Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Good i also spent some time in alioth and none of the dockable bases etc had any herald articles about thim, but will continue the search at a laterpoint

Nice. I checked back at the crater on LHS 2088 B 1 but there was no Python stationed there anymore. Must not have been a persistent.

I don't know what to do now. Poking around for Corsen on random moons seems desperate and not likely to yield success. I think I'm headed out to the California nebula. Never been there, maybe my first trip will be special :)
 
Nice. I checked back at the crater on LHS 2088 B 1 but there was no Python stationed there anymore. Must not have been a persistent.

I don't know what to do now. Poking around for Corsen on random moons seems desperate and not likely to yield success. I think I'm headed out to the California nebula. Never been there, maybe my first trip will be special :)

I found that the wasp - 33 system is generating a massive amount of Unknown artifacts pretty consistantly - ive done some quick checking of some landables, nothing of note really ( the insect reference as wasps are hive like insects, and of course the thargoids are a hive mind) my searches mostly focus on space and new signal sources that may contain thargoid ships of any sort as they havent been seen, they may not be ingame but it is a good source of UAs to start with.

The wasp-11 system is 80ly from maia give or take. the names of system sometimes have interesting things. But the search goes on
 
Interesting, I might head out there instead.

When I was leaving LHS 2088 there was a blue "Mission status" something or other beacon that I picked up as my FSD locked in. I have no missions out there. I don't need an update. I'm hoping it's something cluelike. I turned around as soon as I saw the next system's star and now I'm in SC trying to get back to B 1. I hope I can find it again.

UPDATE:

It was just "MISSION: TRADING BEACON [THREAT 1]"

bah...
 
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Interesting, I might head out there instead.

When I was leaving LHS 2088 there was a blue "Mission status" something or other beacon that I picked up as my FSD locked in. I have no missions out there. I don't need an update. I'm hoping it's something cluelike. I turned around as soon as I saw the next system's star and now I'm in SC trying to get back to B 1. I hope I can find it again.


Yeah someone on my discord sent me a pm telling me i should check out Wasp 33 as a point of rapid UA spawning, at the same time though there was a water based gas giant that seems to be spaawning outside of the UA anamoly threat 4 a lot of distress call threat 3 ( they arent thargoids) but theres a couple of vultures in there that can be a combat challange (nothing on cargo scan stood out though)
 
Yeah im surprised it is a client side thing update wise and not a server side thing, so are they loading a copy of stellar forge onto each of our systems perhaps ?

Yes, the "stellar forge" is just an algorithm and probably a relatively small amount of data that defines how the galaxy should be generated. It would be a fairly small piece of the system overall (the FE2/FFE version was only a few hundred lines of code). There is additional data to define the hand-coded systems and to place the systems that come from real-world catalogues. It's that additional data that needs to be updated to add a station to a system and while there is no reason that couldn't be sent from the server each time (at least updates), they apparently don't do that yet. The situation is different for surface bases: they do seem to be addable at any time which implies that base data is fetched from the server.
 
Yes, the "stellar forge" is just an algorithm and probably a relatively small amount of data that defines how the galaxy should be generated. It would be a fairly small piece of the system overall (the FE2/FFE version was only a few hundred lines of code). There is additional data to define the hand-coded systems and to place the systems that come from real-world catalogues. It's that additional data that needs to be updated to add a station to a system and while there is no reason that couldn't be sent from the server each time (at least updates), they apparently don't do that yet. The situation is different for surface bases: they do seem to be addable at any time which implies that base data is fetched from the server.

i remember when the ground bases were being proposed a dev comment that they had an additional engine seperate from stellar forge for planets that enabled them to be added more quickly it could be added at a weekly update for example .... without a patch, which would indicate they are server side perhaps, im not sure it is a bit confusing
 
Courtesy of the above: http://imgur.com/a/3IQfW

Medical Research Base MIR-14
Col 285 Sector FL-X1 B7-3
Planet A 2 A: -59.9,-142.58

The speakers at the site are declaring: "This site has been designated a no-go area. Do not attempt to approach this facility."

Another interesting planet base post found, thanks for sharing.

I have just visited this Medical Research Base and can confirm that it too has a telescope identical with the one seen at 'Abandoned Research Facility 5592'.

We had already discounted the first telescope as being a clue to pointing to a particular star or system due to the reported rotation of the stars found there in the sky over time and further finds of telescopes were always going to suggest the first one wasn't unique and the use of the same models.

Here are two images of the telescopes for comparison, the first from 5592 and the second from this Medical Research Base.

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Another interesting planet base post thanks for sharing.

I have just visited this Medical Research Base and can confirm that it too has a telescope identical with the one seen at 'Abandoned Research Facility 5592'.

We had already discounted the first telescope as being a clue to pointing to a particular star or system due to the rotation of the stars found there in the sky over time and further finds of telescopes were always going to suggest the first one wasn't unique and the use of the same models.

Here are two images of the telescopes for comparison, the first from 5592 and the second from this Medical Research Base.


telescopes just could be another sensor tool in the 32nd century, but if an alignment can be made it offers additional clues
 
So earlier today I think I discovered yet another peculiarity about the ruins site at SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102. I'm pretty sure that the R-R line is actually marked on the grounds of the ruins.

I've modeled the RR line in my 3D cad coordinate finder and the line is offset from SOL by about 14 lys, this holds accurately against what other people have calculated it to be in the past:

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Now at the ruins themselves I previously suspected that the thick line on the ground running from the large landing pad (LPA) to under the peak of Pyramid B (PB) was possibly meant to be the RR line, but according to my cad model that doesn't line up. However, there is another line, a smaller more faint line, that runs from just a bit below "center" of LPA (I call center of LPA as the intersection of the three black structures on the pad's edges) and then runs under the bottom left corner of Pyramid B:

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This line is surprisingly accurate to the actual location of the RR line! It is also offset from the center of LPA, which I think represents SOL, and by what my cad model measures it's offset by 15m in the perpendicular, which is very close to that 14 ly offset up above.

The angle gap is accurate too. The RR line is about 10° off from the actual vector from SOL to the center of the Heart & Soul Nebula gap. This faint line at the ruins is offset from the LPA center to PB peak vector by 10°, and according to my 3D model the LPA/PB vector points straight to the Heart & Soul Nebula.

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This H&S vector, and thus the LPA/PB vector, also point straight to the four beacons in the EAFOTS region that the current CG unveiled.

These ruins continue to amaze me.
 
So earlier today I think I discovered yet another peculiarity about the ruins site at SYNUEFE XR-H D11-102. I'm pretty sure that the R-R line is actually marked on the grounds of the ruins.

I've modeled the RR line in my 3D cad coordinate finder and the line is offset from SOL by about 14 lys, this holds accurately against what other people have calculated it to be in the past:


Now at the ruins themselves I previously suspected that the thick line on the ground running from the large landing pad (LPA) to under the peak of Pyramid B (PB) was possibly meant to be the RR line, but according to my cad model that doesn't line up. However, there is another line, a smaller more faint line, that runs from just a bit below "center" of LPA (I call center of LPA as the intersection of the three black structures on the pad's edges) and then runs under the bottom left corner of Pyramid B:


This line is surprisingly accurate to the actual location of the RR line! It is also offset from the center of LPA, which I think represents SOL, and by what my cad model measures it's offset by 15m in the perpendicular, which is very close to that 14 ly offset up above.

The angle gap is accurate too. The RR line is about 10° off from the actual vector from SOL to the center of the Heart & Soul Nebula gap. This faint line at the ruins is offset from the LPA center to PB peak vector by 10°, and according to my 3D model the LPA/PB vector points straight to the Heart & Soul Nebula.


This H&S vector, and thus the LPA/PB vector, also point straight to the four beacons in the EAFOTS region that the current CG unveiled.

These ruins continue to amaze me.

Are there any points on youre map that relate to areas that arent being actively explored at the moment ?

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Quick lazy question: is there any Barnacle still intact? From the spreadsheets it seems they are now all destroyed. Can you confirm?

have any new ones recently been found ? im sure there are still undiscovered ones out there, that said meta alloys can be gathered from "convoy beacons" in some systems close to maia , they have a federation corvette that has 5 of them, if u can take him down quick enough and the escorts ( im thinking wing) and resetting the beacon site. That is a farmable source currently
 
Quick lazy question: is there any Barnacle still intact? From the spreadsheets it seems they are now all destroyed. Can you confirm?

Pleiades sector JC-U B3-2 1 (lat. -22.4192, lon. -85.0385), had to take down 4 skimmers with the SRV, but it's a piece of cake.​I've been there 3 days ago, so it's probably still intact.
 
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Pleiades sector JC-U B3-2 1 (lat. -22.4192, lon. -85.0385), had to take down 4 skimmers with the SRV, but it's a piece of cake.​I've been there 3 days ago, so it's probably still intact.

Convoy Beacon around maia (30ly and less) sites have them drop out of federal corvettes
 
Courtesy of the above: http://imgur.com/a/3IQfW

Medical Research Base MIR-14
Col 285 Sector FL-X1 B7-3
Planet A 2 A: -59.9,-142.58

The speakers at the site are declaring: "This site has been designated a no-go area. Do not attempt to approach this facility."

http://i.imgur.com/jWXbyE4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/PXLJDyi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qktGglx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2nR1V8V.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8rIyRDd.jpg

Sounds like the plot line from "Serenity" to me... Origin of "The Reavers".
 
There is certainly stuff that is loaded from the server and that needs to be loaded every time you enter a system, for example the exploration status. But the structure of the galaxy itself is generated client-side. As I said, the fact that a client patch is required to change the structure of the galaxy proves this.

I disagree.

The galaxies procedural meta data can be housed remotely on Fdev servers, while the visual elements are local client, there is obviously a client /server relationship which needs patching at both ends for any major changes.
Im willing to bet Fdev remote house the procedural data. Prevents Data mining the galaxy for secrets and is a great DRM.

But to the point.

You're a talking head and im a talking head.

Neither of us KNOW... Only Fdev know.
 
Another interesting planet base post found, thanks for sharing.

I have just visited this Medical Research Base and can confirm that it too has a telescope identical with the one seen at 'Abandoned Research Facility 5592'.

We had already discounted the first telescope as being a clue to pointing to a particular star or system due to the reported rotation of the stars found there in the sky over time and further finds of telescopes were always going to suggest the first one wasn't unique and the use of the same models.
Agree it is identical to the 5592 facility, even the damage on the roof. Also I don't see why this "medical" facility would even need a telescope. Since its the only thing that actually points up on either base, it is probably a narrow band communications device, sometimes also known as a greeble.
 
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