Add PSR B1620-26 system

[Wyrm MK1]

PSR B1620−26 is a binary star system located at a distance of 3,800 parsecs (12,400 light-years) in the globular cluster of Messier 4 (M4, NGC 6121) in the constellation of Scorpius.[2][3][4] The system is composed of a pulsar (PSR B1620−26 A) and a white dwarf star (WD B1620−26, or PSR B1620−26 B). As of 2000, the system is also confirmed to have an exoplanet orbiting the two stars.

This exoplanet is estimated to be around 13 billion years old, it is considered the oldest planet in existence, not only surviving the supernova of its star but also the formation of a white dwarf. I feel it would be quite interesting to see this unique system added to the game.

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

The way the stellar forge works, Frontier cannot just "add" systems. We will never see any significant real world systems being added, because the galaxy is created through procedural generation, based on mass distribution, I think. There are other experts who can explain it much better. The long and short is: This cannot be done.

We've been lucky with systems like Trappist-1, which already existed in the Stellar Forge at almost the right posistion with the right mass distribution. But just adding systems doesn't work. Elite's galaxy is a 1:1 representation, but not a 1:1 model of the Milky Way.

 

[Wyrm MK1]

The way the stellar forge works, Frontier cannot just "add" systems. We will never see any significant real world systems being added, because the galaxy is created through procedural generation, based on mass distribution, I think. There are other experts who can explain it much better. The long and short is: This cannot be done.

We've been lucky with systems like Trappist-1, which already existed in the Stellar Forge at almost the right posistion with the right mass distribution. But just adding systems doesn't work. Elite's galaxy is a 1:1 representation, but not a 1:1 model of the Milky Way.

well that's unfortunate but i appreciate the explanation

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

well that's unfortunate but i appreciate the explanation

I admit it's not the best explanation, but I do my best . If you're interested in how the galaxy is created in more detail, this is an interesting watch:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz3nhCykZNw


Also, concerning Trappist-1, this might be interesting too:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxcAb5NLi-s

 

[galahad2069]

PSR B1620−26 is a binary star system located at a distance of 3,800 parsecs (12,400 light-years) in the globular cluster of Messier 4 (M4, NGC 6121) in the constellation of Scorpius.[2][3][4] The system is composed of a pulsar (PSR B1620−26 A) and a white dwarf star (WD B1620−26, or PSR B1620−26 B). As of 2000, the system is also confirmed to have an exoplanet orbiting the two stars.

This exoplanet is estimated to be around 13 billion years old, it is considered the oldest planet in existence, not only surviving the supernova of its star but also the formation of a white dwarf. I feel it would be quite interesting to see this unique system added to the game.

As per your post, it's in a globular cluster. Most globular clusters are way outside of the galactic plane.

There are no globular clusters in ED afaik.

 

[g0oglyeyes]

On a similar vein, I do wish they would revisit some notable discrepancies in astronomical data. The Elite version of Sagittarius A* is a measly half million solar masses, while in real life it was known to be as much as 9 times that even before Elite Dangerous was officially released (4.2 - 4.5 million solar masses). This shouldn't take more effort than changing the number on the datasheet in-game.

 

[Helmut Grokenberger]

This shouldn't take more effort than changing the number on the datasheet in-game.

There is no "number on the datasheet". Again: Everything is procedurally generated based on mass distribution, and the galaxy is a 1:1 representation in size and composition, but not a 1:1 clone of the Milky Way.

 

[g0oglyeyes]

There is no "number on the datasheet". Again: Everything is procedurally generated based on mass distribution, and the galaxy is a 1:1 representation in size and composition, but not a 1:1 clone of the Milky Way.

So you're saying the astronomical data in the system information reflects what the game reads it as for the purposes of procedural generation in Stellar Forge. That means they undermassed Sag A* by design? I wonder why. Would it be to account for the unobservable dark matter in the galaxy for the purposes of correcting galactic rotation?

 

[varonica]

So you're saying the astronomical data in the system information reflects what the game reads it as for the purposes of procedural generation in Stellar Forge. That means they undermassed Sag A* by design? I wonder why. Would it be to account for the unobservable dark matter in the galaxy for the purposes of correcting galactic rotation?

The galaxy doesn't rotate, it's a snapshot of the galaxy at one moment in time, this is why nebula look the same from across the galaxy as they do right next to it! Time doesn't pass for the galaxy itself, and the galaxy doesn't rotate, and star systems don't move in relation to each other, so no, that wasn't it.

Reinhard Genzel and Andrea Ghez were awarded the 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics for their discovery that Sagittarius A* is a supermassive compact object, for which a black hole was the only plausible explanation at the time.

See that, 2020, 4 years ago, the ED galaxy was created over ten years ago using the best data available at the time so it's no wonder some of the details are outdated and will continue to outdate as more research is conducted, but the fact is due to the way the galaxy was and is generated they can't go back and make changes that affect the mass distribution of the galaxy model, they have made that quite clear numerous times in the past!