I've been looking to get ED for a while now and all the reviews I've read are a bit mixed. I've also seen the term a mile wide and an inch deep used repeatedly through out various reviews. I'm definitely interested in playing but I don't want to waste money on a game that may have a forgettable experience or is just an endless grindfest. So I'm asking all of you veterans to sell me on Elite: Dangerous, what is it about this game that keeps you coming back besides being a masochist?
A mile wide, an inch deep: Change my mind.
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Ian Phillips
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Well you've biased your question quite nicely there.
OP is a troll. Change my mind.
You're entitled to your oponion. wjy would I try to change it?
talking someone into playing a video game they've mostly decided they don't want to play? meh. its a video game. its not that important. find something else to do that you don't need to be talked into.
You're entitled to your oponion. wjy would I try to change it?
talking someone into playing a video game they've mostly decided they don't want to play? meh. its a video game. its not that important. find something else to do that you don't need to be talked into.
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So you attack game and attack players that like it?
Troll is troll. Be gone.
Troll is troll. Be gone.
Yup the complaints are real, this games suckes big time, that's why so many of us have thousands of hours invested in it.
True there are some grind elements in ED but only if you choose to grind.
I've done only one grind, to get the Imperial Cutter, but besides that I've never bothered to grind.
Result, 2000+ hours of fun, 4.7 billion in assets, 28 ships and still so many things I haven't done yet.
I agree that some content is locked behind a grind wall, guardian modules for example, which is a shame and poor game design.
However imho those aren't such big of a deal in order to dismiss ED altogether.
ED looks and sounds beautiful but you have to make it your own game, let no one tell you how to play it, do what you want.
If you don't like grinding the yes some things take a while longer to obtain them.
On the other hand when you take your time you will have more time enjoying each aspect or new ship for example.
Others may and will disagree with me but hey I don't care because I'm having fun, my way.
Just my two cents.
Major question is - why I should change anyone's mind about ED, especially with entry like this?
ED for me has always been about self discovery. If someone is not capable to see depth, then he isn't. That's his decision.
ED for me has always been about self discovery. If someone is not capable to see depth, then he isn't. That's his decision.
... it's not an inch deep.
I'm vocal in what I like and what I don't
But I wont try to change your mind. Some time ago I made a thread about no grinding no chasing ranks. Do what you want. Enjoy what you do. Thats the only way to play ( of course that's my personal opinion and works for me). That's why I come back. It's spaceships with a pretty good flight model ( although not realistic) if you go FA off.
TLDR
just play how you want not how people expect you to.
But I wont try to change your mind. Some time ago I made a thread about no grinding no chasing ranks. Do what you want. Enjoy what you do. Thats the only way to play ( of course that's my personal opinion and works for me). That's why I come back. It's spaceships with a pretty good flight model ( although not realistic) if you go FA off.
TLDR
just play how you want not how people expect you to.
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"A mile wide, an inch deep" it's a lovely generic catchphrase, but surely the reviews you read went into details clarifying what they meant by that?
If it was user reviews - aka opinion pieces - then I can understand the lack of useful information.
Is there anything specific you want to know? Cause it's a lot to write without any additional context.
If it was user reviews - aka opinion pieces - then I can understand the lack of useful information.
Is there anything specific you want to know? Cause it's a lot to write without any additional context.
I think the game has a lot to offer and basic progression is pretty straightforward, though in my opinion it can get rather convoluted Engineering your modules. Some find the learning curve steeper than others. I'd say if you're familiar with flight sims or flight controls and can manage taking the time to set up and learn the specifics of the control options in the game, you should do alright.
I think people (and maybe even Frontier themselves) often get hung up on progression instead of enjoying playing the game for what it has to offer at face value.
I think if you like mucking around in space and are at least passingly into astronomy you'll enjoy the game more than if you aren't. Also, likewise if you like exploring what different locations in the game have to offer to give you a wider range of knowledge of what your options are and how you'd like to progress toward them, and of course if you like dogfighting type combat, or at least finding ways to escape it when needed.
I think people (and maybe even Frontier themselves) often get hung up on progression instead of enjoying playing the game for what it has to offer at face value.
I think if you like mucking around in space and are at least passingly into astronomy you'll enjoy the game more than if you aren't. Also, likewise if you like exploring what different locations in the game have to offer to give you a wider range of knowledge of what your options are and how you'd like to progress toward them, and of course if you like dogfighting type combat, or at least finding ways to escape it when needed.
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Its beautiful, you really do get the sense that you are piloting a space ship, its fun to fly in a wing and do combat and trade missions.
Otoh i have gotten so infurated with the engineers and the associated grind i cleared two saves before the one im currently working on.
I have 6-8 ships and 860 or so million credits.
I have nothing to spend the money on because the thought of buying a new ship is completely surmounted by the disgust i feel at doing the engineers grind to upgrade it. So the credits are absolutely worthless to me, and dont let anyone tell you that the engineers are optional.
The only way they are optional is if you dont actually want to fly your ship. Once you get to competent or expert rank you will start meeting npcs, sometimes in pairs or groups with engineered weapons.
The effort you put into trading or developing combat skill is offset by the random nature of the hunt for engineers commodities, and that being the case, the RNGineers grind dilutes and diminishes any sense of accomplishment you might feel.
It is beautiful, but unless you have a lot of patience and tolerance for grind, you might want to give it a pass. It does make a hell of a first impression though and that alone might be worth your money.
Oh and just in case you are buying the game to do PVP, Frontier has placed what seems to me a nearly insurmountable grindwall between you and that objective. Unless you have nearly endless patience or some sociopathic need, you may be dissapointed in that regard. I bought the game hoping to do PVP, remembering the old Freespace2 squadwars, and ED falls miserably short in comparision.
Otoh i have gotten so infurated with the engineers and the associated grind i cleared two saves before the one im currently working on.
I have 6-8 ships and 860 or so million credits.
I have nothing to spend the money on because the thought of buying a new ship is completely surmounted by the disgust i feel at doing the engineers grind to upgrade it. So the credits are absolutely worthless to me, and dont let anyone tell you that the engineers are optional.
The only way they are optional is if you dont actually want to fly your ship. Once you get to competent or expert rank you will start meeting npcs, sometimes in pairs or groups with engineered weapons.
The effort you put into trading or developing combat skill is offset by the random nature of the hunt for engineers commodities, and that being the case, the RNGineers grind dilutes and diminishes any sense of accomplishment you might feel.
It is beautiful, but unless you have a lot of patience and tolerance for grind, you might want to give it a pass. It does make a hell of a first impression though and that alone might be worth your money.
Oh and just in case you are buying the game to do PVP, Frontier has placed what seems to me a nearly insurmountable grindwall between you and that objective. Unless you have nearly endless patience or some sociopathic need, you may be dissapointed in that regard. I bought the game hoping to do PVP, remembering the old Freespace2 squadwars, and ED falls miserably short in comparision.
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The question is: Is ED worth the money?!
And well, it absolutely is.
You can
- trade
- pirate
- smuggle
- bounty hunt
- mine
- explore
- progress / outfit / tweak
- earn ranks and reputation
- fly FA off for super hard challenge pilot skills
- land on planets
- drive around in moon buggys
- play powerplay
- play the background simulation
etc. Etc.
Just trying out what the game offers you will take you 60 hours. And chances are, you will like some of it.
And if you dont, you played a game for 60 hours.
So... it is a very good deal.
Blaze your own trail
And well, it absolutely is.
You can
- trade
- pirate
- smuggle
- bounty hunt
- mine
- explore
- progress / outfit / tweak
- earn ranks and reputation
- fly FA off for super hard challenge pilot skills
- land on planets
- drive around in moon buggys
- play powerplay
- play the background simulation
etc. Etc.
Just trying out what the game offers you will take you 60 hours. And chances are, you will like some of it.
And if you dont, you played a game for 60 hours.
So... it is a very good deal.
Blaze your own trail
To be honest It's like Marmite....you either love or hate it.
I'm approaching 52weeks on my game clock, so I'd say that I'v had value for the money I'v spent on ED & Horizons.
You do need to be able to keep setting your own goals for things to acheive as some of the game content will be too slow or not to your liking.
I'm approaching 52weeks on my game clock, so I'd say that I'v had value for the money I'v spent on ED & Horizons.
You do need to be able to keep setting your own goals for things to acheive as some of the game content will be too slow or not to your liking.
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Inch wide, mile deep. Is that better?, or worse?