A simple fix [semi fix] to combat logging!

[Rinzler o7o7o7]

Of course they can - subject to the Frontier implemented 15-second delay.

What they could not do is High-wake out....

Then how is piracy possible in this game? A 3A hatch-breaker has a hack time of 16s, but a trader can log out legally in 15

You can use pulse disruptors/module targeting to stop them from high-waking, but nothing stops them from logging out.
That is why people consider the 15s log a cheat.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Then how is piracy possible in this game? A 3A hatch breaker has a hack time of 16s, but a trader can log out legally in 15

You can use pulse disruptors/module targeting to stop them from high-waking, but nothing stops them from logging out.
That is why people consider the 15s log a cheat.

Piracy remains possible due to other players being willing to be pirated who then play along with the pirate. NPCs don't get a choice - they remain available for piracy.

It remains to be seen what Frontier will do, if anything, regarding the delay on exit while "in danger" (given that it has been in the game for a long time now).

On a much more basic level, we are all told to "play the game how you want to" - not "play the game how others want you to". Players who require others to engage with for their particular choice of gameplay will always be at risk of not finding others who want to participate in that particular playstyle.

 

[Rinzler o7o7o7]

On a much more basic level, we are all told to "play the game how you want to" - not "play the game how others want you to".

Traders who trade in open are opening themselves up to the prospect of piracy. I wonder why they don't play solo if they log as soon as they're being pirated.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Traders who trade in open are opening themselves up to the prospect of piracy. I wonder why they don't play solo if they log as soon as they're being pirated.

.... because Open is the only game mode with an unlimited population.

Hence the calls for an Open-PvE mode.

 

[micky1984]

How about the guys who are Mode Swapping for missions and log in into a mode they didn't expect to be in? How about the guy who plays in PG so he doesn't have to fly a hardened, combat only, ship in case of attack? How different is a High-Wake to a Graceful Exit? People are way too varied to just plunk down an insulting stereotype about players that choose to play in an environment other than open.

its not insulting its a fact people are playing in solo to avoid combat yes so let them stay there to avoid combat when they feellike theyare readyfor pvp let them come into open but not with all the easymode gear they have they come in from a fresh

 

[Derath]

Then how is piracy possible in this game? A 3A hatch-breaker has a hack time of 16s, but a trader can log out legally in 15

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You can use pulse disruptors/module targeting to stop them from high-waking, but nothing stops them from logging out.
That is why people consider the 15s log a cheat.

Hatch breakers hack time is lowered by hull damage percentage, so its almost instant on a 10% ship with a 3A, not that you'd actually get much cargo if they log out just saying hatch breakers do work , however its always been faster to damage their cargo hatch than use hatchbreakers anyway because they are so slow and easily countered.

 

[Nitek [pl]]

.... because Open is the only game mode with an unlimited population.

Hence the calls for an Open-PvE mode.

Which I hope will NEVER happen. I don't want to se pilots with god mode on. Game breaking.
I trade in open , you are free to add me to friend list and hunt me down. Anyone - This actually makes the game interesing for me. If you blow me up I am good and not salty!:]

 

[Mohrgan]

its not insulting its a fact people are playing in solo to avoid combat yes so let them stay there to avoid combat when they feellike theyare readyfor pvp let them come into open but not with all the easymode gear they have they come in from a fresh

Wouldn't you prefer to have opponents that are willing and prepared to fight rather than just another victim? Avoiding PvP combat is not some reason to insult someone. Plenty of players avoid combat by where in the galaxy they play. You hear that all of the time. Should those that play in the outskirts be insulted because they avoid crossing your path?

Too many people are single minded. They crave the conflict and are completely unwilling to accept that other play for different reasons. PvP is one facet of the game, and you just have to be satisfied with playing along with those that agree to. Your silly resentment of how others spend their game time is the cause of your frustration. Let it go. And enjoy what you do. Leave everyone else alone.

 

[micky1984]

im not frustraited at all my friend i am however sick to death of seeing cybaby players moaning about this and that in the game and those that grind away in saftey of solo then come to open thinking they are invincible dying easily then call those players griefers and such and combat logging when they realise they are going to lose

 

[micky1984]

Wouldn't you prefer to have opponents that are willing and prepared to fight rather than just another victim? Avoiding PvP combat is not some reason to insult someone. Plenty of players avoid combat by where in the galaxy they play. You hear that all of the time. Should those that play in the outskirts be insulted because they avoid crossing your path?

Too many people are single minded. They crave the conflict and are completely unwilling to accept that other play for different reasons. PvP is one facet of the game, and you just have to be satisfied with playing along with those that agree to. Your silly resentment of how others spend their game time is the cause of your frustration. Let it go. And enjoy what you do. Leave everyone else alone.

you show me where it states anywhere in the game you target or victim as you put it has to be willing ? your confusing this game with something else and are making up rules that dont exist if you dont want pvp stay out of open preferably for good but do not come in to open and pretend to yourself you did it the hard way

 

[Robert Maynard]

Which I hope will NEVER happen. I don't want to se pilots with god mode on. Game breaking.
I trade in open , you are free to add me to friend list and hunt me down. Anyone - This actually makes the game interesing for me. If you blow me up I am good and not salty!:]

Others have hopes that it would happen. You would not see any pilots in this mode - unless you choose to play in it of course. As to "god mode" - it would be no different from Solo or Private Groups - apart from hard coded rules to deal with player/player attacks/damage.

I keep my friends list short - it means that fewer people know where I am - thanks for the offer though!

 

[Dave1235]

you wil find that the majority of combat loggers are players that have played nothing but solo and dont want to lose thier ships in open IMHO

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from my experience player with no experince of PVP are the loggers why ? well they play in solo until they think they are strong enough to head into open and then they think they are invunerable but having no XP of PVP they panic its a direct result of switching lock solo and although it may not prevent all logging it will stop alot of it

Here we go again lock solo to prevent clers in open. Leave solo alone. its an open problem. If you cant live with it /suggest a way to fix it that doesn't involve screwing over other modes maybe it is time to remove open and make the pvpers start their own private groups like the pvers had to.