Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

[rizal72]

Using that logic, how do you explain the Guardian Glyph and Sign Language? If it is how you say, Guardian Sign language should be the same as Human.




I have yet to see an Organic who can withstand human cannons, miniguns, and explosives. If anything, our weapons should shred them. Even with body armor, it will fail after enough bullets hit it. Perhaps we should do what most people do for insects and poison them, or light them on fire, or make big magnifying glasses for our ships!

The Guardians came later: 50 and more people hired later by FD...
What I'm saying is just that the use of morse was a first attempt from FD to make a riddle for us player to solve, for us to be able to solve. If you've seen all the story unfold, like me, the riddles became more and more hard with time. Mine is not an in-game explaination, is just a Real life one, where FD learned together with us players, and their puzzles evolved with time.

As I said, binary could have been a better choice, but, you see, it took one year for us to solve the Morse riddle, it was the first one, perhaps Binary was too hard for a first puzzle. However, everything is still on the table, yet.

I do not have a clear opinion, apart from the fact that UA, UP and Barnacles are part of the same plan, and are indeed of Thargoid origin.
The rest is just brainstorming.

 

[Râgnôs]

If I recall meta-alloys degrade into normal alloys if melted. That would generally mean thermal weapons would be effective depending on melting points.
Thermal shock weapons might be truly devastating given our knowledge on their biology.

The problem is is that we don't know how the meta-alloys have been incorporated into their armour, Palin seems to be uncovering a way we can but that doesn't mean that's how they did it.

I wonder how many times that Farragut above Palin needs to be driven off before they get the message. Maybe if it keeps happening the Thargoids will start eating more of them.

 

[LordZoltan]

The Guardians came later: 50 and more people hired later by FD...
What I'm saying is just that the use of morse was a first attempt from FD to make a riddle for us player to solve, for us to be able to solve. If you've seen all the story unfold, like me, the riddles became more and more hard with time. Mine is not an in-game explaination, is just a Real life one, where FD learned together with us players, and their puzzles evolved with time.

As I said, binary could have been a better choice, but, you see, it took one year for us to solve the Morse riddle, it was the first one, perhaps Binary was too hard for a first puzzle. However, everything is still on the table, yet.

I do not have an opinion, apart from the fact that UA, UP and Barnacles are part of the same plan, and are indeed Thargoid.

Yup, and I won't dismiss your perspective out of hand, that's for sure - I'll try to keep coming at this from as many points of view as possible, even if I have a favoured interpretation.

 

[Thatchinho]

2 things:

Any thoughts on the FDN designation on the destroyed capship?

Did anyone ever work out what the distance measure used by the UA/UP was, and were any conclusions ever drawn from it?

 

[Starke Hathaway]

The Guardians came later: 50 and more people hired later by FD...
What I'm saying is just that the use of morse was a first attempt from FD to make a riddle for us player to solve, for us to be able to solve. If you've seen all the story unfold, like me, the riddles became more and more hard with time. Mine is not an in-game explaination, is just a Real life one, where FD learned together with us players, and their puzzles evolved with time.

As I said, binary could have been a better choice, but, you see, it took one year for us to solve the Morse riddle, it was the first one, perhaps Binary was too hard for a first puzzle. However, everything is still on the table, yet.

I do not have an opinion, apart from the fact that UA, UP and Barnacles are part of the same plan, and are indeed Thargoid.

The problem with this explanation of the Morse isn't that it's a bad idea or that it doesn't make sense. The problem is that it directly contradicts what MB has said about it. Let's review.

MB replies to a post by RedWizzard, which itself quotes a post by Thatchinho reading in relevant part:

Given the fact that the UAs send message using morse code there are only 3 basic possibilities:
1. ...
2. ...
3. The use of morse was purely something that FD used as part of a puzzle and they didn't think through what the implications of it were for the subject of the puzzle and the ongoing plot of the game

To this RedWizzard replies:

Option 3 has not been confirmed, but I think it's the most likely explanation from a meta point of view.

And in response to RedWizzard MB writes:

The use of morse is deliberate.

So, unless MB flagrantly lied here it cannot be the case that the devs used Morse just to make the puzzle easier to solve. We're meant to interpret the fact that the UAs use Morse code as relevant in-universe information rather than as a meta "it was easy" explanation.

 

[CMDRTHEDUCKSTER369]

Has anyone tried firing at the barnacles with a mining laser ?

 

[rizal72]

Yup, and I won't dismiss your perspective out of hand, that's for sure - I'll try to keep coming at this from as many points of view as possible, even if I have a favoured interpretation.

And that's always been our way to do Science

 

[Distant]

Not sure if this is the place for this, but I found a second signal at the HIP 17044 site...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-hKaYoI6zw

Around the 2 minute mark.

Is there anything to that signal that repeats every 5 minutes.

Again, sorry if this is the wrong place for this!

 

[Thatchinho]

Yup, and I won't dismiss your perspective out of hand, that's for sure - I'll try to keep coming at this from as many points of view as possible, even if I have a favoured interpretation.

+rep

And that's always been our way to do Science

and +rep

 

[Keybuk]

Any thoughts on the FDN designation on the destroyed capship?

Every single Farragut-class Battlecruiser has this designation on the side.

 

[Saool]

⇩ Guardian style triangles in the background.

I'm not convinced about 'Guardian style'. They are triangles. The Guardians did not have a monopoly on that particular geometric shape.

After-all, go to any one of your ships holographic screens. Look at the shapes in them before they coalesce into text and boxes: Triangles. Yet I do not see people speculating they our technology is based on Guardian technology because both have triangles... somewhere.


A good break down however, but you have to take a virtual +1.

 

[Saool]

With regards to the Mycoid virus and the cure. Given that the events of Frontier first Encounters appear to have been retconned, I'm of half a mind the Mycoid and the cure may still be a thing, but perhaps in our future, not our past. And it is the the Alliance may create the Mycoid virus, or cure or both, in the coming months/years.

 

[rizal72]

The problem with this explanation of the Morse isn't that it's a bad idea or that it doesn't make sense. The problem is that it directly contradicts what MB has said about it. Let's review.

MB replies to a post by RedWizzard, which itself quotes a post by Thatchinho reading in relevant part:



To this RedWizzard replies:



And in response to RedWizzard MB writes:



So, unless MB flagrantly lied here it cannot be the case that the devs used Morse just to make the puzzle easier to solve. We're meant to interpret the fact that the UAs use Morse code as relevant in-universe information rather than as a meta "it was easy" explanation.

You're absolutely right on this. Possible interpretations:

1) UA is of human origin (and LordZoltan is conspiring with Feds)
2) UA is Thargoid but they've learned blink code during first war, and they liked it...
3) UA is Thargoid, its transmission is not (?!)
4) Morse was deliberate from FD, not from Thargoids or humans
5) FD are all Thargoids
6) Michael Brookes is Cthulhu's heir
7) I am wrong
8) I am Thargoid
9) both

 

[Thatchinho]

Every single Farragut-class Battlecruiser has this designation on the side.

Ah, fair enough. Thought someone had said they normally have FNS.

 

[AdmlAdama]

Canonn Science and Research has identified the remnants of what seems to be a classified federation transmission from the debris of the Farraguts

It reads as follows:
UNKNOWN VESSELS DETECTED. SERVER PURGE FAILED. SHIP ASSETS LIQUIDATED. PAYLOAD DESTROYED. SHIP STATUS LOST.

I wish to share this news with the Galaxy before the federation tries to cover up what we've found.

Cmdr Vildu identified that there was an audio transmission from the antenna array when you are within 30m of the antenna.

A logistics and analysis team dispatched to the area catalogued the transmission

Here is Cmdr CrescentMage's captured audio
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...86/6008655b-074c-4641-8265-a1d05591ed58_1.mp3

The audio region from 0:23 to 0:31 has what looks like data and here is a small sample of the pattern found by Cmdr CrescentMage

Cmdr AdmlAdama noted that it seemed to be sped up Morse code and translated the message seen above.

This message is to let the galaxy know what happened. And to ensure that the Federation isn't able to suppress this important scientific discovery

This information has been supplied to Canonn Faction Radio in case something happens to us
https://mobile.twitter.com/canonnradio
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTK-ODA_nZYnEtmVY83MSLg

 

[LordZoltan]

You're absolutely right on this. Possible interpretations:

1) UA is of human origin (and LordZoltan is conspiring with Feds)
2) UA is Thargoid but they've learned blink code during first war, and they liked it...
3) UA is Thargoid, its transmission is not (?!)
4) Morse was deliberate from FD, not from Thargoids or humans
5) FD are all Thargoids
6) Michael Brookes is Cthulhu's heir
7) I am wrong
8) I am Thargoid
9) both

Ha! I'll wager at least 4 of those statements are true

 

[LordZoltan]

Canonn Science and Research has identified the remnants of what seems to be a classified federation transmission from the debris of the Farraguts

It reads as follows:
UNKNOWN VESSELS DETECTED. SERVER PURGE FAILED. SHIP ASSETS LIQUIDATED. PAYLOAD DESTROYED. SHIP STATUS LOST.

I wish to share this news with the Galaxy before the federation tries to cover up what we've found.

Cmdr Vildu identified that there was an audio transmissions from the antenna array here when you are within 30m of the antenna.
https://i.imgur.com/QsXaNIg.jpg

A logistics and analysis team dispatched to the area catalogued the transmission

Here is Cmdr CrescentMage captured audio
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...86/6008655b-074c-4641-8265-a1d05591ed58_1.mp3

The audio region from 0:23 to 0:31 has what looks like data and here is a small sample of the pattern found by Cmdr CrescentMage
https://i.imgur.com/YcYCyP5.jpg

Cmdr AdmlAdama noted that it seemed to be sped up Morse code and translated the message seen above.
https://i.imgur.com/Cosd0gy.jpg

This message is to let the galaxy know what happened. And to ensure that the Federation isn't able to suppress this important scientific discovery

This information has been supplied to Canonn Faction Radio in case something happens to us
https://mobile.twitter.com/canonnradio
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTK-ODA_nZYnEtmVY83MSLg

Very very nice work.

[fourthwall]
And once again the sound department deliver a Hollywood-level creation.

The artistry in this game astounds me sometimes.
[/fourthwall]

 

[rizal72]

Canonn Science and Research has identified the remnants of what seems to be a classified federation transmission from the debris of the Farraguts

It reads as follows:
UNKNOWN VESSELS DETECTED. SERVER PURGE FAILED. SHIP ASSETS LIQUIDATED. PAYLOAD DESTROYED. SHIP STATUS LOST.

I wish to share this news with the Galaxy before the federation tries to cover up what we've found.

Cmdr Vildu identified that there was an audio transmissions from the antenna array here when you are within 30m of the antenna.
https://i.imgur.com/QsXaNIg.jpg

A logistics and analysis team dispatched to the area catalogued the transmission

Here is Cmdr CrescentMage captured audio
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...86/6008655b-074c-4641-8265-a1d05591ed58_1.mp3

The audio region from 0:23 to 0:31 has what looks like data and here is a small sample of the pattern found by Cmdr CrescentMage
https://i.imgur.com/YcYCyP5.jpg

Cmdr AdmlAdama noted that it seemed to be sped up Morse code and translated the message seen above.
https://i.imgur.com/Cosd0gy.jpg

This message is to let the galaxy know what happened. And to ensure that the Federation isn't able to suppress this important scientific discovery

This information has been supplied to Canonn Faction Radio in case something happens to us
https://mobile.twitter.com/canonnradio
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTK-ODA_nZYnEtmVY83MSLg

Top work CMDRs!
It reminds me of those funny morsed ancient times...

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Sure, we discuss, politely!
And your blink code objection make absolutely sense. However, you know, it's a game, and how could FD create some alien language, that being alien by definition, could have been understood from us players? I agree that binary could have been a better choice then morse, but as you know, they used it later. They hired more people, could have time to develop better riddles, for us.
Perhaps the MORSE was just some kind of "temporary workaround/mistake": how could FD know from the beginning how smart we were?

PS
I made a couple edits to my previous post, perhaps you could read them....

Well if you consider MB's comment that the UAs use Morse for a reason then I think there are only two possibilities:
1) UAs were created by humans using some alien organic technology, origin unknown
2) UAs were created by aliens trying to communicate something to humans.

i don't think we yet have any evidence to prefer one, after almost two years they are still equally probable.

 

[Thatchinho]

Canonn Science and Research has identified the remnants of what seems to be a classified federation transmission from the debris of the Farraguts

It reads as follows:
UNKNOWN VESSELS DETECTED. SERVER PURGE FAILED. SHIP ASSETS LIQUIDATED. PAYLOAD DESTROYED. SHIP STATUS LOST.

I wish to share this news with the Galaxy before the federation tries to cover up what we've found.

Cmdr Vildu identified that there was an audio transmission from the antenna array when you are within 30m of the antenna.
https://i.imgur.com/QsXaNIg.jpg

A logistics and analysis team dispatched to the area catalogued the transmission

Here is Cmdr CrescentMage's captured audio
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...86/6008655b-074c-4641-8265-a1d05591ed58_1.mp3

The audio region from 0:23 to 0:31 has what looks like data and here is a small sample of the pattern found by Cmdr CrescentMage
https://i.imgur.com/YcYCyP5.jpg

Cmdr AdmlAdama noted that it seemed to be sped up Morse code and translated the message seen above.
https://i.imgur.com/Cosd0gy.jpg

This message is to let the galaxy know what happened. And to ensure that the Federation isn't able to suppress this important scientific discovery

This information has been supplied to Canonn Faction Radio in case something happens to us
https://mobile.twitter.com/canonnradio
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTK-ODA_nZYnEtmVY83MSLg

Nice work.

Anyone who's better at morse than me (i.e. pretty much anyone) want to take a look at this:

Not sure if this is the place for this, but I found a second signal at the HIP 17044 site...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-hKaYoI6zw

Around the 2 minute mark.

Is there anything to that signal that repeats every 5 minutes.

Again, sorry if this is the wrong place for this!

I make it:

TWA TSW TVIM 9 TKW Q OW KKIW KNI NSMW MA TSN MEA

I don't know morse though and some of it wasn't particularly clear so I'd imagine I've got some parts way off.