr. W, were to come to you asking for help. Let's assume he's new to piloting a space craft; he's someone who can barely land a Sidewinder. Let's also stipulate that he tries to make peace with potential opponents only to find a frothing-at-the-mouth band of space pirates wanting to wreck his dreams of navigating the stars. In this scenario most of the pirates are pretty chill, but one of the pirates (let's call him LargeRootVegetable) is really breathing some hate filled threats. In that scenario would you help the pilot out or sit on the sidelines eating hot dogs while the new pilot is tortured by the large satanic carrot?
TheMegaTurnip
Banned
One billion imperial slaves!
Or some sharks with frickin laserbeams on thier frickin heads.
TheMegaTurnip
Banned
Unfortunatly, most will watch the satanic veggie.
(Not hate filled, im just here for the giggles, I actually cannot be bothered to put the time and effort into hunting specific players. Also, I don't often kill newbies unless they abuse the gold rushes and run straight to the bigboi ships)
Veggie Tales!
Same.
This thread has been fun.
It is nice that the game has a vibrant community.
Can you fill me in on what an abuse of the gold rushes would be, exactly?
I've seen that term a couple of times and I don't have a context for it yet.
You are very generous.
I'll take the sharks/laserbeam combo.
TheMegaTurnip
Banned
Yeah on the whole the community is pretty decent, the division in it however is pretty toxic. The only real issue though is people pointing fingers without due cause. But eh, humanity is just a disagreeable beast.
Well like void opal mining, there are some missions/activities that yeild an incrementally higher payout than everything else. Which I guess is good to get folks going, but it does then leave them lacking the majority of skill that is learned in the smaller vessels. (Such skills cannot be mastered as effectivey in larger vessels, often resulting in said cmdr, being flattened and then complaining that his warship isnt stupidly OP)
I'm not saying to avoid the gold rushes by any means, we all use them from time to time, but I will advise you stick to a natural ship progression even if you do use them. Long term you'll be glad you did.
One skill in particular is PiP management. The smaller vessels have much smaller distributors so require far more work on the Pips than any other size class of ship, especially when running high draw loadouts.
When you get to the medium class you get ships that break the need to learn such skills. IE: The Kraits. (C7 distro, permaboost on 2 pips and a pretty much hever ending weapon cap.)
Follow the right progression and learn the right skills, you'll be pewpewing with the best of them. Skip to much and you risk missing out on some key skills that can save you in the long term.
Good luck and first chance you get buy a Viper III/IV and learn the majority of combat skills in that if you have the patience too. Getting into a medium such as the Chieftan or FDL after extended time in smaller vessels will mean you find the bigger ones way easier and given enough time, you will be melting face .
GLHF o7
Not to hijack the thread, but this raises a question I've been pondering recently (and experimenting with too, using my recently-started alt account). How soon would you recommend a new pilot get into engineering? Used to, I would have probably recommended avoiding combat-oriented mods until after gaining some experience fighting NPCs in standard spec ships, as that could also lead to skipping over some basic skills. But for instance right now, my alt is in a mostly-A-rated unengineered Adder and feels badly underpowered against NPC Vipers and such, and I think the change is due to NPCs using engineering effects. Any thoughts?
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TheMegaTurnip
Banned
Its arguably the meat of game completion. As soon as you feel comfortable doing it is the answer.
It's advisable to fly without engineering for a while just to cement the skill in, as engineering increases a ships combat effectiveness by something like 300%. so it does become easier to fly after engineering but again, much like jumping into a big ship straight of the bat, you are depriving yourself of some nessasary skills. (If youre on an alt its probably not so withstanding)
Well the issue with the Adder is that it IS very much underpowered even compared to Eagles. It's not a ship setup for combat. Not sating it can't be effective Vs NPC's with a bit of time and practice, also the afrementioned engineering will ehlp, but it is superseeded by more or less every combat orientated vessel.
I'd say get a Viper III or IV. The four has slightly less pitch but utterly ridiculous lateral performance. The three has the legs to get in and out of fights and is far better at general positioning. The MKIV is harder in that respect but it can easily take x3 the punsihment before it has to go, which generally results in the target death before the Vipers.
Also yeah, they do have engineering though as far as I know its only low grade untill you hit up the "Pirate Activity Detected: Threat X" POI's, then they are all grade 3/4.
Low threat rating yeild less in the way of engineered NPC's, for instance a low risk RES will have very very few engineered vessels, whereas the HAZ will have more (But no special effects they are limited I think to the POI's)
First question: are you on PC? That’s my platform.
Yes.
I've a good friend who is also starting and he's already threatened to kill me.
Things seem to be going poorly for me.
LargeRootVegetable plays on PS4, if I remember correctly.
In any case, threats are just words. Punishment always comes after the crime.
In this case I think the L.R.V was more than patient with you.
I'd happily watch him kill you. Even without hotdogs.
And let's be honest this whole thread seemed to be a fishing expedition anyway.
Why else would any sane beginner start their game experience by antagonizing the player group?
I'd happily watch him kill you. Even without hotdogs.
And let's be honest this whole thread seemed to be a fishing expedition anyway.
Why else would any sane beginner start their game experience by antagonizing the player group?
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Tickets are going fast!
Always liked dog’s sense of humour. He once snatched my newly bought nokia 3310, from the bench I left it on, while I was playing basketball, went around the corner, ate half of it (german shepherd) and brought me the other half as if he just found it and put it at my feet. To this day I don’t have a heart to blame him. He was on duty, patrolling the territory, found suspicious object, attempted to destroy it, but couldn’t and came to me for further instruction. Flawless execution.
Flawless execution, Wargfoot. Keep those ears trained for danger.
Flawless execution, Wargfoot. Keep those ears trained for danger.
Not surprising to me at all. It is true some people will do anything for salt but I wouldn't use out of game channels to arrange a gank and many other PvPers/gankers/whatever feel similarly. I've taught randos whom I pulled how to dock, wake, cargo scoop, black market, a few other things. Pirates occasionally even have to teach their prey how to jettison cargo or reboot/repair. Best way to learn PvP is from other PvP'ers.
Lol I'm flattered at the name drop but I am arguably not even a ganker in bubble since I generally fly solo and give people a soft out via comms. There are much worse (better?) gankers than me or Turnip in console scrub galaxy. I am merely the only one on PS4 crazy/stupid/dedicated/whatever enough to jump 25kly and gank. I also post too much (obviously).
I suppose we'll see if this little sightseeing trip has driven me over the edge to full on bubble gankery when I get back.
Showing up in Shinrarta in a Corvette and complaining when Turnip smashes. There was a thread a week or two ago, probably locked by now.
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