Account locked for breaking terms and conditions.
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Yes, OP shouldn't go public in the first place cos giving second chance in front of the public sends bad message and encourage rules breaking......
My vote for giving him second chance is solely since ED is free on Epic and OP being honest while showing regret.
Anyway i hope FD will reconsider, delete this thread and in silence give him second chance!
If soo, OP keep it for yourself!
Yeah, I did consider going to play a different game but there just isn't anything that seems to offer the same, other than possibly Star Citizen, which is still in Alpha and would cost even more money for me to get into. I have only played Elite Dangerous for the past 6-7 years. I don't play anything else. I normally play for most of the day, most days.
I am still enjoying playing. I do have a bitter taste in my mouth from all this and I can't say I'm really happy to have to re-grind for everything again but I'm sure that will pass.
Yep, it is.
Also, all those folks sharing accounts for their factions should have those shared accounts shut down too. And if FD find out about it, I expect they will.
David Braben -hates- "piracy"
With a passion, and always has. He used that mad lens lock anti piracy thing for the original elite, and has always talked loudly in public about how bad piracy is.
I suspect it's one of the reasons the offline mode doesn't exist (there are other reasons too, but I'm sure it helped)
This to FD, looks like piracy basically, allowing others to play the game without paying.
Cheating doesn't really change the fact the cheater has paid them for the game - it may have a small indirect effect of annoying other customers, but that's a PR thing more than anything.
So, yeah, this all makes perfect sense and I'm still utterly bamboozled that you'd have "lent out" your LEP account... with all that money spent on it.
I wudda jus bought the guy a version of the game for a fiver, or got it for literally free from one of the many bundles it's been in (gonna be free on Epic soon too)
I do feel for you, really really badly, if I lost my LEP account I would be massively annoyed.
But at the same time, it's 100% your fault, and I'm still unsure how you thought account sharing was "ok"
Even all the stuff about other people doing it - did it really, truly, if you are honest, seem ok when that was going on?
If yes, well... ok then.
I know, it was my fault. I honestly had no idea it was not okay though. The way everyone else I knew was sharing accounts for years, I know now that they shouldn't have been but at the time it didn't even cross my mind that we were doing anything even slightly wrong. We weren't taking money out of Frontiers pocket, the accounts were bought with the explicit purpose of being used to help our factions BGS. If we hadn't bought them it wouldn't mean that someone else would need to buy one. The people who used the accounts already had their own accounts and were part of the factions. With what I did here I didn't take any money from Frontiers pocket either, my friend who used my account already has his own account, he just doesn't have many credits or anything and wanted to check out the fleet carrier when it came out, which he didn't have the in game credits to do. I was away for an extended period and my account wasn't being used so I said he may as well use it, that was all.
I disagree with their decision and would not have gone down this road. To lock out a LEP holder who has put a lot of money into the game seems wrong somehow, even if it violates the TOS. I'm surprised you're still playing now. My displeasure about the decision would outweigh my desire to play the game. In your original post you do go on about others sharing account etc. I didn't read it in detail because I don't much care, but I'd gather all the evidence and either get them locked out as well, or more likely use that as evidence and engage a lawyer - the money aspect is quite a bit, and if you can show the TOS rules are being applied unfairly I;d say you have a case. Anyway, seems wrong. Everyone makes mistakes, and honesty counts for a lot.
I've not read the terms and conditions. Or service whstever. Who does?
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I do know you don't share your/their account with anyone not even my partner. Not a wingmate not a friend. Knowone.
It's been this way since dot. all this gumph rules etc that was long ago. The reasons are obvious and yeah Op was apparently naively legit. But he may not have been and all hell could have broke loose.
So my advice would be to approach em 1 year from suspension and see if they've relented a tad.
And in the meantime do absolutely nothing to antagonise em
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I do know you don't share your/their account with anyone not even my partner. Not a wingmate not a friend. Knowone.
It's been this way since dot. all this gumph rules etc that was long ago. The reasons are obvious and yeah Op was apparently naively legit. But he may not have been and all hell could have broke loose.
So my advice would be to approach em 1 year from suspension and see if they've relented a tad.
And in the meantime do absolutely nothing to antagonise em
"Everyone is doing it, so why not me?" .... where have I heard that one before ?
If I were FD, I'd let this post run ... with the OP singing like a canary they will be checking commander accounts who have interacted with the OP now ... and one is an alleged moderator? Well that helps them a lot.
Trouble is, with posts like these, everyone starts suspecting everyone else .....
If I were FD, I'd let this post run ... with the OP singing like a canary they will be checking commander accounts who have interacted with the OP now ... and one is an alleged moderator? Well that helps them a lot.
Trouble is, with posts like these, everyone starts suspecting everyone else .....
Nobody is saying that. From what I have said it's more like everyone was doing it so I had no reason to suspect there was anything wrong with it. Now I know that there is. I'm not saying "why can't I get away with it", I owned up and apologised and am taking the punishment. I just feel that the punishment is a bit unfair considering the situation.
As for people saying it's common knowledge that you can't share game accounts - not to me it isn't. I'm not a gamer in general, my only real gaming experience is with this game, other than years ago when I had the odd game of Quake or Counter Strike and back then those games came on CD's, there was no online accounts. The only game I play now is Elite Dangerous.
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It's a bit like when you break the law - say parking or speeding ticket - telling the officer "I didn't know" isn't going to avoid punishment. I learned this the hard way myself...
Great example ObiW and I totally agree. I now know I broke the rules and am not disputing that I should have some sort of punishment for that. I just feel that the punishment I have been dealt doesn't fit the crime. It's like if you got a parking ticket in real life and the punishment was that you lost your home.
This is Elite; parking tickets attract a lethal response...
Now that's funny!
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Believe me, I got a couple of parking tickets that were both over 100 bucks each... took me a while to digest those but not much else I could do (neither was particularly bad like blocking a fire exit or something). But shouldn't have parked there etc. etc. Best to forget about the damage and move on, sunk cost and all that.
With a CD, the game can be copied, with DRM ED cannot, the account can only be used by one person at a time, like lending my car to a friend - I cannot use it while they are using it.
So in the situation where the intention is to permanently transfer an account to someone else (eg gold farming) I can sort of understand FDev's anti-piracy stance here, in the case of letting a friend use it while the owner is unable to it's not so easy for me to see how FDev lose out.
I agree it seems excessive, but presumably is within the scope of what FDev can do. I guess they get lots of similar looking situations where accounts are sold on ebay or whatever.
I've had one myself, learned my lesson the first time! A hundred bucks though seems a fairly appropriate fine though in comparison. I mean how long does it take you to earn a hundred bucks? Hopefully not 6-7 years! How much would you earn in 6-7 years? ..and how would you feel if the parking fine was that amount? That's what I mean, it just seems way over the top punishment for what I did.
I am astonished that your other game companions didn't say, "you can do this, but be careful, because it's against the rules." This implies large numbers of players are doing it, without knowing it is wrong ! So, I guess FD have used you as an example to others.
There have been a lot of complaints that the BGS was being manipulated by phantom ships, or robot ships, but from what you say, it's probably shared accounts .... of which there will only be more when the Epic free accounts emerge.
I have to say, OP, that you've presented this in a very mature, balanced way. For this forum it's exceptional. It's fair to say that most contributors would have created a rage quit post. Credit to you 
Huh. I didn't know the user you lent it to already had an account.
Kind of changes my thoughts a bit - however, it did give them access to cosmetics I guess... dunno if that should really matter though.
Thank you. I did try to keep it off the forums altogether but Frontier wouldn't engage in any kind of conversation so this was the only outlet I had to discuss the issue.I have to say, OP, that you've presented this in a very mature, balanced way. For this forum it's exceptional. It's fair to say that most contributors would have created a rage quit post. Credit to you
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