A steaming pile of 120 tons of biowaste

amadeus1171

amadeus1171
Is it me? Or does anyone feel this is what we get after each update?

Update 3.whatever should be coming in the near future but I've stopped getting excited for it.

Why? We keep seeing the same silly bugs, the same grinding gameplay, the same rng biowaste, etc. Everybody has spoken out about this malaise in ED but FD doesn't seem to listen.

Bugs, bug, bugs; ED has so many bugs that I stopped asking for them to be fixed anymore. And most are simple bugs. One example is closing the role panel on the crew tab. When you open the role panel again it shows ships but the active tab is still the roll tab. how difficult is it to set the default tab to the ship tab every time you open the roll tab? Do you know how long this bug has been around and has never been fixed?

The grind is real, people. FD seems to think that grinding is valid gameplay. It's not. It's busy work and it drives people nuts. If an engineer needs parts to unlock a blueprint or engineer a part then those blueprints should be available from a quest (not a grind quest), such as seeking out people who know about said blueprints and trying to find the individual or crash site where this blueprint might be available. And these blueprints shouldn't be exclusive. Once it's unlocked it should be available to everyone.

Which brings up another interesting gameplay element that can be implemented in the game. The quest can be a multi-commander quest; much like putting together a puzzle set. As commanders bring back results of their quests, the puzzle starts to fill, and once filled, the blueprint is available for all. And I don't mean the community goal busy work type! Nobody likes that.

Ok, engineers need mats. I get that. But why isn't it available to buy? Surely NPC also scavenge destroyed ships and signal sources. They can see these items to stations where they're available to buy. This could also open up trading oportunities as materials come into demand.

No RNG. That's all I have to say about that. RNG is silly, stupid, and pointless. I guess I had more to say about that.

So what do you guys think? Is this how you feel what you got after every update?
 

amadeus1171

amadeus1171
Factabulous said:
You can always go and, like, play a different game - since you don't seen very happy with this one. I hear star citizen is good, why not try that?
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Why is this the go to response when someone complains about something?! The reason I'm complaining is because I love the game but see that it can be so much more. You don't abandon something because it's imperfect. You complain and work to change it so it gets better.

Stop spewing that nonsense telling people to play other games.
 

Hellfire85

Hellfire85
I am quite happy with what we get with each update, and I'm looking forward to the next updates, specifically the Q4 one :D

It has been said many times before, but nobody in the player base seems to listen either. If you decide to grind, it's your choice, there are many things to do and you don't need to grind for the biggest ship, for the most cash or for the best engineering.

I have 1500h in game, 1000 of it in my Vulture, and the only times it felt "grindy" to me was when I tried exploration.

Also I do PvP, so I went through the whole engineering process, and even then I didn't get annoyed by the grind because I knew it's gonna be worth it.
 

-VR- Max Factor

-VR- Max Factor
Not really no. Most of the updates for me have been okay. Some have been good.

Most of the bugs i don't even notice either they are so minor.

Not too sure it's worth getting your knickers in a twist over to be honest.
 
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Bacalao

Bacalao
Max Factor said:
Not really no. Most of the updates for me have been okay. Some have been good.

Most of the bugs i don't even notice either they are so minor.

Not too sure it's worth getting your knickers in a twist over to be honest.
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You must not be interested in combat missions at all then. The latest I looked at was 250 pirates for 10M credits.....lol.
 

Capt. Hook

Capt. Hook
I remember flying my military drive cobra mk3 over Paris and dumping radioactive waste or such like back in previous iterations of elite. Not exactly biowaste but oh my happy days.
 

-VR- Max Factor

-VR- Max Factor
Bacalao said:
You must not be interested in combat missions at all then. The latest I looked at was 250 pirates for 10M credits.....lol.
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I do very few missions to be honest and then when I do missions I am very picky with the ones I choose.

10 million is also on top of the bounties you get for them. Seems like not a bad deal to me.
 

Uchuu

Uchuu
This IS a bad deal. You need approx 250 days to find that 250 mission targets. The missions are bugged.
 

Eriseley

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I certainly want them to be more effective at fixing things, but I find it hard to hate any current team involved in trying to fix things. I dunno man. I've played thousands of hours into the game now...kinda got my money worth, certainly wish it were better though. I don't have an answer...
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
amadeus1171 said:
Is it me?

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So what do you guys think? Is this how you feel what you got after every update?
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Yes, it is you, you don't like game. Why fret over it? Do you want to find confirmation you are not alone? Yes, you are not. No, not everybody will agree with your POV.

I love where ED is atm. When I play I never face any bugs, any issues, my play sessions are uninterrupted. When I meet players, it is always something enjoyable (I don't see much griefing too).

Disappointed that I don't agree with you? Well, that's life. Have fun with something else :)
 

RymdLazer

RymdLazer
I don't see how chaining missions would make them better. Your suggestions sound like more annoying busywork.
What do you want the game to be? That multicommander quest seems exclusive to wings. You mean progression should be linked with multiplayer? And puzzles?
Also: Everybody, nobody. Speak for yourself or specify who your everybody entails. Because you sure aren't speaking for me or a majority.
 

Eriseley

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RymdLazer said:
I don't see how chaining missions would make them better. Your suggestions sound like more annoying busywork.
What do you want the game to be? That multicommander quest seems exclusive to wings. You mean progression should be linked with multiplayer? And puzzles?
Also: Everybody, nobody. Speak for yourself or specify who your everybody entails. Because you sure aren't speaking for me or a majority.
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Personally I'd do with no chaining missions, but just like if I'm solo no wing missions, and generate x100 the missions and give me filters, so I can assemble a route. But that's just me, hehe.
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
Jaffz said:
Again with the standard go to response. You have no idea how much money he may have invested in the game. Bore off
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He clearly said he didn't enjoy game. It won't suddenly become something he will enjoy. Best way to handle that is do anything else he might enjoy. It is no brainer.
 

Eriseley

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Cmdr Eagleboy said:
He clearly said he didn't enjoy game. It won't suddenly become something he will enjoy. Best way to handle that is do anything else he might enjoy. It is no brainer.
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Though I get what you're about, one problem: not a lot of space games (if that is what one is hankering for). :\

I should say space flight games with combat...probably narrows it down.
 
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VR StarLightPL

VR StarLightPL
Opinion: Over the years I have slowly come to the realisation why the community here seems to be fine with all shortcomings OP listed. It is the age bracket of players. We're much older than average playerbase of any modern game. Due to IRL obligations we play in short bursts, I believe the word is... casually. Sorry but that's what it is. As such, probably not many of these people are serious gamers with vast game libraries, so they cling to this one title like their oxygen support type escape from their daily lives. In my generation gaming was considered as something for kids and "as a grown up" you were expected to drop the habit (interestingly enough you were expected to at least pick up drinking, lol). And with my 40 years I am often considered a youngster here! Anyhow either these people have no gaming experience, or there is the sunk cost fallacy at play, where many of them build their PCs and custom cockpits just to play Elite. There is also a third option, that many of them simply enjoy relaxing monotonous experience which doesn't engage the brain very much, to give them rest after a hard day of work... or an average pensioner day where time is slow anyway, so they like their game slow, too. I think Frontier also sees these tendencies and that's why it is so reluctant to change anything. You don't root an old tree as they say...

Again, that's an opinion, which might be right, might be wrong... but it's mine.
 
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