Faction: Arissa Lavigny-Duval A Plea to Arissa Lavigny-Duval Supporters

[CaterAxe]

Myself and a very small group of friends have been trying for well over a year to get our minor faction to take control of our home system Osermians. We are yet again in a war state with the controlling faction and after putting in hours of effort over the weekend we have lost both days of the war so far.

The faction we are against is a player faction but we have had dialog with them and none of their commanders are participation in the war or have done before.

The system is Exploited by Arissa Lavigny-Duval and is listed on her Inara page under "Alerts For Controlling Favourable Factions In Exploited Systems".

I am trying to make contact with anyone within the Arissa Power Play group so we can discuss a mutually beneficial outcome for all.

I apologizes to anyone that feels like they need to reply to this just to tell me of the futility of my quest to contact a group of player of a specific game on that specific games website.

 

[goemon]

well, good luck with that

why do you expect them to do so? it will potentially raise the costs for that power, in some cases massively.

you have chosen a type of goverment for your player groups faction which is not favorable to the power controlling.

and now you are asking the powerplay-players not to play their game?
what's in it for them?

with a minor faction in game there is neither a right nor a duty for it to control any system, even not their home system.

(i don't do powerplay, just wondering)

i'd suggest you try to go to the powers discord and cut some kind of deal - but you should be able to offer something (for exampel you squadron pledging to the power and work for the power or similar)

 

[cmdr milesred]

guess these are becoming a trend...

too bad frontier allows other pmf's to be inserted into other pmf spaces.

I thought the ones in my systems were bad at making choices.

This one is priceless..

are you BGS and/or PP experienced?
Did you pick that system on purpose??!

rock
u
very hardplace

 

[angusmadmac1]

I'm afraid there are plenty of PMF that are now abandoned due to the improper placement or The bigger PMF not wanting anyone in or near "their " place .

 

[cmdr milesred]

I know..
I personally have no idea if its the 9th, but even if its not, there are a lot of ALD supporters that ARE Empire and very dedicated.
if it is indeed the 9th, then he is just lucky they are being entertained.

then he is just lucky they are being entertained anyway, no matter who is opposing him.



'Are you BGS and/or PP experienced?'
'Are you aware you are asking to be placed in another pmf's space? '
'Are you ok with PVP?'
and at the bottom in fine print

Buyer Beware.

really ought to be on the application for pmf's

 

[Ian Doncaster]

ALD Power Discord is https://discord.gg/MHqaN6K - you should be able to make contact with someone there.

As goemon says, you'll be making their work harder if you take the system, but you might be able to come to some agreement where your squadron does the extra Powerplay work required as a result of that.

 

[goemon]

... and while in some power control bubbles i'd ask why powerplayers even care, that control bubble contests another powers control bubble.

bad system to choose as a home with a goverment type not favourable to the controlling power. as powerplay is pretty static i assume that already was the case when system and goverment type were chosen.

@OP to look at the bright side. as your faction would most likely be opposed grand scale expanding, there is not much to gain from system control. i'd settle for a station to control and create some lore around resisting powers and dictatorships.

 

[cmdr milesred]

one of my systems was pending expansion, it was a system I used to expand from quite often, very nicely placed and setup..

the day it was supposed to switch from pending, a pmf landed there , making it their home.


not one word to me.
but that was bad timing, expansion takes effort to get to, as does getting that system years ago and working it.
SO, with zero hesitation, I did look them up to see who's day I was going to ruin.

Then I stomped severely on them for the next 6 months.
.
Look before you leap.

 

[Muzz UK]

My issue is there is no indication or metric to show what you're up against so you don't know if one commander is putting in 14 hours of grind or a whole group is spamming the BGS. If the stations had a better stats page for transaction, income and contribution it would let small player factions focus their attention properly.

 

[goemon]

My issue is there is no indication or metric to show what you're up against so you don't know if one commander is putting in 14 hours of grind or a whole group is spamming the BGS. If the stations had a better stats page for transaction, income and contribution it would let small player factions focus their attention properly.

actually you have indicators by the station reports, once you start calculating relative values, for exampel of traffic report, crime report and bounty report. or e.g. calculate expected supply from economic size/hydrogen fuel and state effects - and compare that to the actual supply.

that kind of forensics is pretty nerdy though and in most cases superfluous - and in ops case more so. it's pretty obvious why powerplay commanders oppose that control change.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

If the stations had a better stats page for transaction, income and contribution it would let small player factions focus their attention properly.

It would be far more valuable to large factions - a small faction probably only has one crisis at a time anyway.

Letting the large faction know exactly how much effort they need to spare to crush you would not help.

 

[goemon]

generally for player faction placement ingame traffic report (looked up over a few weekends if you want to be thorough) is the most important indicator. multiply with 3 and ask yourself whether you can match that.

 

[goemon]

my quest to contact a group of player of a specific game on that specific games website.

as you have edited your original post since publishing, i'd now suggest to post your message to the powerplay subforum and tag it with the power in question.

 

[CaterAxe]

I accept all your opinions, I am fully aware our faction is clearly a very small fish in the elite pond, I mean if we have enough players and influence, I wouldn’t be trying to reach out to the ALD players.

I didn’t set up the PMF so I cannot attest to the government/allegiance chooses, but we moved to the system almost 2 years ago when it was not exploited by ADL and didn’t have any other PMFs in it, so although in hindsight I would not advise choosing to start a faction in such a system this is the hand I am currently dealt.

TBH this was a last-ditch attempt to contact these players to see if wee can come to some kind of deal, I fully expect nothing to come of it but at least I tried.

I am also try to contact them on Reddit (which they have unfortunately abandoned) and their Discord.

Goemon - cheers for the advice i do not use the forums really and had just assumed that the BGS would also cover PP factions i shall repost in the correct forum.

 

[cmdr milesred]

It is the action they most likely want and have wanted for some time.
Not Futile, most likely to work wonders.

 

[Cmdr. Numa]

Personally I think the whole concept of PMF was a very bad idea from the very start. It's even more puzzling since FDEV have been adamantly against any guild system for a long time and have eventually invented the squadron system halfheartedly, because players really wanted something like guilds (no surprise here). Yet there has been the possibility to get your own faction created from the get go. Still they are different from NPC factions by name only. They look the same, function the same, and players/groups don't even have any option to really join a faction except by roleplaying "this is me/us now". PMF should have never existed, instead it should be possible for players to actually join minor factions like they can join powers.

 

[cmdr milesred]

FWIW, contact prior to ending up in their space is a big deal

For me and my systems 2 of my invaders contacted me.
1 was peaceful and all they wanted was a path out of my systems.
1 was antagonistic and kept that for 2 years, fought then lost, then changed name, then moved(mostly)
1 inserted themselves into an edge system, then worked their way through several of my systems to take one specific system.
I watched only, as I was very busy with other invasions.
Now, they still have not contacted me, but are likely trying to figure out why the 3 systems they are in are being destroyed daily.
This all boils down to an incredible amount of time wasted for both parties.

Matters not to me, I have many systems and many many ships and carriers and billions and all I really do is build ships anyway, so I have tons of time on my hands and sooo many rude cmdrs to teach communication skills to.

the rest, I am STILL waiting for them to contact me.

Until that happens, I attack and damage their efforts every time I am in the game, they made it my goal.
All they have to do is contact me, the person they stole a system from with frontiers assistance.
The longer it takes, the more damage I do.
To be BLUNT, invade a persons system, don't expect nice.
Don't talk or make any effort to talk, don't expect nice.

oddly, apparently us and Thargoids, same deal.
And that attitude people get when they think its their right, Just like us towards the Thargoids.
And what do we do with goids?

so, here, if you are very BGS capable and are able to combat with the best, then invade and ignore those you invade.
and make your own version of a small war that could have been easily avoided.

want to play and not spend most of your time fighting a losing battle, CONTACT the people you invaded.

I know that all my texts on this topic are unfriendly.
Not something in my nature, but I happen to be one of the ones that was invaded by several NEW pmf's

It is not nice or fun
.
It is hard to view it from any other angle when it just keeps happening.

 

[Rebel Yell]

Blame FDEVs!

 

[cmdr milesred]

Blame FDEVs!

I do and I have sent many tickets and messages.
Its added content.
I get that, I just don't like being 'content'

It's like they could tell I was getting bored...

I hope they got a lot of enjoyment from the Nova war. That was big , long and involved a lot of cmdrs.

The only good in it is a Phoenix rises stronger after every rebirth.
From that perspective, I learned a lot from a very long war.

 

[Rebel Yell]

BGS wars are wars of attrition, some times (but it happens rarely) they bring both factions to PvP wing (or ground) fights. As other posters on this sub have argued, PvP is not to be seen as an efficient way to win a war from a game perspective (as BGS = grind, so doing missions/trading/bounties etc. is defo much more effective). But PvP might work when both parties come in direct engagement and the escalation to that results [quite often to my records] in a quick diplomatic resolution of the dispute.

Ultimately, the goal of the game is to have fun... everyone has his/her own way to achieve that goal.