Accurate Dilophosaur Variant

captbossalf · Aug 24, 2023

(this is my first thread on this forum so sorry if its bad)

Hey! I am proposing a new body variant for Dilophosaurus. As you may or may not know, Dilophosaurus is very different in the movie than to real-life. A real Dilophosaur is 3 Meters Tall and 7 Meters in Length, and it weighs almost 900 Pounds. So I think it just might be different enough for a body variant. I think it would be a really cool thing to have in the game!

Ceratosaurus · Aug 26, 2023

I don't understand why everyone is wanting "accuracy" when none of the Dinosaurs within Jurassic Park/World are accurate because of their incomplete genetic codes. It's a major part of the story...

I'd be better if we just got Jurassic park Novel variants added to the game instead.

captbossalf · Aug 26, 2023

DuskyHaddock said:
I don't understand why everyone is wanting "accuracy" when none of the Dinosaurs within Jurassic Park/World are accurate because of their incomplete genetic codes. It's a major part of the story...

I'd be better if we just got Jurassic park Novel variants added to the game instead.

That is a very good point, but with the dilophosaur SURELY the incomplete genomes can make it tiny, have a frill and spit Poison. So if we are putting this into story terms, BioSyn realises the Dilophosaur genomes they got from Jurassic Park are altered alot to make them more appealing to guests, they want to make an accurate Dilophosaur.

I know my made up idea for a story around accurate Dilophosaurs is irrelevant seen as its just some random story, but there are entire dinosaurs outside of the Jurassic Franchise that are in the game so I think this would be alright.

Ceratosaurus · Aug 26, 2023

captbossalf said:
BioSyn realises the Dilophosaur genomes they got from Jurassic Park are altered alot to make them more appealing to guests, they want to make an accurate Dilophosaur.

We Jurassic fans don't talk about Dominion xD
Dominion could've been so much more...

I'll agree on your part that things were supposed to be accurate with Biosyn, but I think the Dilos they've got were just InGen captures from Isla Nublar or Isla Sorna sourced through Mantah Corp back before they started their own DNA research/extraction, if they even intended on improving the Dilo DNA sequence as they were probably more focused on their own exclusive species such as the Moros and the Dimetrodon.

That's the problem with the Jurassic franchise, there's so much information and so many events between and before the movies that don't actually get processed/explained to the viewers and fans. It's about time we start to get some spin-off movies/TV shows to expand the Jurassic storyline.

Paleoguy · Aug 30, 2023

Vanguard 1998 · Aug 31, 2023

captbossalf said:
Hey! I am proposing a new body variant for Dilophosaurus. As you may or may not know, Dilophosaurus is very different in the movie than to real-life. A real Dilophosaur is 3 Meters Tall and 7 Meters in Length, and it weighs almost 900 Pounds. So I think it just might be different enough for a body variant. I think it would be a really cool thing to have in the game!

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That is a good idea to be honest. It would help make the game more realistic.
Another option is to add another species from the Dilophosauridae or one of its relatives that is around that size. Some species that might work:
Sinosaurus, An extinct genus of theropod dinosaur found at the Lufeng Formation, in the Yunnan Province of China which lived during the Early Jurassic Period. Sinosaurus is the only "dilophosaurid" known from a complete braincase. Sinosaurus comes from Sinae, the Latin word for the Chinese, and the Greek word sauros (σαυρος) meaning "lizard"; thus "Chinese lizard". The specific name, triassicus, refers to the Triassic, the period that the fossils were originally thought to date from.

Zupaysaurus, An extinct genus of early theropod dinosaur living during the Late Triassic in what is now Argentina. Fossils of the dinosaur were found in the Los Colorados Formation of the Ischigualasto-Villa Unión Basin in northwestern Argentina. It is known as the earliest known tetanuran theropod due to several features of its skull, dentition, and hindlimb. It was thought to be a coelophysoid in early studies; but later research found it was Dilophosaurid or a sister taxon to a clade containing dilophosaurids, ceratosaurs and tetanurans. The name Zupaysaurus is composed of the Quechua word supay meaning "devil" and the Greek word sauros (σαυρος) meaning "lizard"; thus "devil lizard". In Incan mythology, supay was both the god of death and ruler of the ukhu pacha, the Incan underworld.

VSSEMike · Aug 31, 2023

How should I proceed with this?

Here is how it goes:

In Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis, we see Dilophosaurus display its frill before spitting venom at close quarters instantly killing goats, beef cattle, and small herbivorous dinosaurs.

In Jurassic World: Evolution 1 and 2; we do not see the Dilophosaurus spitting venom at their prey.

In Jurassic World: Evolution 1, we see Dilophosaurus spit venom when fighting another dinosaur.

In Jurassic World: Evolution 2, Isaac Clement said, "This dinosaur, the Dilophosaurus, has a distinctive neck frill it can expand when it senses danger. It's also been known to spit into the eyes of its prey, blinding it before it goes in for the kill".

Ceratosaurus · Sep 2, 2023

Vanguard 1998 said:
It would help make the game more realistic

But, the Jurassic franchise is not supposed to be realistic... lmao

RazzJinko001 · Sep 4, 2023

DuskyHaddock said:
I don't understand why everyone is wanting "accuracy" when none of the Dinosaurs within Jurassic Park/World are accurate because of their incomplete genetic codes. It's a major part of the story...

I'd be better if we just got Jurassic park Novel variants added to the game instead.

Here are many Dinosaur lovers and it´s just normal want to see this fantastic animals accurate. Jurassic Park Animals are sometimes to much fiction and has to much kaiju stuff.

And the alternative Games with good graphics, animations and Sandbox gameplays are very rare. Console Players just have JWE2...

Northpin · Sep 4, 2023

DuskyHaddock said:
But, the Jurassic franchise is not supposed to be realistic... lmao

basically this.

JW franchise is based on the movie franchise with the same name owned by Universal Pictures.
Which franchise took a certain number of liberties related to dinos looks and behaviours

In other words, JWE it's not supposed to be Paleo-accurate, it supposed to be based on the UP owned movie franchise - where all creatures had their genome reconstructed with additions from various living creatures

Ceratosaurus · Sep 9, 2023

Northpin said:
basically this.

JW franchise is based on the movie franchise with the same name owned by Universal Pictures.
Which franchise took a certain number of liberties related to dinos looks and behaviours

In other words, JWE it's not supposed to be Paleo-accurate, it supposed to be based on the UP owned movie franchise - where all creatures had their genome reconstructed with additions from various living creatures

Exactly, people who complain about Jurassic Park/World is inaccurate just need to chill, not everything has to appeal to their wants. If they want accuracy they can watch a documentary or they can play something else...

I genuinely don't understand the hate people give the movies just because something is "slightly off" with how a Dinosaur looks then completely throws out/cancels the movie because of it... then they call us Jurassic fanboys/girls if we defend it!
To be quite frank, if people can't respect the work of fiction then they shouldn't watch/play it, etc. Just stay away from the franchise, Simple as that...

VSSEMike · Sep 9, 2023

DuskyHaddock said:
Exactly, people who complain about Jurassic Park/World is inaccurate just need to chill, not everything has to appeal to their wants. If they want accuracy they can watch a documentary or they can play something else...

I genuinely don't understand the hate people give the movies just because something is "slightly off" with how a Dinosaur looks then completely throws out/cancels the movie because of it... then they call us Jurassic fanboys/girls if we defend it!
To be quite frank, if people can't respect the work of fiction then they shouldn't watch/play it, etc. Just stay away from the franchise, Simple as that...

I have no issue with the Dilophosaurus in the Jurassic Park franchise. Just so you know, the way Dilophosaurus is depicted in ARK: Survival Evolved is similar to the ones in the Jurassic Park franchise as in displaying its frill before spitting blinding venom.

In Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis, Dilophosaurus can cohabit with Velociraptor.

Now in Jurassic World: Evolution 1 & 2, it does not matter whether Dilophosaurus can cohabit with Velociraptor or not. Putting these two dinosaurs together is only in Jurassic World: Evolution 2's Sandbox gameplay under the settings of "All Likes" and "None" when it comes to Combat Frequency.

From Jurassic World: Dominion, the Therizinosaurus is depicted as the most hateful of all the herbivore species and we have to respect Frontier's wishes. However, seeing the Therizinosaurus liking scavengers does not sit right with me. Putting Therizinosaurus with scavengers will cause the deduction of authenticity points.

Vanguard 1998 · Sep 9, 2023

DuskyHaddock said:
Exactly, people who complain about Jurassic Park/World is inaccurate just need to chill, not everything has to appeal to their wants. If they want accuracy they can watch a documentary or they can play something else...

I genuinely don't understand the hate people give the movies just because something is "slightly off" with how a Dinosaur looks then completely throws out/cancels the movie because of it... then they call us Jurassic fanboys/girls if we defend it!
To be quite frank, if people can't respect the work of fiction then they shouldn't watch/play it, etc. Just stay away from the franchise, Simple as that...

I get that, but you forgot something important on your last point; there are not any other games like this available for gaming consoles. Prehistoric kingdom has openly stated in their posts that they have no intention on making the game available for gaming consoles, which to my knowledge is the only game similar that is readily available at this point in time. From where I'm standing both sides arguments have their merits. Also, if you don't want Dilophosaurus to be realistic, that is your opinion, but what is wrong with adding a few new species into the game that were not in films. Zupaysaurus evolutionary position in regards to where it fits is still being debated and researchers don't know exactly what it looked like, which would allow the game's developers to be very creative when deciding what should it looks like.

Gondrasia · Sep 10, 2023

Dracovenator could be a decent option for a more accurate depiction of Dilophosaurus and it would also give Frontier leeway to give it a larger pair of crests.

Paleoguy · Sep 11, 2023

Pixelated Sparkster · Nov 20, 2023

Dilophosaurus has so much potential for a variant, the Novel description as well as modern reconstructions of the animal provides plenty of material to work with.

My only concern is that it is a variant that if implemented, would not be based on any recent visual media (be it show or movie). All variants introduced so far are for animals that would either have a different look in recent media, or never even got their debut when Jurassic World Evolution came out.

I would love to at least see a larger version of Dilophosaurus, especially with how many Jurassic Park media outside of the first movie supports that this animal could grow to be 20ft (6 meters). The indominous rex is an animal that only reached 40ft in Jurassic World and we got a size closer to a fully grown specimen in JWE 1+2 at 50ft, so it could be fun to at least house a variant that is fully grown. Would be great for parks based on the first movie + Novel.