A solution to the beige planet problem: Planet packs!

So a recurrent thing the community complains about is the fact that a lot of the planets became beige after FDev changed the lighting into a better one. I've been thinking about it for a while and I believe I've come up with the perfect solution: Planet packs!

How would this work? Easy, for a small price (I'll let FDev decide that), you'll get a full range of colours (following tradition, I think 6 would be a fair amount), which will be randomly applied to beige planets. Only you would see the different colours of course, unless your friend bought the pack too (you'd both see the same colour, each planet has a unique seed afaik). The gameplay wouldn't change in any way, if you don't buy the pack you can still land on the planets, dock on bases, gather materials... The change would only be cosmetic.

Now I know some of you may complain that you bought Horizons so you should get the planet pack for free. But you didn't buy the colours, you just bought the planets and FDev delivered. Let's look at Frontier's store:

https://www.frontierstore.net/eur/games/elite-dangerous-cat/elite-dangerous-horizons-dlc.html

Change the galaxy with the Elite Dangerous: Horizons Season Pass. Explore the surfaces of countless worlds today, and unlock new ways to play in five themed expansions.

2.0 – Planetary Landings
Available Now
A whole new angle on the galaxy. Journey from the stars to the surfaces of strange worlds, and hit the ground running in the new Scarab Surface Recon Vehicle.
As you can see, all it says is that you'll be able to land on planets, and you can! I don't see anything about colours there.

I don't see any reason why they shouldn't release these planet packs. More money to develop the game, it's completely optional and as with the other stuff in the store, it's just cosmetic, so it doesn't affect gameplay at all!

Of course, some people will complain (they always do) that planets used to have more colours. Well you see, things change during development. They changed the lighting to a better one, and although some may consider the secondary effect undesireable, a lot of people like it as it is now. You see, in real life most planets (especially rocky planets) are actually beige or brownish, so they actually improved the game by making it more realistic. If you want more colours on planets that's totally fine but that was not a part of Horizons so you shouldn't get it for free. It costs money to program and design that stuff after all.
 
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1) It's not relevant to actual Planetary generation techiniques.
2) It's not something that makes sense from any FD declared point of view about Microtransactions.
3) It's not logical from a Programming point of view.
4) It's not funny- not even in a sarcastic way.
5) It's poor form.

So I rate that post "Facepalm" out of 10

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1) It's not relevant to actual Planetary generation techiniques.
2) It's not something that makes sense from any FD declared point of view about Microtransactions.
3) It's not logical from a Programming point of view.
4) It's not funny- not even in a sarcastic way.
5) It's poor form.

So I rate that post "Facepalm" out of 10

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I love how you threw around a bunch of unconnected points without explaining them further. I presume you don't want FDev to continue developing the game then?

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When Horizons launched we had planets worth visiting now we don't... More a case of 'give us what we had' not 'Lets pay for what we had.'

The only thing that changed was some wacky terrain and the lighting, which accidentally changed the colours. But as I said in the OP, it was actually an improvement, so I don't see why they should change it back for free. Besides, I should remind you that planet colours were never a part of Horizons. I thought you were a reasonable man, and now you're asking for stuff for free?
 
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I love how you threw around a bunch of unconnected points without explaining them further. I presume you don't want FDev to continue developing the game then?

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The only thing that changed was some wacky terrain and the lighting, which accidentally changed the colours. But as I said in the OP, it was actually an improvement, so I don't see why they should change it back for free. Besides, I should remind you that planet colours were never a part of Horizons. I thought you were a reasonable man, and now you're asking for stuff for free?

No I am not asking for free stuff. I am asking to have Horizons as it was purchased not how it has been changed to now. I'm an explorer, haven't been near the bubble this side of Christmas. When almost every system you visit has odd planet lighting in it you know something is wrong. Last night for instance, I jump into a system with a star casting blue/white light. The worlds that could be landed on all had a purple tint to them yet all the planets you cannot land on were nice and brightly coloured - made no sense given the light source.

Frontier have also said they are going to look into this matter but it will not be done for 2.3. Rather than pay for something which has been taken away I would prefer to allow the developers to see what they have done and learn from it and improve the system. If these are the colours that should be seen then make it apply to all worlds because that bright yellow sulphur moon looks stupid in system full of pink/beige worlds.

I'm all for micro transactions as a way of funding but do not agree to pay for something that we used to have - Bait and switch is an ugly term but it applies in this case, all of those video's put out by Frontier to market Horizons showed us a colourful and varied galaxy that I certainly took into account when deciding to pay for the expansion. Selling a pack as you suggest would be an admission of false advertising in my book.
 
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I love how you threw around a bunch of unconnected points without explaining them further. I presume you don't want FDev to continue developing the game then?

Dude. Really? They are unconnected? I honestly thought them to be pretty simple and self explanatory, but you choose to play dumb- I'll dumb it down for ya. For free.

1) The colour is not influenced directly by FD but is the result of Star Forge. It simply makes no sense.
I guess the thing you *might* refer to is that along patches the Star Forge was refined and some glaring oddities corrected.

2) This was really, really simple. To dumb it down further is a bit hard but I think I can manage. FD always promised Microtransaction of Player's bound Vanity items.
A planet's skin pack is not a Player's bound Vanity item. There's nothing here supporting a "Planetary Skinpack".

3) What's the point of removing colours from something already there at programming level only to sell it separately after? It never happened (refer to bold part of point 2 if it's hard to get) at any level in *any* game that I can think of. Why o why would FD do that?!

4) Point four is as simple as it can get. I'm really sorry if I can't explain this further. :( Here's a Sugar glider instead.
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5) You're being insulting towards good developer doing what they promised AND adjusting their behaviour to player base whenever possible.

FD is developing Elite pretty nicely with the actual Microtransactions scheme and Yearly Seasons without even resorting to Monthly Subscription.
Applause.

There,
Ciao.
 
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No I am not asking for free stuff. I am asking to have Horizons as it was purchased not how it has been changed to now. I'm an explorer, haven't been near the bubble this side of Christmas. When almost every system you visit has odd planet lighting in it you know something is wrong. Last night for instance, I jump into a system with a star casting blue/white light. The worlds that could be landed on all had a purple tint to them yet all the planets you cannot land on were nice and brightly coloured - made no sense given the light source.

Frontier have also said they are going to look into this matter but it will not be done for 2.3. Rather than pay for something which has been taken away I would prefer to allow the developers to see what they have done and learn from it and improve the system. If these are the colours that should be seen then make it apply to all worlds because that bright yellow sulphur moon looks stupid in system full of pink/beige worlds.

I'm all for micro transactions as a way of funding but do not agree to pay for something that we used to have - Bait and switch is an ugly term but it applies in this case, all of those video's put out by Frontier to market Horizons showed us a colourful and varied galaxy that I certainly took into account when deciding to pay for the expansion. Selling a pack as you suggest would be an admission of false advertising in my book.

You're forgetting again that Horizons included the planets, not the colours. You paid for the planets and you have the planets, but you shouldn't get something that you didn't pay for for free. It's very nice that you're an explorer and all but to a bubble dweller like me a many others, such matters aren't that important, so I don't see how it'd be fair for FDev to spend my money on something that will be just for you, for free.

FDev said they're looking into the matter yeah but at no moment have they said it'd be free. I really hope they see this thread... The more money they can get, the better the development will be.

You say these cosmetic colours were in the trailers? So what? So are paintjobs, shipkits, suits, etc. I don't see anything wrong with FDev promoting their material for their game in their trailers.

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Dude. Really? They are unconnected? I honestly thought them to be pretty simple and self explanatory, but you choose to play dumb- I'll dumb it down for ya. For free.

1) The colour is not influenced directly by FD but is the result of Star Forge. It simply makes no sense.
I guess the thing you *might* refer to is that along patches the Star Forge was refined and some glaring oddities corrected.

2) This was really, really simple. To dumb it down further is a bit hard but I think I can manage. FD always promised Microtransaction of Player's bound Vanity items.
A planet's skin pack is not a Player's bound Vanity item. There's nothing here supporting a "Planetary Skinpack".

3) What's the point of removing colours from something already there at programming level only to sell it separately after? It never happened (refer to bold part of point 2 if it's hard to get) at any level in *any* game that I can think of. Why o why would FD do that?!

4) Point four is as simple as it can get. I'm really sorry if I can't explain this further. :( Here's a Sugar glider instead. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/29/article-0-0E24132F00000578-982_634x351.jpg

5) You're being insulting towards good developer doing what they promised AND adjusting their behaviour to player base whenever possible.

FD is developing Elite pretty nicely with the actual Microtransactions scheme and Yearly Seasons without even resorting to Monthly Subscription.
Applause.

There,
Ciao.

1- Of course they're not relevant, they're just cosmetic. I'm sure they have smart programmers that would be able to introduce something like this into the game.
2- Where? As far as I know they said "microtransactions for cosmetics". This is just cosmetic.
3- As I said, the way it currently is has been a lucky shot by Frontier, because it is more realistic. It's never happened before you say? But they did it with the DBX already!
4- Of course it's not funny. It's a very serious post. I guess you just don't want FDev to keep developing the game then. Thanks for leaving that clear.
5- What? Suggesting new ways for my favourite developer to be able to keep developing my favourite game is bad?
 
Funny how everyone b!tches about these beige planets whereas what I find is that the further you are from a star, the more colour variation there is. This aligns with what Michael Brookes said about the beigieification being associated with star colour.

But let's keep the moaning and sarcasm flowing, folks. It'll inspire FD to develop this game further and keep us informed throughout.
 
So a recurrent thing the community complains about is the fact that a lot of the planets became beige after FDev changed the lighting into a better one. I've been thinking about it for a while and I believe I've come up with the perfect solution: Planet packs!

How would this work? Easy, for a small price (I'll let FDev decide that), you'll get a full range of colours (following tradition, I think 6 would be a fair amount), which will be randomly applied to beige planets. Only you would see the different colours of course, unless your friend bought the pack too (you'd both see the same colour, each planet has a unique seed afaik). The gameplay wouldn't change in any way, if you don't buy the pack you can still land on the planets, dock on bases, gather materials... The change would only be cosmetic.

Now I know some of you may complain that you bought Horizons so you should get the planet pack for free. But you didn't buy the colours, you just bought the planets and FDev delivered. Let's look at Frontier's store:

https://www.frontierstore.net/eur/games/elite-dangerous-cat/elite-dangerous-horizons-dlc.html


As you can see, all it says is that you'll be able to land on planets, and you can! I don't see anything about colours there.

I don't see any reason why they shouldn't release these planet packs. More money to develop the game, it's completely optional and as with the other stuff in the store, it's just cosmetic, so it doesn't affect gameplay at all!

Of course, some people will complain (they always do) that planets used to have more colours. Well you see, things change during development. They changed the lighting to a better one, and although some may consider the secondary effect undesireable, a lot of people like it as it is now. You see, in real life most planets (especially rocky planets) are actually beige or brownish, so they actually improved the game by making it more realistic. If you want more colours on planets that's totally fine but that was not a part of Horizons so you shouldn't get it for free. It costs money to program and design that stuff after all.

You must be joking, mrs. Vader. :D

Funny how everyone b!tches about these beige planets whereas what I find is that the further you are from a star, the more colour variation there is. This aligns with what Michael Brookes said about the beigieification being associated with star colour.

But let's keep the moaning and sarcasm flowing, folks. It'll inspire FD to develop this game further and keep us informed throughout.

It's Forums. If you start to take things too seriously, you're either lose your mind or your account. :p

Btw. I agree. I do miss the RGB surfaces a little, but I am still able to find places like this:
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(And yes, I am aware of the fact that this is an icy planet so the blue is more prominent, but the rocky world next door wasn't that much different)

It's more realistic that the star is creating colours, rather than planet texture map, imo.
 
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You're forgetting again that Horizons included the planets, not the colours. You paid for the planets and you have the planets, but you shouldn't get something that you didn't pay for for free. It's very nice that you're an explorer and all but to a bubble dweller like me a many others, such matters aren't that important, so I don't see how it'd be fair for FDev to spend my money on something that will be just for you, for free.

FDev said they're looking into the matter yeah but at no moment have they said it'd be free. I really hope they see this thread... The more money they can get, the better the development will be.

You say these cosmetic colours were in the trailers? So what? So are paintjobs, shipkits, suits, etc. I don't see anything wrong with FDev promoting their material for their game in their trailers.

The advertising is quite plain to see. Planets that were used in the video's for Horizons showed variety of colour which is no longer there. They advertised Horizons with the use of colourful planets. Now they are gone - changed to a shade of poop or pink. The advertising did not show this or explain that planets would change in any way in either colour or topography and yet they have.

It is akin to buying a PC advertised with a nvidia 1080 inside but after a few months it suddenly changes to an AMD Fury - Your saying we should now pay for the 1080 despite the product being advertised as including it. No matter how you try to spin this there is no way the community would pay for this.

And once again, just in-case you missed it the first time - Frontier are looking into this so the whole thread is basically arguing a mute point hence I will say no more on the subject except point out you also would like to have stuff for free...

I still think we should get a basic name decal by default.
 
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