Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

[CMDR Alonso]

Hmmm... "A".... or... "C", then, based on your theory. Worth further investigations on 2-B.

From the video we get three clues:
- Grey Gas giant, with rings
- Grey-ish moon
- Deep canyons

Can we get the right angles on 2B with 2 and her rings lined up with canyons below? Going back in my Asp to find out!

We already know where the nest in the video is, it's permit locked. And honestly as far as we know there are no nests in the game right now, gotta wait at least until the next update.

I agree that 2-B should be investigated though.

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I'm at 2-B right now, going to hop around the planet for a while and see if there's anything of interest.

 

[KRONFROMGALVATRON]

It may be that all or some barnacle sites will end up this way.... seed banks

I like this hypothesis and think it's something we should consider. Perhaps at this point they are only mature enough to offer occasional refueling to flower ships but will grow into full size 'bases' or extraction/refinery sites for the goids. It would make sense logistically to be able to seed a self organizing biological extraction facility as preliminary work to colonizing a region of space.

 

[jojon]

...assuming that the convoy was carrying something of specific interest to thargoids...

Also assuming the Thargoids came to the we're-only-on-a-courier-mission-honestly-guv two capital ship convoy, looking for something...
I'm not ruling out the convoy having been an offensive (EDIT2: ...or maybe ambassadorial..) force that was hunting Thargoids, with Palin's analysis as a tool for finding them (EDIT: Movement patterns).
:7

 

[tomeagles]

I know we are all assuming the flower ships are just taking something from the barnacle, but what if they are also planting something or using them as an incubator of some kind? Looking at some screenhots from the teasers it does look as some have suggested that one of them has burst / hatched we already know they have a two week growth cycle if i remember right to become Ripe for Harvesting. We know that the Flower ships seem to be harvesting the barnacle but not the "by products" that hang off the spires and the MA's whats so special about them they dont want or MA's actually harmful to them so they dont collect them.

I just have a feeling there is way way more to the barnacles than just a food / fuel / resource site for the Thargoids, Major Scary tin foil hat moment "Maybe the floweships are just the babies and momma bear is underground and we are seeing the thargoid version of mom feededing the kids!"

heck anything is possible at the moment I am currently scouting round the edges of col 70 and checking systems with ammonia planets with moons close by or Gas Giants with Ammoniua Based life with Planets which kind of match up with the barnacle site properties.

 

[tomeagles]

Another thought I have a feeling that Maia etc are just the staging post / refueling post close to the bubble, and the actual base(s) we see in the trailers are further out because ED has said in a basically an off hand comment that they are in game already I dont think with the way he put it they need activating, maybe we wont get the story line leading us to them until 2.4 but they are there to be found now, and if thats the case I am sure someone would have stumbled on them hunting barnacles already, I think we need to look further out but planets / systems with the same properties as the ones we find barnacles in now.

 

[Squid Gumbo]

Maybe the Barnacle is both a mineral extractor/refinery AND an Atmospheric Processor. It's not very large, but maybe it grows as the atmosphere becomes more compatible with the Thargoid biology? The Barnacle is definitely an organic machine of some sort, and I could imagine it becoming larger as it does its work.

 

[CMDR ANCALAGON]

Question for the Cannon:

I am certain that this has been discussed at other points on varying levels, but is there any lore supporting (or more likely, gaps in lore that would be explained by) the idea that humans are extinct, either from the last war or died off in the generation ships, and that we are AI, created by the Guardians or someone else in the image of humans (of which we are unaware)?

It would explain an apparent gap in the mechanics where the "Holo-Me" that is deployed in an SLF or SRV is visible in the SRV/SLF via external cam, but the captain's chair in the mothership is empty. The gap being that, if the CMDR in the mothership were "real", would the CMDR not still be visible in the mothership?

 

[CMDR PlungedSphere34]

Question for the Cannon:

I am certain that this has been discussed at other points on varying levels, but is there any lore supporting (or more likely, gaps in lore that would be explained by) the idea that humans are extinct, either from the last war or died off in the generation ships, and that we are AI, created by the Guardians or someone else in the image of humans (of which we are unaware)?

It would explain an apparent gap in the mechanics where the "Holo-Me" that is deployed in an SLF or SRV is visible in the SRV/SLF via external cam, but the captain's chair in the mothership is empty. The gap being that, if the CMDR in the mothership were "real", would the CMDR not still be visible in the mothership?

We do physically get in the SRVs. Plus, us being AIs would be sort of wrong.

 

[LordZoltan]

Question for the Cannon:

I am certain that this has been discussed at other points on varying levels, but is there any lore supporting (or more likely, gaps in lore that would be explained by) the idea that humans are extinct, either from the last war or died off in the generation ships, and that we are AI, created by the Guardians or someone else in the image of humans (of which we are unaware)?

It would explain an apparent gap in the mechanics where the "Holo-Me" that is deployed in an SLF or SRV is visible in the SRV/SLF via external cam, but the captain's chair in the mothership is empty. The gap being that, if the CMDR in the mothership were "real", would the CMDR not still be visible in the mothership?

I can't think about this too long

But no, I think the timeline is pretty much continuous from the earlier days - and what CMDR PlungedSphere34 says above /\ /\ /\

 

[Virgile]

David Braben on Newsweek article :
“I’ve always been fascinated by carbon-ammonia chemistry because I think it should be just as possible to have life where you’ve got a temperature band that is roughly about 100 centigrade cooler. Between 70 and 100,” Braben told Newsweek. “There are a lot of interesting things to look at with a planet that has methane or ammonia chemistry."

 

[Dr Phibes]

Question : is the comms beacon left at the destroyed convoy site transmitting in any particular direction (ie towards where the convoy may have been heading), or is it just random?

 

[ExoForce]

Maybe the Barnacle is both a mineral extractor/refinery AND an Atmospheric Processor. It's not very large, but maybe it grows as the atmosphere becomes more compatible with the Thargoid biology? The Barnacle is definitely an organic machine of some sort, and I could imagine it becoming larger as it does its work.

What You see is cca 3% of full grown barnacle volume (IMHO and imagination only). I like Your theory. Rep.

 

[CMDR ANCALAGON]

We do physically get in the SRVs. Plus, us being AIs would be sort of wrong.

But we do not physically get into the SLF, which is explained as a telepresence thing, but again, the captain's seat in the mothership is vacant, and the ship is "unmanned", just as with the SRV. The only difference with the SLF and SRV is that we can instantly switch to and from the SLF and Mothership with no problem from as much as 30km distance away.

If we are physically in the SRV but not in the SLF, then why is the mother ship seat empty in both cases, and why is the ship unmanned as it is when in the SLF?

Obviously, this could simply be a gap in game design, but it is more interesting to consider that this is not the case and that there is something else going on.

So, within the lore, is there anything explicitly preventing this, and what gaps would be closed or things clarified if it were true?

 

[Volimar]

But we do not physically get into the SLF, which is explained as a telepresence thing, but again, the captain's seat in the mothership is vacant, and the ship is "unmanned", just as with the SRV. The only difference with the SLF and SRV is that we can instantly switch to and from the SLF and Mothership with no problem from as much as 30km distance away.

If we are physically in the SRV but not in the SLF, then why is the mother ship seat empty in both cases, and why is the ship unmanned as it is when in the SLF?

Obviously, this could simply be a gap in game design, but it is more interesting to consider that this is not the case and that there is something else going on.

So, within the lore, is there anything explicitly preventing this, and what gaps would be closed or things clarified if it were true?

We physically get in the SRV. There's a POI with a SRV and a transmission from a jilted lover who finds out that the guy in the SRV is cheating on her. So she just leaves him on the planet to die.

 

[Virgile]

You never see your character eating or going to the bathroom... Doesn't mean he is an AI or a ghost, it's just a game with it's own limitations...

 

[Squid Gumbo]

What You see is cca 3% of full grown barnacle volume (IMHO and imagination only). I like Your theory. Rep.

That's what I'm thinking as well, almost like an iceberg. Or a sarlacc

 

[AlexVII]

We do physically get in the SRVs. Plus, us being AIs would be sort of wrong.

And if the SRV is destroyed we either:

A)Die with it.
B)End telepresence session and we are back in our ship 30km above our SRV "death point".

(Spoiler: B happens)

And why us being the AIs is wrong? If the pilots in SLFs and SRVs are just telepresence holograms, why can't the same be said about pilots in ships? Is there any evidence that the holograms (we can chsnge them in Holo-Me) in the ships are humans? And Guardian's triangles in our ship's systems and on our holograms (the holograms are made of triangles) do cause some doubt.

 

[Dr Phibes]

And if the SRV is destroyed we either:

A)Die with it.
B)End telepresence session and we are back in our ship 30km above our SRV "death point".

(Spoiler: B happens)

And why us being the AIs is wrong? If the pilots in SLFs and SRVs are just telepresence holograms, why can't the same be said about pilots in ships? Is there any evidence that the holograms (we can chsnge them in Holo-Me) in the ships are humans? And Guardian's triangles in our ship's systems and on our holograms (the holograms are made of triangles) do cause some doubt.

Would a AI need a escape pod or oxygen back up? I don't think. So the pilots must be human.

 

[BulletTrev]

Are'nt we only telepresense in the 'Turret view' in SRV's

 

[CMDR PlungedSphere34]

And if the SRV is destroyed we either:

A)Die with it.
B)End telepresence session and we are back in our ship 30km above our SRV "death point".

(Spoiler: B happens)

And why us being the AIs is wrong? If the pilots in SLFs and SRVs are just telepresence holograms, why can't the same be said about pilots in ships? Is there any evidence that the holograms (we can chsnge them in Holo-Me) in the ships are humans? And Guardian's triangles in our ship's systems and on our holograms (the holograms are made of triangles) do cause some doubt.

I reckon that when my SRV goes boom, while I am looking at the rebuy screen, my ship flies down and picks me in an escape pod up.