It's strange how segisaurus is not in JWE2 seeing that all the other dinosaurs on the Jurassic Park brochure made it into the game.
A strange exclusion from JWE2
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It's not that strange at all when you consider this is soft canon at best... the "adult" Dilophosaurus is more canon than Segisaurus, and it's not canon anymore.
Wasn't this map also on the JP brochure? That was used in the film wasn't it?
Edit: Ah yes, it is on the brochure and does seem to be in the film. So that makes all the species on here canon.
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A visitor’s brochure from Steven Spielberg’s Oscar®-winning action adventure Jurassic Park. The park’s brochures were used throughout the film at various
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Yeah, and like every other prop we never get a good look at on screen, the only way you'd know it was in the film was someone showing it in a non-canon form... like posting a picture of it on the internet... which, again, makes it soft canon at best.Wasn't this map also on the JP brochure? That was used in the film wasn't it?
Edit: Ah yes, it is on the brochure and does seem to be in the film. So that makes all the species on here canon.
Jurassic Park - Park Brochure - HeroProp.com
A visitor’s brochure from Steven Spielberg’s Oscar®-winning action adventure Jurassic Park. The park’s brochures were used throughout the film at various
Which means they can casually ignore it if they so choose... which they have done before with more canonical obvious sources (again, like the "adult" Dilophosaurus) and soft canon material (the Hadrosaurus skeleton in The Lost World is now an Edmontosaurus; there were no "Corinthosaurus" on Isla Sorna in 1997), which makes the lack of Segisaurus--an animal linked to the series entirely by having its name mentioned in a soft canon source--completely unsurprising.
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Well even if it is soft canon Proceratosaurus, Metriacanthosaurus, and Herrerasaurus are in the game.
Proceratosaurus and Metriacanthosaurus both have their names listed on the embryo holding... thing... I don't recall what it's called. It's very apparent and very clearly canon... as is the misspelled "Stegasaurus".
Herrerasaurus is one of the most well-known and popular Triassic Period dinosaurs... it would have likely been added even if it were completely non canon.
Segisaurus is another one of those random, out of nowhere names the movie writers seem oddly obsessed with... it's easily described as "a Coelophysis, but slightly smaller"... which may explain why Coelophysis is available in the Jurassic Park Chaos Theory mission; it's the Segisaurus stand-in. Honestly, it would be a real waste of space prioritizing something so obviously unremarkable on the grounds that it is so vaguely canon.
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In the cannon Segisaurus and Herrerasaurus are in the cold storage room and Segisaurus was on InGen's list too
and I would like some more tiny dinosaurs since we just got new tiny dinosaur behavior.
Frontier can differentiate dinosaurs pretty well too since we have Struthiomimus, Archaeornithomimus, and Gallimimus and people are still requesting similar Ornithomimosaurs.
I don't recall the Segisaurus (or Herrerasaurus for that matter) appearing in the Cold Storage scene... and my efforts to review the scene support my memory. Once again, anything that isn't shown on screen is soft canon at best and entirely up to the writers if it becomes anything more or cut off am abandoned.
And so would I... that's not the issue. There are many great little animals of the Mesozoic... I know, I'm the kind of person who could make a whole list of them from memory... and there's a whole lot of them that offer up a whole lot of unique potential... far more than "it's a Coelophysis, but smaller" ever could.
But here we are, seriously debating over the inclusion of an obscure, unremarkable genus all because it is ever so slightly more canon than far more interesting options... and yet, somehow that makes it an absolutely essential addition in the eyes of certain people. I'm curious... would people like you be trying this hard to get Segisaurus into the game if some offscreen element didn't make a reference to its name?
They could make Segisaurus stand out when compared to the game's other similarly sized theropods (Compsognathus, Moros & Oviraptor) by giving it a unique visual feature similar to Dilophosaurus, such as a cobra hood similar to the illustration down below:
Besides, considering how Frontier have added all of the other species planned to be in Jurassic Park (including from the TellTale game), they might as well include Segisaurus.
All this tells me is you don't really want or care about Segisaurus... you just want some fake thing with the name Segisaurus tacked on... in which case, why not just ask for another hybrid?They could make Segisaurus stand out when compared to the game's other similarly sized theropods (Compsognathus, Moros & Oviraptor) by giving it a unique visual feature similar to Dilophosaurus, such as a cobra hood similar to the illustration down below:
Besides, considering how Frontier have added all of the other species planned to be in Jurassic Park (including from the TellTale game), they might as well include Segisaurus.
Whilst originally with the previous game, Segisaurus was not high on my list of dinosaurs I would like to have seen added to the game, my opinion changed with the additions of both the Carnivore Pack and the Return to Jurassic Park expansion. These two DLC's saw the inclusion of four species that were planned to be exhibited for Jurassic Park; Herrerasaurus, Proceratosaurus, Compsognathus & Pteranodon.
With the addition of Metriacanthosaurus in the base game, Baryonyx from the Fallen Kingdom update and Troodon from the Secrets of Dr. Wu expansion, Segisaurus was the only dinosaur from the park brochure not in the game. Its absence has only become more and more noticeable and the concerns/requests for the small Jurassic carnivore have become more valid.
And I see no harm in making what would otherwise be visually similar dinosaurs in reality more visually distinctive. Frontier has already done this multiple times with various other species such as the dromaeosaurids and carcharodontosaurids.
On the topic of hybrids, it would be good to see the return of the three hybrids from the Secrets of Dr. Wu and Spinoceratops from Camp Cretaceous.
This is something that I really need to ask as it’s been brought up quite a few times by those who are opposed to having it added, on what basis is Segisaurus a non-canon animal in the Jurassic franchise?
It’s featured in a prominent on-screen prop alongside twelve other dinosaurs that have all been featured either in films, extended media and merchandise. So, why not have Segisaurus be included and complete the originally planned bestiary for Jurassic Park?